You will be ours. Oh yes. You will be ours.

3/14/2008 2:33:18 PM

hahahaha, no way

3/14/2008 2:34:49 PM

a sphincter says what



a sphincter.....says what

3/14/2008 2:35:02 PM

Not a chance Pearl leaves for State.

3/14/2008 2:39:20 PM

Whatever.

3/14/2008 2:40:52 PM

He'll come here. We just need someone to get some transcripts of his phone calls to recruits and rat him out to the NCAA...

3/14/2008 2:43:52 PM

now that would be shitty.

who would do such a thing?

3/14/2008 2:51:10 PM

yeah, he made them cheat, they had no control over it.... oh wait, maybe they shouldnt have been cheating to begin with

3/14/2008 2:54:29 PM

If he was so anti cheating he wouldn't be coaching at UT.

3/14/2008 2:59:20 PM

whys that? Show me a violation by the actual school... waiting...

3/14/2008 3:00:03 PM

This guy's a walking violation



Just because the NCAA hasn't come down on him doesn't mean that he isn't a fat fucking cheater.

3/14/2008 3:05:21 PM

OJ was found not guilty in his criminal trial

that means he didn't kill his ex wife and Ronald Goldman

3/14/2008 3:06:19 PM

Quote :

"The Associated Press KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The University of Tennessee, which in recent years has uncovered cheating in its advanced degree programs and a telephone card fraud scandal among its athletes, is now investigating whether tutors did schoolwork for football players. Tennessee President J. Wade Gilley, who started his job last month, said Monday the school is following "normal procedure and has turned this matter over to the (university's) general counsel's office for review." "Once this review is complete, the university will announce its findings and, if necessary, take appropriate action," he said. Athletic director Doug Dickey said the university also has reported the matter to Southeastern Conference commissioner Roy Kramer. Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer has not commented on the allegations. ESPN reported Sunday that internal memos show high-level administrators in the athletic department were told of four tutors who may have done schoolwork for at least five football players, possibly violating the university's honor code and NCAA rules. None of the information was passed on to the proper campus authorities charged with investigating possible rules infractions, said Malcolm McInnis, NCAA compliance officer for Tennessee. The alleged incidents dated to 1995, and it was unclear whether any of the players were on the 1998 national championship team. Three of the five players have transferred, according to ESPN. Meanwhile, four Tennessee redshirt freshmen, including kick returner and NCAA champion sprinter Leonard Scott, were held out of the Memphis game on Saturday and were placed on indefinite suspension as a result of the school's internal investigation. The NCAA is aware of the allegations. "It is pretty early at this time to know where any of this may go," NCAA spokeswoman Jane Jankowski said. "Typically, in these kinds of scenarios it is very common that the university and the NCAA will be in touch." It's unclear what action might be taken by the school or the NCAA if the allegations are proven. In June, Minnesota coach Clem Haskins resigned under pressure amid accusations of academic fraud in the men's basketball program. Tennessee has investigated allegations of academic fraud before. In 1992, the university rescinded advanced degrees to two University of Tennessee Space Institute graduates who provided government contracts to a professor who supplied them with plagiarized dissertations. All were later convicted of federal fraud charges. Three years later, the university found 41 athletes charged $26,000 in long distance telephone calls to a stolen university phone card. Two players were suspended for a season and others received lesser punishment. The new allegations come less than a month after Tennessee touted a much improved graduation rate of 57 percent for all football players who enrolled in 1992. The graduation rate for players enrolled in 1991 was 11 percent - one of the worst rates in the country. Dickey said the most pressing issue is to determine the eligibility of Scott and the three other players - Reggie Ridley, Keyon Whiteside and Ryan Rowe - before this week's game against Auburn. "We really have not done anything about longer-term problems that might be out there," he said. School investigators will want to determine how many current players might be involved, the "failure to report" the problem to higher-ups in the program, and the "overall picture of who is managing what," Dickey said. Carl Asp, Tennessee's NCAA faculty athletic representative, told ESPN that the internal investigation is focusing on Ron Payne, a longtime tutor who has worked with hundreds of football players for more than a decade. Robin Wright, the former coordinator for academic programs in the Tennessee athletic department, said she attempted to alert her bosses, Gerry Dickey and Carmen Tegano, to possible academic fraud. Last December, she sent a memo to Dickey - no relation to Doug Dickey - in which she said tutor Jenai Brown "admitted to me that she had been `helping the guys with their papers.' " Brown denied doing any work for players she tutored. "That's a lie, I can tell you that," she said. According to memos obtained by ESPN, Wright cited five unidentified players she believed may have committed academic fraud - a defensive lineman, a linebacker, a receiver, a defensive back and a center. The defensive back used an unapproved math tutor who admitted she had gone to his classes and taken notes, both "clear violations of rules," Wright said in a memo. Wright, who now runs tutoring programs for all students at Stephen F. Austin University, did not return a call seeking comment Monday. "

http://www.amarillo.com/stories/092899/spo_LS0449.001.shtml

3/14/2008 3:06:30 PM

Maybe NCSU should do some cheating....

And UT has never been on any kind of NCAA probation.

Some of you need to look at how much NCAA trouble our school has been before you talk shit.

3/14/2008 3:06:56 PM

^ exactly.

^^ that was by the players/tutors, NOT the school. That was investigated and nothing was done to the school, they were found not guilty. Trust me, as much as Tennessee has been scrutinized if they had something on them they would have found them guilty

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:08:48 PM

Aren't the tutors employees of the school?

3/14/2008 3:09:59 PM

what school did the players go to

3/14/2008 3:09:59 PM

^^ but the school didnt tell them to do it. Once again, if they had done something wrong the NCAA would have done something, but they didnt. That investigation went on for years, never found any wrong doing by the actual school.


^ so? we werent talking about players being good or bad citizens, we were talking about Fulmer cheating...

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:11:50 PM

OJ is not guilty

Quote :

"if they had something on them they would have found them guilty "

ORLY?

3/14/2008 3:12:13 PM

dont be stupid. One is decided by a jury of people randomly picked from the general population, the other is a board that decided that they should look into a school, then found nothing so they determined they were not guilty.





[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:15 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:13:04 PM

don't be naive

3/14/2008 3:14:03 PM

tell me why the NCAA would specifically CHOOSE to examine the program, then find something on them, then turn around and cover it up? That makes no sense.


Dont tell me you are turning into another t-dub sports conspiracy theory freak



oh, and once again

Quote :

"Some of you need to look at how much NCAA trouble our school has been before you talk shit."

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:17 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:16:54 PM

beardawg, can we pic bomb this now plz

3/14/2008 3:17:45 PM

and for the record, I didnt start this Tennessee thread

3/14/2008 3:18:39 PM

Quote :

"Some of you need to realize nobody gives a fuck about Tennessee except you"

3/14/2008 3:19:13 PM

UT does seem to bother a whole lot of people on this board

3/14/2008 3:20:23 PM

^^ apparently they do, for them to get so riled up about them... if someone started a Montana State thread I wouldnt even look at it, much less comment in it

3/14/2008 3:21:09 PM

if you were a Montana State fan as much as you were a Tennessee fan (which entails posting all about Montana State), everyone on here would hate Montana State as much as they hate Tennessee

3/14/2008 3:22:14 PM

once again, I didnt make this thread.


and once again, when someone made that thread about your favorite schools besides State, Tennessee was the most common one listed.

3/14/2008 3:23:26 PM

Quote :

"tell me why the NCAA would specifically CHOOSE to examine the program, then find something on them, then turn around and cover it up? That makes no sense. "

According to Jerry Tarkanian, the ncaa is hesitant to show evidence of cheating in major programs because they don't want it to appear that cheating is prevalent on the best teams. Instead, they come down hard on small schools like Fresno State and SMU and ignore cheating at UCLA, Kentucky, etc.

3/14/2008 3:24:15 PM

Quote :

" apparently they do, for them to get so riled up about them... if someone started a Montana State thread I wouldnt even look at it, much less comment in "

That a fucking lie and you know it. I know damn well if I saw a Montana State thread I'd open it to see why the hell someone is talking about Montana State.

On a personal level, I'm glad my comment started a shitstorm. Mission Accomplished.

3/14/2008 3:24:54 PM

I've (momentarily?) lost my faith in Sid as a head coach. I just want a good coach.

3/14/2008 3:25:12 PM

^^^ are you fucking retarded? yeah, they've ignored Kentucky... google please.



and Alabama, I know they are kind of a tiny, insignificant football program, but they got caught several times, Miami too...


^^ ok, let me restate that... if someone made one Montana State thread I would check it out to see what the hell was up with Montana state. But if someone made several over a long period of time, I would ignore them after the first one

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:31:01 PM

USC sure did get in a lot of trouble when they bought Reggie Bush's family a $500,000 house

they've already stripped them of titles and awards, right? what? they HAVENT?

3/14/2008 3:32:45 PM

Auburn, Alabama, Miami, Kentucky


if they have enough of USC they will do something about it.

3/14/2008 3:35:45 PM

Its well known a booster was buying stuff for UCLA basketball players in the 1970s. He admits it, the players admit it, and there is evidence that John Wooden knew about it. Anything happen?

3/14/2008 3:38:11 PM

but tennwa33 that makes no sense...they're guilty they will be found guilty

just like OJ's criminal trial

3/14/2008 3:38:46 PM

so did they ignore it for Alabama? Auburn? Miami? Kentucky? SMU?


^ and we've already established its different from a random criminal trial

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:40 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:39:59 PM

they've ignored it so far for Tennessee

Quote :

"Some of you need to look at how much NCAA trouble our school has been before you talk shit."

we got punished for cheating...in all likelihood we had a 1973 national championship taken from us...you can't even compare a school who cheated and got caught and faced the consequences, to a team that cheats and continues to get away with it

and tennessee is far from the only one to constantly cheat and get away with it...ohio state, usc, the list goes on

3/14/2008 3:40:39 PM

or maybe they didnt find enough... why would they even look in the first place?

3/14/2008 3:41:28 PM

SMU was the point he was trying to make. They got the death penalty. Is there any chance that would ever happen to an SEC team?

3/14/2008 3:41:36 PM

SMU was a big time program when they got caught... you should know that...


^^^ HAHAHAHA what a bunch of shit. You are the noble white knight who took his punishment with pride!!! Excalibur! that is so much better than a team that hasnt been found guilty of anything hahaha what a bunch of garbage. You are right, you cant compare a team that got caught cheating to a team that hasnt



[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:46 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:42:14 PM

Quote :

"a team that hasnt been found guilty of anything"

i guess it went in one ear and out the other when i told you to stop being naive

3/14/2008 3:46:06 PM

you are the one being naive with this we took our punishment like a man, we are SO noble and courageous for it! crap


FOUND guilty, FOUND. They looked for 3 years, didnt find anything. If they would have, they would have done something. They did something to Alabama and Auburn in the SAME time period so you cant claim any "they wouldnt do it to an SEC team" shit

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:48 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:47:00 PM

So will TN win it all this year? Follow in Fla's footsteps?

3/14/2008 3:47:57 PM

which idiot in here brought up anything about being noble? my comment was in response to packboozie saying to do some research about our own program before i talk shit about another program

i know about our program...we got caught cheating...and we paid the consequences...meanwhile you're so naive you think you run a squeaky clean program

3/14/2008 3:48:33 PM

^^probably not... too inconsistent. The perfect team to beat them is UNC. Just as fast and athletic but ALSO with a good low post game


^ you said it was better to cheat, get caught, face the consequences then not cheat at all (or in your insider, conspiracy lingo, not get CAUGHT cheating)



[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:50 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:48:57 PM

we should really just start cheating again, it's the only thing that works.

3/14/2008 3:50:41 PM

Quote :

"you said it was better to cheat, get caught, face the consequences then not cheat at all "

no i didnt say that at all but when you just make stuff up i guess it makes you sound smarter

3/14/2008 3:50:57 PM

Quote :

"run a squeaky clean program"

never said that... I dont think they are any dirtier (or cleaner) than the average big time college football school out there


^

Quote :

"you can't even compare a school who cheated and got caught and faced the consequences, to a team that cheats and continues to get away with it"

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 3:52 PM. Reason : d]

3/14/2008 3:51:44 PM