is there an intramural team or anything on campus?it's been a minute since i've the chance but i really wouldn't mind rolling around on the mat. anyone know about that dynamic wrestling place on hills borough what's that all about?

3/20/2008 11:39:19 PM

attn: ZomBCraw

3/20/2008 11:49:05 PM

i know there's a wrestling club, but i honestly don't know much more about it. i considered lookin it up a while back, hate i didn't now, i'm way outta shape

3/21/2008 12:06:30 AM

yea its unfortunate that wrestling isnt a sport that you see much of on the recreation side after HS/college. Id still wrestle now if open leagues/tournaments werent so hard to find.

3/21/2008 7:10:34 AM

Back in the day, if people were interested in learning about a place, they would go there, walk in, and talk to somebody there. Alternatively, they would pick up the phone and call the place.

3/21/2008 10:02:50 AM

GO WOLFPACK WRESTLING!!!!1

3/21/2008 10:06:10 AM

<---1998 NCHSAA Hwt State Champ

3/21/2008 10:47:09 AM

^in what school class?

The club team should be close to finished by now, but it was a lot of fun.

3/21/2008 3:38:59 PM

4a

3/21/2008 3:59:13 PM

i think he went to broughton, pretty sure thats AAAA

but it doesnt matter cause he's lying about the rest

3/21/2008 4:01:53 PM

yeah, I find it hard to believe that he was ever in wrestling shape.

3/21/2008 4:14:19 PM

i dont doubt that he wrestled. i just know kids from fuquay that went on to wrestle in college (on scholarship)... and they never came close to a state title. and we were 3a i think. so i'd imagine that anyone who actually pulled a state title (especially 4a) wouldnt have come to ncsu

3/21/2008 4:19:56 PM

wrestling in high school and being in good wrestling shape are two separate entities. We had heavyweights on our high school squad that couldn't run for 5 minutes without getting completely winded.

[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM. Reason : high school]

3/21/2008 4:25:07 PM

i dont think hes lying but i could be wrong.


and jackleg, there are very few kids who never come close to a state title and get a scholarship to wrestle in college..unless youre talking about a community college I was a 2x conference wrestler of the year, ranked most of my last 2 years, only lost 15 matches total in my soph-senior seasons(out of over 100 matches), beat several sate champions in and outside my classification and weight class and i still did not get a scholarship offer to any decent programs (sure to app and places like that but no ACC school or better).

so if that was truly the case, they were the exception and not the rule, they were lying, or they went to terrible programs.

look at the kids who wrestle even at a place like NC State. these are kids who go 50-1 or 50-0 etc in single seasons, are 2,3,4X state champions in competitive 'wrestling states'. And even they are getting passed over by the top wrestling programs and coming to good (but not top tier) wrestling programs like an ACC school. Never coming close to an NCHSAA wrestling state championship does not earn you much recruiting power.

and this was in no way meant to be bragging. this was me saying i was good (and i should have been since i started at 7 years old haha) but not good enough even for ACC schools.

[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ]

3/21/2008 4:26:46 PM

^ yeah. I read jackleg's post and was like wtf. More than half of the North Carolina kids on State's roster won at least one state championship.

It may be slightly different for the bigger schools, but I know down in 2A/1A wrestling it was pretty much a given that you weren't going to get a scholarship for college wrestling unless you wipe the mat with everybody in your entire weight class for 2 or 3 years.

3/21/2008 4:39:08 PM

I know at my high school there were a ton of wrestlers that effectively contributed jack shit for the team the year we won the state championship...so that could easily be the case.

3/21/2008 4:42:56 PM

no one cares about how your team did when recruiting. its 100% individual performance

3/21/2008 4:44:47 PM

^^^yeah, I don't think I've ever met a 1A/2A wrestler that got a scholarship offer to anywhere better than a DII school.

[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : ^^^]

3/21/2008 4:45:05 PM

depends. wrestling is a sport where the difference in the top 3A/4A/1A/2A schools is very small in all honesty. i know lots of 1A/2A guys from NC who have gone on to wrestle at D1 schools, however they came from smart 1A/2A programs that scheduled a majority 3A/4A set of duals and tournaments to prove their worth.

i was in 1A/2A but we but coming into states/regionals every year, over 50% of my matches were against 3A and 4A programs because of tournaments and dual meets we scheduled. (the only 1A/2A matches we had were the conference rescheduled matches usually). now granite, we were one of the top 1A/2A programs but we consistently beat 3A/4A teams in dual matches and placed top 5 in 20+ team 3A/4A tournaments. I tech-fall'd a guy my senior year who was a returning 4A state champ for example (I was wrestling up a weightclass that night too ). Doesn't get more embarrassing than that. On the same subject there were 3A and 4A programs that would get demolished in some 1A/2A conferences

It really just depends on the coaching and scheduling of your program on how competitive you are across the board and your stock as a possible recruit.

[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 4:59 PM. Reason : ]

3/21/2008 4:54:53 PM

Quote :

"wrestling? (the real kind)"

it's still real to me dammit!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI

3/21/2008 5:05:03 PM

http://www.ncmat.com/97-98/state_4a.html

3/21/2008 7:28:41 PM

Quote :

"103 1. Mike Robertson (Cary) 13-6 Tyrone Hodge (Orange) 3. Ted Mitchell (Scotland County) 19-4 Mike Valldeperas (71st) 112 1. JC Hawk (71st) 8-2 Justin Lane (WF-Rolesville) 3. Kevin Gulledge (South Rowan) pin :47 Chad Ball (Independence) 119 1. Bryant Cates (Riverside) 12-3 Jeremy Richeal (NW Guilford) 3. Steve Wiggins (71st) 6-3 Adam Bailey (Davie County) 125 1. Thomas Little (Northeastern) 6-5 Sudden Death OT Eddie Haywood (Riverside) 3. Randy Dennis (Cary) 1-0 Reco Brixton (Pine Forest) 130 1. Matt Atkinson (Watauga) 9-4 Anthony Warren (Mount Tabor) 3. Starkey DeSoto (Independence) 7-4 Tim Bright (New Bern) 135 1. Dennis Landin (Cary) 5-2 Charlie Walker (Riverside) 3. Scotty Acfalle (71st) 7-1 Brandon Price (SE Guilford) 140 1. Jake Reynolds (Chapel Hill) 9-1 Jacob Conrad (South Stokes) 3. Uly Mafnas (71st) 7-4 Randy Newcomer (South View) 145 1. Anthony Walton (Cary) 22-8 Harry Dingle (Lee County) 3. Mike Curry (Watauga) 9-3 Tony Denham (Southern Wayne) 152 1. Steve Smith (Cary) 10-0 Chad Barbour (Leesville Road) 3. Lee Jones (Person) 5-1 Nathan Hooker (South Stokes) 160 1. Donald Cates (Riverside) 9-3 TJ Jacobs (71st) 3. CJ Harris (Northeastern) 5-0 Erik Wince (Crest) 171 1. Ben Annas (NW Guilford) pin 2:45 Graig Cooper (Watauga) 3. Austen Palmer (Riverside) 5-1 Israel Ward (DH Conley) 189 1. Chris McMillian (Apex) 7-3 overtime Taj Parham (71st) 3. Scott Cornatzer (Davie County) 3-2 Jarrod Williams (Olympic) 215 1. Alonzo Rempesent (Northern Durham) pin 5:18 Charles Roberts (71st) 3. Brian Murphy (Davie County) 5-4 Chris Tobin (Cary) 275 1. Justin Smith (Broughton) 4-2 Lamont Hale (Scotland) 3. Zach Bishop (WF-Rolesville) pin 2:53 Rex Reece (West Carteret)"

3/21/2008 7:29:22 PM

http://www.ncmat.com

3/22/2008 12:29:37 AM

Quote :

"now granite"

3/22/2008 1:50:17 AM

LOLz woops i hate when i type retarded crap like that

[Edited on March 22, 2008 at 9:33 AM. Reason : ]

3/22/2008 9:19:35 AM

Quote :

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI"

holy shit!! I'd never seen that!

3/22/2008 9:51:27 AM

hey i was a wrestling trainer in high school

3/22/2008 12:19:47 PM

^ Haha, I don't think thats something I would be sharing. Our trainers were...lets say promiscuous, to be polite.

3/22/2008 12:54:03 PM

oh no i never hooked up with any of them, just had fun watching them in spandex haha

i just cleaned up their blood and puke, hence why i am in nursing school.

3/22/2008 1:47:32 PM

^^ haha... yeahhhhhh i believe ours had the same sort of reputation... i'll leave it at that. i for one, did not hook up w any of them

^ the girls did like the spandex... that's for sure

might as well follow the crowd:

02-03 (my junior year)
State Dual Championships:

4A: Riverside 38, Cary 30
3A: Morehead 31, East Gaston 26
2A: Southern Vance 34, Brevard 30
1A: South Davidson 37, Alleghany 27

starter, only tied for 5th in regionals though, then broke my nose the next football season so that wrestling season was, well, not as good with a mask.


[Edited on March 22, 2008 at 2:11 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2008 2:05:07 PM

excuses... the guy i beat for states wore a mask during all of his matches, except for states.

[Edited on March 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2008 2:51:58 PM

I always thought wearing a mask was as good as cheating. The cross-face just isn't nearly as effective when you can't rub the guys face against his teeth

We had this guy in our conference that wore one his entire career. He also wrestled on a team known for being dirty. Like the kind of dirty where you come off the mat and your nuts hurt because they kept kneeing you/hitting you in them every chance they got. One of our guys swears one of those bastards bit him in the balls.

3/22/2008 3:11:24 PM

that's not uncommon.

3/22/2008 3:32:33 PM

if you're not cheating

you're not trying

3/22/2008 3:34:12 PM

i got a little pissed, realized this was tww, and knew ignorance would abound. if you want to insult me about something you probably haven't even experienced, fine; i say you should try it sometime. i can hold my own, but i know i wasn't some big champion. that mask hurt my season. i relied on my physical strength and quickness more than anything, and a good part of that knocked out pretty bad by not breathing or seeing as i normally would have, not to mention screwing up training since i had to sit out for a while after it happened, which was halloween night.

i didn't have a choice about the mask. i hated it. i'd already had my fair share of cross faces, that didn't bother me. usually they just pissed me off.

[Edited on March 22, 2008 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2008 9:20:10 PM

^ i'm not knockin you for the face mask. You don't really have much choice when you break your nose.

3/23/2008 12:03:57 AM

thanks;

believe me i understand the complaints against em... i'd get frustrated with goin against it too, but man it sucked havin to wear it.
crazy freak accident how it happened too, mess shoulda made espn or somethin

3/23/2008 12:35:51 AM

I happened to see that ESPN aired the national Division I championships tonight; I was never a wrestler, so I tuned in for a little bit out of curiousity before going out to dinner. I'm sure they may replay it on ESPN2 at some point, so you guys can be on the lookout for it if you're interested.

3/23/2008 2:32:04 AM

would be cool. i saw earlier today that caldwell got knocked out in the semifinals kid's dynamite though, first all american wrestler for state since the late 90s. still young, just a soph. so we may have a future champ on the team. hate i missed the finals, i'll have to see if i can catch that at some point

3/23/2008 2:59:48 AM

Dynamic Wrestling next to Gumby's

We have practice on tuesday and thursday from 8:30-10ish, they also run a freestyle practice on monday and wednesday i think that starts at 7:30. Its not very structured just go out to wrestle and the crowd is very inconsistent. One week theres 15 people another week its just 4. If you have any questions you can shoot me a PM or join the Dynamic Wrestling group on facebook.

3/23/2008 3:17:28 AM

I always found it easier wrestling against guys who wore masks. It was easy to cover up their field of vision and shoot on them, and if you crossfaced them hard enough you could usually drag the mask across their broken nose.

3/23/2008 9:59:45 AM

^ true. told my dad he was nuts when he thought i should try wearin one of those clear masks they give to basketball players

^^ i assume u guys have some competition/tournaments of some kind?

3/23/2008 11:15:01 AM

various matches and tournaments but not as often as you would like. There are some really good guys out there, Dynamic is a club for elementary and middle school kids and the coaches for dynamic typically stick around and wrestle with the college guys.

3/23/2008 12:21:01 PM

cool, may have to check that out one day. i feel older every year, every now and then i wonder if i've still got anything left

3/23/2008 4:50:44 PM

there is no club around here for wrestling??


theres fuckin gotta be, theres no way the cary and durham guys are that good year in and year out without some kind of year round club

I know at crossfit they do open mat on weekends where alot of highschool wrestlers will go train

theres GOTTA be something in this area, but i wouldnt know how to look

3/23/2008 4:54:38 PM

There is a wrestling club on campus. I wrestled in highschool. I sucked at it, but it taught me a TON and I'm really glad I did it.

3/23/2008 10:25:04 PM

Quote :

"yea its unfortunate that wrestling isnt a sport that you see much of on the recreation side after HS/college."

MMA.

3/24/2008 9:37:30 AM

MMA is hardly the same thing as wrestling.

3/24/2008 9:41:59 AM

you have to unlearn almost your entire ground game from wrestling to be comfortable in MMA.

3/24/2008 11:35:09 AM

concur, MMA != wrestling

3/24/2008 1:33:33 PM