I realize that almost no one gives a shit about my school and that's fine...but our game yesterday was by the most pathetic display of officials officiating I have ever seen....this isn't even about my school, this is about refs CLEARLY being on the take and yesterday they were just too obvious and if you want proof....here's a collection of the calls made at yesterdays game: Keep in mind some of these refs will probably be officiating in the Tournament

2/17/2008 9:23:00 PM

vidoe's too long, summarize

2/17/2008 9:27:40 PM

the first stanford block was a block only..sounds like a bit whining, there were about 2-3 bad calls that game, just the one of them was in the most crucial time of the game

2/17/2008 9:28:07 PM

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"I realize that almost no one gives a shit about my school "

glad we were able to get that out of the way

2/17/2008 9:29:42 PM

the entire city of Tucson doesn't give a shit about Kevin Oneil and his bitch ass Wildcrap team



sweeeep

2/17/2008 9:36:44 PM

That 10 minute video is pretty much all video of the refs not calling OBVIOUS fouls on Stanford and calling BULLSHIT fouls on us.

Worse is that they weren't even REMOTELY consistent from one half to the next, like night and day.

Whatever, you guys don't care about the integrity of college basketball I understand. I just hope these guys are officiating any of NCSUs games.

2/17/2008 9:36:58 PM

ACC refs are no better

[Edited on February 17, 2008 at 9:40 PM. Reason : i could make a 10 minute video from just about every ACC game]

2/17/2008 9:40:10 PM

I just have to say as an intramural basketball referee that basketball is by far the hardest sport to call well. There WILL be multiple bad calls each game. It's impossible to call a perfect game. The best you can hope to do is call it consistently for each side.

2/17/2008 9:42:27 PM

well they were blatant yesterday...and it was ALWAYS against us.

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2/17/2008 9:44:29 PM

calls are always bad against the teams that lose, blah blah blah

2/17/2008 9:48:29 PM

even the announcers couldn't believe how awful the officiating was.

Sometimes it REALLY IS the officials....This is one of those times.

2/17/2008 9:56:47 PM

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"calls are always bad against the teams that lose, blah blah blah"

I can't even begin to explain to you how true this is.

2/17/2008 9:57:59 PM

did you guys watch the video? Cause there is 10 minutes of bad calls....Horrible calls. I actually would like someone to watch and explain to me how this was 'fair' by any stretch of the imagination because I've been FUMING about this for a day now and I'd love to let it go.

2/17/2008 10:01:26 PM

Yea, especially that Bob Knight guy, he complains about officiating, and how overweight they are. What a loser, he and his 3 national titles and owner of the last undefeated team. That Phil Jackson guy in the NBA has been fined a few times for complaining about officiating, I don't htink he won anything either, as a player or as a coach.

[Edited on February 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM. Reason : .]

2/17/2008 10:01:40 PM

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"That 10 minute video is pretty much all video of the refs not calling OBVIOUS fouls on Stanford and calling BULLSHIT fouls on us. Worse is that they weren't even REMOTELY consistent from one half to the next, like night and day. Whatever, you guys don't care about the integrity of college basketball I understand. I just hope these guys are officiating any of NCSUs games."

there were only mebbe 2-3 bad calls, not to metion that the video didnt show the bad calls that went for arizona, i watched the game too and i do not like either team

2/17/2008 10:01:42 PM

Bad calls happen. Until the invent robots that can do a better job than us it's just going to be a part of the game.

2/17/2008 10:10:06 PM

The worst call was coming to an ACC school's message board not named d00k to bitch about it. I don't feel bad for you.

[Edited on February 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM. Reason : of course d00k was just the victim of some good officiating tonight w00t. ]

2/17/2008 10:22:56 PM

listen motherfuckers, have some fucking respect for a fellow TWWer seeing as how I give you that respect.

Do you really just use the internet to argue and talk shit to anyone and everyone who will listen? Way to give ME shit....a person who doesn't go to NCSU and yet ALWAYS supports them when they play.

2/17/2008 10:28:38 PM

oh shit, you guys done pissed her off

trust me, this is not a pretty sight

2/17/2008 10:31:13 PM

Nobody is saying fuck Arizona, we're saying we don't feel bad for you because this shit happens all the time over here in ACC land. Replace Stanford with d00k and we wouldnt know the difference.

2/17/2008 10:31:20 PM

i watched the video. complete horseshit especially the play hill fouled out on. if the same thing happened in our game wednesday there would be at least 10 threads about it.

2/17/2008 11:58:51 PM

you're a stupid cunt

lock this shit

2/18/2008 12:03:02 AM

I stopped watching after the first "bad call" was a clean block by stanford...

2/18/2008 12:14:23 AM

This is an NC State message board!

2/18/2008 12:17:27 AM

seriously. nothing will EVER compare to the technical foul called on our waterboy in the ACC tourney

2/18/2008 12:26:24 AM

I didn't put that highlight reel together and to be honest with you, the first few minutes and in fact the first half was actually officiated quite well with the refs allowing us to play. However, the second half, AS HOWARD EVEN HAS NOTED, is utter and complete bullshit

2/18/2008 2:16:35 AM

you are using Howard of all people to back you up?

LOOK PEOPLE, EARL AGREES WITH ME, I AM RIGHT.

2/18/2008 2:17:33 AM

I'm not sure about the whole game but outcome was pretty much decided on a bad call, like that georgetown garbage so it is kind of an issue

2/18/2008 2:21:30 AM

whatev. Every ACC game is like that. Fuck off

2/18/2008 2:29:21 AM

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"calls are always bad against the teams that lose"

correlation?

2/18/2008 2:31:04 AM

For fucks sake.....I'm simply pointing out that a person, who has NO CONNECTION to either team, can be objective about something. Clearly the majority of you didn't watch the video and that's fine, but don't go making comments about it like you have. Jesus Christ I'm so fucking over you people.

2/18/2008 3:36:00 AM

i fastforwarded to the end and yeah the last call was silly.

but the thread title is equally silly.

2/18/2008 3:37:21 AM

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"the first stanford block was a block only..sounds like a bit whining, there were about 2-3 bad calls that game, just the one of them was in the most crucial time of the game "

2/18/2008 6:11:21 AM

hahaha


this thread delivers

2/18/2008 8:12:55 AM

I hope you didn't take my comments as insulting. I was simply trying to add my $.02 (lol) based on my experience as a basketball referee. It's an extremely hard sport to call even at the level I do it at so it's kind of hard for me to get really mad if they call a bad game in college or the NBA. Even if it's a horrible game. Part of the reason the refs have to look like dickheads too is just because if they lose any bit of confidence in the calls they make they're going to lose control of the game and then they have to start dishing out technicals which is going to have even more impact on the game. It happens and it will continue to happen. The thing is, when there's a bad game, it's usually going to be fairly even with the bad calls so hopefully that evens it out a bit, but the team that remembers the bad calls will always be the team that loses.

Refs hardly ever win or lose the game for a team. It's usually just a crutch for the loser to use as an excuse. And I really hope you don't take my comments as insulting (since I've already declared I think you're a pretty cool broad).

2/18/2008 8:57:20 AM

basketball is a tough sport to officiate. So many of the calls or no-calls are subjective while football and baseball are generall all objective calls that are based on eye sight. Basketball calls like fouls (was there contact? enough to call or incidental? did the defender beat him to the spot?), charging and even palming violations are all "decisions" that refs have to make.

calling a basketball game would be like calling a jumpball situation to randy moss (pass interference) every second of ever play

2/18/2008 9:02:40 AM

except there's like 3 different jumpballs situations you have to be looking for at the same time.

2/18/2008 9:39:42 AM

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"the entire city of Tucson doesn't give a shit about Kevin Oneil and his bitch ass Wildcrap team sweeeep"

Give Tucson back to Mexico!!!11!

2/18/2008 10:31:59 AM

Herb runs this shit*

He gets all the calls... mostly beacuse Kevin O'Neill is bitchmade and turns really weird colors on the sidelines.

* college basketball in the state of Arizona

3/3/2008 5:06:44 PM

Kevin O'Neill hahahahahhha


that fucking suck ass, I dont even know how he is still around, SOOOOO boring to watch his games... you know you are bad when you get fired from Tennessee amirite

3/3/2008 5:15:17 PM

bwahahaha, I thought it was my TV... That man's face turns a deeper red than any red I have ever seen.

3/3/2008 5:16:45 PM

lol, i like how m2c' gets all pissed off that people gave her shit in this thread. I can't make a single post about UConn and Jaybee about UT without getting trolled from like twenty difference directions...

3/3/2008 5:22:41 PM

3/3/2008 5:29:09 PM

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"Refs hardly ever win or lose the game for a team."

well Mr. Ref, this is blatantly incorrect. You would know this if you have watched a couple of fucking ACC games this year.

I'm not saying that they intentionally (that's something that NOBODY will EVER find out)are calling the games in one teams favor, but some of their bad calls have won and lost games for several teams this year.

[Edited on March 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2008 5:30:16 PM

btttt someone post the Duke outta bounds at the Bellmont game....

3/23/2008 11:57:15 AM

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"I can't make a single post about UConn and Jaybee about UT without getting trolled from like twenty difference directions..."

to be fair, jaybee posting about UT is probably the most obnoxious thing in ST.

3/23/2008 12:01:48 PM

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u233/terpbe2/paulusanim.gif?t=1206133417

The Refs have been bad this tournament. The Xavier/Georgia game was awful. To be fair, basketball is probably one of the toughest sports to call as an official...but it's not like the game has changed that much within the last 5 years.

3/23/2008 12:04:59 PM

^^ fuck you... not at all. I'm logical, objective, reasonable, if you find that annoying you are a shitty sports fan. Homerism is the obnoxious shit

3/23/2008 1:10:26 PM

come on jaybee, let's not do this.

you know what you are.

3/23/2008 1:24:30 PM

you've got to set them up.

3/23/2008 1:25:07 PM