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"ORLANDO, Fla. (AP)—An animal rights group wants the PGA Tour to take action against player Tripp Isenhour, facing charges for hitting a hawk with a golf shot because it was making noise as he videotaped a TV show."

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"Isenhour was charged Wednesday with cruelty to animals and killing a migratory bird, misdemeanors that carry a maximum penalty of 14 months in jail and $1,500 in fines."

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"The 39-year-old player, whose real name is John Henry Isenhour III, became angry while filming “Shoot Like A Pro” on Dec. 12 at the Grand Cypress Golf Club—his home course—when a squawking red-shouldered hawk forced another take."

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"He got in his golf cart and drove closer to the bird, then 300 yards away, and starting hitting balls at it. The bird didn’t move and Isenhour gave up and drove away. Isenhour started again when the hawk moved within about 75 yards, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission officer Brian Baine indicated in a report. Isenhour allegedly said, “I’ll get him now,” and aimed for the hawk. “About the sixth ball came very near the bird’s head, and (Isenhour) was very excited that it was so close,” Baine wrote. A few shots later, witnesses said he hit the hawk. The bird, protected as a migratory species, fell to the ground bleeding from both nostrils."

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ap-golfer-birdkilled&prov=ap&type=lgns

I'd be happy to see this bastard in a federal "Pound you in the ass" prison but this sick fuck will likely have the charges dropped. "Un-fucking-believable"

3/7/2008 12:18:12 AM

oh give me a fucking break


its a fucking bird




how bout a punishment that does some good like a donation to some bird foundation or community service doing some good....america already has the most people in prison of any country anyways

[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 12:29 AM. Reason : .]

3/7/2008 12:21:29 AM

The 1500 in fines is nothing to him. They guy is a giant douche though trying to kill a bird because it made him do another take.

I do think though the PGA should take action against him, because it just makes all golfers look bad.

3/7/2008 12:38:46 AM

Let the head of PETA get a five or six televised whacks at him with the golf club.

That'd be justice.

3/7/2008 12:40:27 AM

Look, had Pinchy McGolfswing hit the hawk on a shot gone astray or while it was flying I would have said a prayer for the bird and let it be. But instead this asshat maliciously tracked down and murdered this creature merely because it was bothering him. Is there not something inherently disturbing about that kind of behavior?

3/7/2008 12:44:07 AM

Of course there is.

A selfish, unabated murdering instinct born out of a disregard for life.

Like I said.

Club the fucker.

3/7/2008 12:48:35 AM

this will probably be the only time i'll ever say this, but DNL said something that i agree with

3/7/2008 2:45:12 AM

Yeah 1500 dollars isn't shit, and you know he isn't going to jail. He will probably be punished more by the PGA along with heafty donations he will have to make now to endangered birds.

Random question why did the bird not move his ass after a ton of tries.

[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 3:02 AM. Reason : .]

3/7/2008 2:59:49 AM

$1500 isn't shit to him, but a couple years in prison would do the trick. The guy's a son of a bitch. Throw the book at him. Throw more than the book at him, to be frank.

3/7/2008 3:03:16 AM

Might I humbly suggest a golf club, GrumpyGOP?

3/7/2008 3:38:36 AM

The last time that I played golf I killed a duck.

My secret is safe with TWW.

3/7/2008 4:01:00 AM

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"$1500 isn't shit to him, but a couple years in prison would do the trick. The guy's a son of a bitch. Throw the book at him. Throw more than the book at him, to be frank."

why?

have we started throwing the proverbial "book" at people that have harmed other people?

3/7/2008 5:47:44 AM

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"But instead this asshat maliciously tracked down and murdered this creature merely because it was bothering him"

jesus christ, get some perspective dude.

you do realize that here, in North Carolina, nay, in this very town, people load up their trucks with guns and bows every weekend and go out and kill all sorts of animals for fun, right?

3/7/2008 8:43:03 AM

You do realize that golf is not in any sort of way related to hunting, right?

You do realize the animal he killed was protected, right?

3/7/2008 8:46:34 AM

if you want to kill a bird (which I, personally, don't want to - i've never been hunting and don't ever plan to), if you do it with a golf ball or a bullet, the end result is the same.

Furthermore, did he or anyone think he actually had a chance of hitting this bird in the head with a golf ball from 75yds with only 7 or 8 shots? Jesus - give this man an award! That's a nice drive!

as far as it being protected, you have to look at the intent. Did he know it was protected? Would he have acted the same if he knew it was?

bottom line is this: the guy sounds like a jerk anyway. you really would have to be to try to kill any animal because it's bothering you during a TV shoot. What he did was wrong, yes. But seriously - get some perspective, people. Give him a fine or whatever. But putting him in pound-me-in-the-ass prison? come on

3/7/2008 9:42:01 AM

3/7/2008 9:58:16 AM

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"I'd be happy to see this bastard in a federal "Pound you in the ass" prison"

PRISON?! really... really..? for killing a bird?

3/7/2008 10:07:20 AM

Lighten up people ... its a bird.

Who would really think that hitting a bird from 75 yards away would actually kill the animal ...

At best I would hope to hit it in the rear and scare it off ... which is what he was probably trying to do.

Its not like he took his club to it and teed off on his beak or something.


You People!!!

3/7/2008 10:15:54 AM

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"the guy sounds like a jerk anyway. you really would have to be to try to kill any animal because it's bothering you during a TV shoot. What he did was wrong, yes. But seriously - get some perspective, people. Give him a fine or whatever. But putting him in pound-me-in-the-ass prison? come on"

3/7/2008 10:32:20 AM

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"Furthermore, did he or anyone think he actually had a chance of hitting this bird in the head with a golf ball from 75yds with only 7 or 8 shots? Jesus - give this man an award! That's a nice drive!"

fyi thats not a drive (those tend to go 300yds+ for those guys), but still a tough shot

the guy is obviously an asshole, and deserves to be punished...financially plus community service.
it'd be funny if he had to do it with one of these bird protection non-profits...haha that would be funny/uncomfortable. in fact thats a great idea for a tv show, show asshats like him having to do community service with people they hate and who hate him.

but prison?? come on now.

3/7/2008 10:52:22 AM

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"(Isenhour) was very excited that it was so close"

Well he was probably pretty happy to get a birdie.

3/7/2008 11:07:27 AM

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"I do think though the PGA should take action against him, because it just makes all golfers look bad."

Are you kidding? He hit a bird with a golf shot. It really speaks the the level of talent that these guys have attained.

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"Let the head of PETA get a five or six televised whacks at him with the golf club. That'd be justice."

No it wouldn't. The PETA guy would have to be at 75 yards and hit him with a golf shot.

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"maliciously tracked down and murdered"

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"The bird didn’t move and Isenhour gave up and drove away. Isenhour started again when the hawk moved within about 75 yards"

Don't get me wrong. This guy is a jerk, but you guys calling for his death and rape are far worse than this guy.

Guy gets annoyed with a bird making noise. Guy kills bird.
People want guy dead or raped because they are annoyed that he killed a bird.

3/7/2008 11:08:17 AM

A. HockeyRoman is coming off as some kind of fucking psychopath...put somebody in pound me in the ass prison because they killed a bird? Get your fucking head out of your ass and get your priorities straight

B. What a dumb bird, no wonder its protected. Wouldn't you exect it to fly off when the sixth ball came "very near the bird's head"?

C. It was an impressive shot. I don't really play golf, but hitting a target that size from 75 yards is pretty damn impressive

D. It would've been a lot more ironic if the 'birdie' was an 'eagle' or 'albatross'

E. Sports Talk?

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"Let the head of PETA get a five or six televised whacks at him with the golf club. That'd be justice."

No way in hell the head of PETA could hit somebody with a golf shot from 75 yards IMO

3/7/2008 11:19:54 AM

I saw we give the man an accuracy award and we give the bird a Darwin award. I should've moved.

3/7/2008 12:00:16 PM

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"Well he was probably pretty happy to get a birdie."

ba dump bump CRASH

3/7/2008 12:09:26 PM

^^ You are retarded sir.

[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 12:10 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/7/2008 12:10:01 PM

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"No way in hell the head of PETA could hit somebody with a golf shot from 75 yards IMO"

i thought the same thing

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"Well he was probably pretty happy to get a birdie."

haha

3/7/2008 12:12:02 PM

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"'Un-fucking-believable'"

BTW, HockeyRoman, this did not go unnoticed. Was it an homage?

Three things:

1. The golfer shouldn't have killed the bird--and I'm sure he'll pay a price for it.

2. FTW:



3. Runner-up:

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"Well he was probably pretty happy to get a birdie."

[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2008 12:21:47 PM

Nobody has said it but Isenhour is from Salisbury, NC. I played junior golf against his kid.....

3/7/2008 12:56:22 PM

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"this will probably be the only time i'll ever say this, but DNL said something that i agree with"

3/7/2008 1:08:13 PM

you seriously prayed for a bird?

3/7/2008 1:44:48 PM

I love mock moral outrage.

The guy is not being punished for killing a bird. He's being punished for killing a protected bird. If he had killed a loud rooster, nothing would have happened.

What's the moral difference between killing a bird because it's annoying and killing a bird because it tastes good? None I can see. Neither are "necessary" (you won't die if you don't eat chicken, and it wouldn't kill him to live with the bird squaking). They are both cases of killing defenseless creatures for the sole purpose of marginally improving your day.

Now that isn't to say I support the golfer. He sounds like a prick who should get his ass beat. But it just grinds my gears when people say shit with a totally lack of regard for philosophical consistancy. For example, GrumpyGOP sure as fuck has eaten a fried chicken a couple times in his life.

Ditch the hair shirts and moral indignation people.

3/7/2008 2:04:54 PM

Randy Johnson should be in prison for life

and Fabio's face should also be locked up in pound-me-in-the-ass prison

3/7/2008 2:07:07 PM

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"For example, GrumpyGOP sure as fuck has eaten a fried chicken a couple times in his life. "

you just contradicted yourself. he hasn't eaten Baked California Condor, or a Bald Eagle Salad Sandwich.

whats illegal is killing an endangered and protected raptor. whats immoral is doing it for "fun"

the guy should be punished to the extent of the law.





[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2008 2:15:32 PM

birds have constitutional rights too

3/7/2008 2:18:21 PM

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"dont be a jackass. they guy should be punished to the extent of the law. "

fine, but Socks' point about "mock moral outrage" stands.

Of all the fucked up, unethical, immoral SHIT that happens in the world today and even in our own back yards, you guys are getting your panties in a wad over a rich golfer who killed a bird and an angry solider who killed a dog?

once again, GET SOME FUCKING PERSPECTIVE

3/7/2008 2:21:11 PM

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"birds have constitutional rights too"

do they, dumbass? tell me where.

do you understand the difference between the US Constitution, and the United States Code?

no?

well, here, maybe you can grasp this: http://www.wikipedia.org it might be a little too advanced for you, but it's the simplest site I'm aware of.




[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2008 2:22:35 PM

^ That isn't a contradiction, that's you missing the point. Are you saying the act would have been morally justified if he had eaten the bird? I don't see how. When you go to KFC it isn't because you can't eat fresh vegitables, it's because you have "fun" feasting on the dead flesh of birds. IOW: if you eat fried chicken or any other meat, you support their killing for no other purpose than it brings you pleasure.

You are not innocent, Joe.

3/7/2008 2:23:05 PM

come on, man. youre not that dense are you? or do you think I am?

no one is suggesting that its okay to eat a fucking endangered species.

and there's nothing necessarily immoral about eating animals for sustenance, no matter how you define "sustenance". vegans can rant and rave all they want, but human beings are omnivores. we are built to eat flesh, although not required. in any event, it takes far more effort and cost in our society to maintain a healthy lifestyle on a vegetarian or vegan diet.

the immorality of eating meat is a matter of opinion.

the immorality of killing for pleasure is far more clear.

the ILLEGALITY of killing an endangered species is abundantly clear.






[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:29 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2008 2:27:09 PM

^ But you are still missing the point. If you have ever eaten an animal because it tasted good (don't lie), then you have directly supported the killing of living creatures for pleasure. PERIOD.

If you want to condemn this golfer, you will have to come up with a different argument that excludes yourself.

Of course, I doubt you care that much. You will probably impotently insist that killing an animal for fun is different when you're eating it. Eventually you'll give up trying to think of a moral solution and just live your life like before. That's why I called this mock outrage. If anyone actually gave a shit about animals, they would their lives differently. But they don't. *shrug*

[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ``]

3/7/2008 2:39:28 PM

all one has to do is read this thread to see how pussified america has become

fucking pathetic

OH NO HE ACCIDENTALLY KILLED A BIRD

HE DESERVES TO BE RAPED IN PRISON

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"do they, dumbass? tell me where. do you understand the difference between the US Constitution, and the United States Code?"

your reply suggests you actually thought that i thought birds had constitutional rights......

3/7/2008 2:44:22 PM

accidently?

3/7/2008 2:45:14 PM

accidentally killed, not accidentally hit

btw ITS A FUCKING BIRD

some of you people care more about birds and puppies than people

3/7/2008 2:45:25 PM

sorry, Socks``. i dont buy into your convoluted vegetarian logic.

people eat to survive. not for "fun". i eat because i'm hungry.

when i make a choice to eat chicken, it's because it is nutritious, affordable, and satisfies my physical hunger.

i also have reason to believe the chicken i eat is bred, raised, and eventually slaughtered in a humane fashion. to that end, i try to buy cage free organic chicken when possible. for the record, I never eat at KFC.

but that doesnt make me more moral than people who eat at KFC, or who buy generic supermarket chicken.

its just the choice that I make for my own reasons.

and youre not more moral than me or other meat-eaters, because you're in here whining about how we should all be vegetarian.

3/7/2008 2:47:51 PM

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[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ``]

3/7/2008 2:48:47 PM

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"your reply suggests you actually thought that i thought birds had constitutional right"

hardly. i just think that you're a garden-variety idiot, who's long since run out of clever ways to troll these threads.

3/7/2008 2:49:29 PM

i've been trying to find information on this particular bird, the red-shouldered hawk, and as far as I can tell, it is not endangered. It is "protected as a migratory bird", which from what I can find simply means that since it's migratory (unlike turkeys or quail or other game-bird) it is thereby protected from hunting and killing. It does not necessarily mean that the numbers are dwindling and Isenhour has killed off one of a few remaining breeding birds or something.

So once again people - grow the fuck up and get some perspective.

[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2008 2:50:00 PM

Joe,

So you don't eat meat because you like it? And you only eat meat because you can't afford any other options?

Is that what you are saying?

3/7/2008 2:50:43 PM

this thread is full of so many pussy ass bitches

you guys are so unbelievably ridiculous i cant even believe that these are your real opinions

i will NEVER EVER be able to take anything hockeyroman says seriously again

i've NEVER made a thread with anything this remotely insane as the initial posts' opinion

edit

and i could care less if anyone is a vegetarian or not, thats not my problem

my problem is how bad some of you are overreacting to this...i wonder how you'd fare if you were actually put in a bad situation

3/7/2008 2:52:34 PM

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"Joe, So you don't eat meat because you like it? And you only eat meat because you can't afford any other options? Is that what you are saying?"

of course not

i like meat. i like the taste of it. but i don't believe it is immoral to eat meat, because it sustains us.

if you think it is, then that's your opinion.

the fact is, human beings evolved to eat meat. its what we do. we have the teeth and eyes of omnivore/hunters and we have the digestive tract to process meat. its natural.

the cost (in time and/or money) to maintain a healthy vegetarian diet over the long term, is probably twice that of a non-vegetarian diet.. I'm not a fucking farmer, and those whole foods markets are expensive as hell. try maintaining balanced diet, with sufficient protien, of vegetarian-only foods. week to week, month to month.




[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2008 2:58:26 PM