BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Old? Don't care. This topic needs a new thread every day until he finally fades away in the NBA.
Quote : | "Enough with Hansbrough infatuation By Rick Morrissey - Chicago Tribune
The NCAA tournament soon will be upon us. It normally is a highlight of the year for me.
Great teams abound. Upsets lurk. Unlikely stories present themselves. Tournament pools overflow. What's there not to like?
Well, now that you asked, North Carolina's Tyler Hansbrough would be at the top of my "not-to-like" list. And right now, it's a list of one.
I don't know Hansbrough. He could be the nicest kid in the world, for all I know. He could be the kind of kid who helps old ladies in Duke jerseys across the street.
But if you want to talk about overexposure, you start with Hansbrough, who is on TV so much that, by comparison, Paris Hilton has an air of mystery to her.
It's not his fault. He fascinates the networks in a way no 22-year-old college basketball player should. He makes the most of his considerable ability, which is why Sports Illustrated made him its national player of the year. He will be an average player in the NBA, but that's really beside the point.
You would think he's Michael Jordan by the way the analysts yammer on about his "intensity," a word that apparently is surgically attached to Hansbrough and no one else. The lowlight came last year when ESPN announcer Bill Raftery uttered these words while the camera was trained on Hansbrough during a timeout: "Watching Tyler Hansbrough listen is special!"
Yes, watching Hansbrough intensely listen to his coach makes for thrilling television. In fact, I thought he got robbed in the Best Actor-Drama category in the 2007 Emmys.
College basketball announcers seem bewitched by Hansbrough's wide-eyed look on the court, and only further scientific study will tell us whether those eyes have gotten wider since he started realizing they were the focus of so much attention. As it stands, his eyes are bigger than Fat Albert's stomach.
Apparently no one else in college basketball hustles the way Hansbrough does. Other players dive for loose balls, but when Hansbrough does it, you would think he were diving on a grenade to save the lives of his teammates the way the TV announcers describe it.
There is something vaguely unsettling about all this. When was the last time you heard a broadcaster talk about the work ethic and intensity of a black player? Maybe that's overanalyzing things, but when you see other kids busting their butts on the court and getting no recognition for it, you try to understand why.
All I know is that, provided North Carolina keeps winning - and even then it might not make a difference - CBS will have wall-to-wall coverage of Hansbrough. The last person to get this much attention for his eyes was Superman, and it was for his extraordinary vision. I think I just gave CBS another story idea: Tyler Hansbrough, superhero. Where does a network go to get a cape?
There's a lot to like about Hansbrough. He does play hard. He's fearless inside. He throws up some shots only a mother could love, but more often than not, they go in. (Speaking of Hansbrough's mother, we will be seeing his parents over and over again during tournament coverage too.)
When TV gets its teeth into a subject, it has a tendency to not let go. The lockjaw approach is the only thing it knows. For all the times I've seen Hansbrough on television this year, the only things I know about him are A) he's a maniac on the court and B) he's really good.
There's nothing else they can come up with? Nothing beyond the crazed look on his face?
When Duke's Gerald Henderson broke Hansbrough's nose with his elbow last season, you couldn't help but wonder whether that was for all the college basketball players who were sick of the gushing over the North Carolina forward. Henderson was suspended for a game. You also couldn't help but wonder if the networks at least might have taken a moment to consider whether they had played a role in the bloodletting.
And it came to you almost immediately: Nah.
His nickname is Psycho-T for the way he works in practice and in games. He should be applauded for the way he plays, for the effort he gives, for the adrenaline he brings to the court. So why don't I feel like applauding? After all, it's not his fault ESPN covers his tenacity the way C-SPAN covers Congress.
During the years, people have tried to introduce TV folks to the concept of less being more but have received blank looks in return.
So brace yourself for a month of the one-dimensional Tyler Hansbrough, and brace yourself for the monopoly on hustle that CBS will hand him. Of course, you won't have to brace for anything if you turn down the volume." |
[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM. Reason : (I acknowledge the irony.)]3/14/2008 12:45:50 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
First of all..
Quote : | "When Duke's Gerald Henderson broke Hansbrough's nose with his elbow last season, you couldn't help but wonder whether that was for all the college basketball players who were sick of the gushing over the North Carolina forward." |
Fuck duke too.
Also,
Quote : | "He could be the kind of kid who helps old ladies in Duke jerseys across the street." |
My sister has a picture of him (I won't post it, but TWW might be able to find it) where she's giving the wolf with her fingers, and he got pissed. So he's a fag and an asshole most likely.3/14/2008 12:55:32 AM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
article is spot on.. dont care if it's old, thats the first time i read it.
ps - FUCK Hansdouche 3/14/2008 12:58:47 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
My friend at UNC has a class with him. He said he spends the whole time looking up his stats on ESPN. That's when he actually goes to class. He's also failing that class. But somehow that will be overlooked. 3/14/2008 1:28:29 AM |
gunsupbrah Suspended 885 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this thread is ripe with jealousy" |
3/14/2008 1:29:59 AM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
the guy can play 3/14/2008 1:32:56 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^I can't tell if that's a joke or not. In case it isn't...
RIFE
The thread is rife with jealousy. 3/14/2008 2:15:09 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't know Hansbrough. He could be the nicest kid in the world, for all I know. He could be the kind of kid who helps old ladies in Duke jerseys across the street." |
from multiple people who have had run-ins with him, that is patently false.3/14/2008 2:21:17 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""this thread is ripe with jealousy sick and tired of exactly what the article pointed out"" |
[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 2:24 AM. Reason : ]3/14/2008 2:24:25 AM |
scm011 All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When was the last time you heard a broadcaster talk about the work ethic and intensity of a black player" |
i like how he just randomly threw that in the middle of the article3/14/2008 8:21:40 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this thread is ripe with jealousy" |
and
Quote : | "the guy can play" |
After seeing the halfassed loafing from our team all damn year, Psycho T would be a breath of fresh air.3/14/2008 8:25:38 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
haha you guys think hansbrough would get the same calls if he played at state hahahaha....that fool would have fouled out of 8 games this season
and also if hickson was on unc, singler wouldnt have gotten FOY] 3/14/2008 8:27:43 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, because he would have had a coach that knew how to use him 3/14/2008 8:52:38 AM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
HAY GUYS I'M RICK MORRISSEY
OTHER WRITERS SAY HANSBOROUGH IS A RAW TALENT; I SAY HANSBOROUGH IS TALKED ABOUT TOO MUCH!!! WAIT WHAT WAS MY POINT AGAIN? WHO CARES, I'M BEING CONTRARY! HEYYYYOH!
ALSO: RACE CARD
(JUST KIDDING)
(NOT REALLY)
3/14/2008 8:54:50 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
hansbrough is 1000000x the player that beasley is...beasley might have a lot more talent and athleticism and skill but he doesnt have the will...and thats all you need 3/14/2008 8:57:32 AM |
frshmkr11 Veteran 328 Posts user info edit post |
^hahah
no will whatsoever 3/14/2008 8:59:01 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^AHAHAHA
Seriously though, Beasley's the man.
And, jocristian, rife, rife, rife. Good Lord. 3/14/2008 3:19:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Hansbrough should be NPOY over Beasley. Their numbers are similar and I give the award to the guy who has helped lead his team to a 30-2 record. No one is saying Beasley isn't a FAR, FAR better NBA prospect, because that would be ridiculous. But the award is NPOY in college... and that is Hansbrough.
As far as the media infatuation... it's about the same that Redick/Morisson got. Do you guys not remember Mike Patrick et al every time JJ was on the court. I really think Patrick soiled his pants a few times doing Duke games during the Redick years.
I can tell you one thing... I would give my left nut to have a guy like Hansbrough play for State...
*** As far as Singler vs Hickson. Singler absolutely deserved FOY no matter what teams each played on. Singler has a high basketball IQ, values the ball and had very good numbers. Hickson is a great talent but Singler was more efficient...
[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : x] 3/14/2008 3:22:10 PM |
gunsupbrah Suspended 885 Posts user info edit post |
it's amazing that people talk about good ball players...who would have thought?! 3/14/2008 3:24:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
did Branden Wright deserve FOY last year over Costner?
Beasley is 3rd in the nation in scoring and 1st in the nation in rebounding...Hansbrough isn't top 5 in either of those categories...I could care less about who led their team to better record...Beasley is hands down the best player in college basketball this year and therefore deserves the award for player of the year...Texas finished 25-10 last year (Kansas State is 20-10 right now btw)...Durant still deserved POY
maybe you havent watched enough Kansas State, I dunno] 3/14/2008 3:26:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
As far as Wright vs Costner... I think it was close. I would have liked to see BC get it but I had no problems with Wright winning it... I think the fact that Costner was a second year player factored a bit into it, even though it shouldnt have.
As far as Hansbrough v. Beasley.
Beasley: 26.5 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 1/2.4 A/TO, 53.7 FG% Hansbrough: 23.1 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 1/2.3 A/TO, 54.3 FG%
They have similar numbers. UNC has had a better year and that plays into it a lot imo... i don't care if you want to agree with me or not. Most of the experts around the country do... 3/14/2008 3:33:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
they definitely have similar stat lines
i just dont know how anybody could watch beasley play a few games and not realize he's easily the best player in the country
and fuck your "experts"...most people have them at 1a and 1b...you're acting like hansbrough is going to win in some kind of landslide...my ass
if hansbrough wins its because they award it to the best player on (one of the) best team(s)...not the best player period] 3/14/2008 3:36:51 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i fully expect them to split the major NPOY awards this year, and as a unc fan i really have no problem with that. beasley is a tremendous and really just as deserving 3/14/2008 3:41:26 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Apparently no one else in college basketball hustles the way Hansbrough does. Other players dive for loose balls, but when Hansbrough does it, you would think he were diving on a grenade to save the lives of his teammates the way the TV announcers describe it. " |
spot.fucking.on.3/14/2008 4:53:28 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but when Hansbrough does it, you would think he were diving on a grenade to save the lives of his teammates the way the TV announcers describe it." |
i actually heard that analogy in the UNC game i watched recently3/14/2008 5:27:06 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can tell you one thing... I would give my left nut to have a guy like Hansbrough play for State..." |
i wouldnt because we would still find a way to fuck it up and then all youd have is one less nut3/14/2008 5:34:52 PM |
tailsock Suspended 1616 Posts user info edit post |
good article 3/14/2008 5:42:31 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
3/14/2008 6:10:17 PM |
LardAss Suspended 1558 Posts user info edit post |
i don't care how good he is at basketball, he looks like a fucking retard when he's out there playing. Put his ass on any other team (besides Duke) and he's only an above average player because he doesn't get ALLLLLL the calls. 3/14/2008 6:15:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i heard his brother at mississippi state or wherever looks just like him 3/14/2008 6:28:45 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i heard he is going to flop as an nba player 3/14/2008 6:29:38 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
I can't wait for his gay ass to graduate so the media will quit sucking his goddamn dick...but then again, they will find someone else to be infatuated with 3/14/2008 7:23:00 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's no surprise. He's already flopping as a college player. 3/14/2008 7:27:31 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
OMG JAYBEE WONT LIKE THIS 3/14/2008 7:30:59 PM |
gunsupbrah Suspended 885 Posts user info edit post |
"We're satisfied with the win - we're moving on. But there are some things we didn't do that we want to improve on, especially defensively and offensively." -Tyler Hansbrough
[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM. Reason : ] 3/14/2008 7:35:07 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
3/14/2008 7:39:56 PM |
morpheus647 All American 1108 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ http://www.mstateathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=90867&SPID=10994&DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=944325&Q_SEASON=2007
Not really 3/14/2008 7:49:16 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
wtf...he actually looks more like rex chapman
my boy told me he looked just like him, dunno...maybe he looks more like him when he plays...goofy faces and shit 3/14/2008 8:02:16 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'm still not sold on this guy...he just doesnt seem that good imo 3/14/2008 10:32:13 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
the bobcats will draft him and continue to suck 3/15/2008 1:37:09 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
this was from an espn article on Hansbrough/Beasely
HUBERT DAVIS: Tyler Hansbrough is the only player in the country who plays hard all the time, on both ends of the floor and on every possession in games, practice, shootarounds and pickup ball.
one of the dumbest things i've ever read. does he REALLY think hansbrough is the ONLY player in the country who plays hard all the time? i mean, i realize Hubert Davis is a homer, but that's a pretty retarded statement 3/15/2008 10:24:59 AM |
Toyota4x4 All American 1226 Posts user info edit post |
If Hansblow gets NPOY it will only be because UNC went farther in the NCAAT and because UNC has a better record. However, if you analyze the argument further, things look a little different.
1. Beasley beats Hansblow in almost every category, with the exceptions being steals (1.3/game v. 1.5/game), fg% (53.7 v. 54.3), and ft% (77 v. 81.3). Even the exceptions, Beasley is close to beating him.
2. Not to mention a significant portion of Hansblow's points comes from FT (~37%), he has the most FT attempts in the nation (321 taken, 261 made, 60 missed). Beasley has 256 taken, 197 made, 59 missed. Meaning that Hansblow is getting arguably easier baskets than Beasley.
3. Arguably, the Big 12 is a better basketball conference this year, than the ACC. K.State has to play Kansas (ranked top 5), Texas (ranked top 10). UNC only has to play Duke (top 5/10). The Big 12 has probably 6 teams that will make the NCAAT (KU, UT, KSt, Baylor, Ok, TxA&M). The ACC only has 4, maybe 5 teams that will make the NCAAT (UNC, Duke, Clemson, VT, UM). Therefore, Beasley has arguably harder competition than Hansblow has.
4. Hansblow has a team full of Burger Boys that compliment and help him. Beasley doesn't have such players around him. However, this argument could go either way: (a) Hansblow is that good because he can get the stats he does with those kind of players around him; Beasley can get those stats because he is the obvious best player on the team. (b) Hansblow has such great players around him that help him; Beasley doesn't have those great players to help him.
Conclusion: Statistically Beasley should win hands down. However, since UNC will likely go farther in the NCAAT, Hansblow could win because of that. Even though Beasley, IMO, has much more talent than Hansblow has. Hansblow is good, but not the best player in the nation. 3/15/2008 12:39:56 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If Hansblow gets NPOY it will only be because UNC went farther in the NCAAT" |
If I'm not mistaken, NPOY is given out before the tournament.3/15/2008 12:51:38 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
hansbro will get the NPOY. does anyone really think that the media's darling boy isnt going to get it? 3/15/2008 1:18:38 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
so if he doesnt get it will everyone shut up about the media? 3/15/2008 1:19:49 PM |
Toyota4x4 All American 1226 Posts user info edit post |
^ I will, Yes.
^^^ I didn't know when the NPOY was given out.
[Edited on March 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .] 3/15/2008 1:33:30 PM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
Is this what always happens when State fans have a horrible year?
Oh and how do you feel now for trading Herb for 1 win against UNC?
Jealousy itt 3/15/2008 1:35:51 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
3/15/2008 1:44:03 PM |
Toyota4x4 All American 1226 Posts user info edit post |
I would be making this argument regardless of how we did this year, because the media would still be blowing Hansblow up and calling him one of the top players in the nation. 3/15/2008 1:54:46 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
Just another mediocre college player who just so happens to go to unc and is balls deep in the media. He won't do shit in the NBA. FACT 3/15/2008 2:01:34 PM |