3/24/2008 6:33:23 PM

It crossed my mind as well. But alas, this should be a solemn time of restraint.

3/24/2008 6:51:43 PM

ibtl

3/24/2008 7:26:14 PM

LOL, I like it

3/24/2008 7:46:49 PM

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"alas, this should be a solemn time of restraint"

why do we need solemnity and restraint now?

what happened after 250 soldiers died? what did we do for #3847? do we know his name?

what will we do for 5000? 10,000?

when did we bow our heads in solemn remembrance for the 100,000 Iraqi dead, disproportionately composed of women and children?

most importantly, when do we get back to fuckin' some motherfuckers up? why is gas almost $4.00/gallon? how the fuck am i supposed to drive to the beach in my H2 this year?

3/24/2008 11:14:50 PM

Yeah, that post was sarcasm.

3/24/2008 11:23:19 PM

GOOD THING THE MESSAGE BOARD WILL SHOW THOSE BASTARDS.

[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM. Reason : BETTER YET! I'LL VOTE!!!11]

3/24/2008 11:44:18 PM

^^^

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"why is gas almost $4.00/gallon?"

It's a long way from "almost," man. The current national unleaded averages as of 3-24-2008 at 3:05 a.m. are as follows: $3.260 (regular); $3.462 (mid); and $3.587 (premium).

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/

Please don't exaggerate.

BTW--and I know I'll regret revealing this--I have that poster ("Tonight, we dine in hell!") over my pub table.

[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2008 11:48:26 PM

leave it to our resident pedant to turn a thread about dead soldiers into a nickel-and-dime trivia session.



[Edited on March 24, 2008 at 11:58 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2008 11:56:34 PM

This is a thread about dead soldiers?

Damn, I thought it was a somewhat humorous but not at all serious parody thread.

3/25/2008 12:14:48 AM

^^ No, actually, it's not "nickel-and-dime"--it's about seventy-five cents a gallon. And you're the one that brought up the price of gas here--I'm simply not letting you skew the numbers.

Solemnity? Please.

^ Yeah, JoeSalisbury mourns the American dead by mockingly comparing their loss to that of King Leonidas's Greeks. GG.

A serious comparison would reveal that--like the "300" Greeks--the Americans who died were part of the most powerful military force in the world, and they died fighting for something: Duty, honor, country. There is no shame in that.

[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 12:25 AM. Reason : .]

3/25/2008 12:15:57 AM

Meh, it'll be $4.00 by the time he drives to the beach this summer.

3/25/2008 6:24:26 AM

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"the Americans who died were part of the most powerful military force in the world, and they died fighting for something: Duty, honor, country. There is no shame in that."

You overlooked a few things:

1. The "most powerful military force in the world" is a despised occupying power (and one that's getting its sad fat ass kicked by a bunch of insurgents).

2. The soldiers who died weren't fighting for duty, honor, or any other lofty ideals. They were sent to fight for oil and empire. They're making the return trip in body bags, but that's part of the cost of imperialism.

3. There's plenty of shame in being part of this war. The only positive to come from it is that the failures of the American military have shown the rest of the world how little they have to fear from the bankrupt failure that is the USA.

3/25/2008 7:35:32 AM

^

Wow, tell us how you really feel. A little over the top I would think

3/25/2008 7:59:05 AM

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"1. The "most powerful military force in the world" is a despised occupying power (and one that's getting its sad fat ass kicked by a bunch of insurgents). 2. The soldiers who died weren't fighting for duty, honor, or any other lofty ideals. They were sent to fight for oil and empire. They're making the return trip in body bags, but that's part of the cost of imperialism. 3. There's plenty of shame in being part of this war. The only positive to come from it is that the failures of the American military have shown the rest of the world how little they have to fear from the bankrupt failure that is the USA."

have another toke.

3/25/2008 9:15:18 AM

^ Don't mind if I do...

3/25/2008 10:15:55 AM

gas in seattle, like many other major cities, is around $3.75. it's likely going to be $4.00 or more by summer for large portions of america. but it's a minor point, and it doesnt matter because you'll still be here telling us how cheap it is out in the "impressive economy" of Fuquay-Varina.

this war has been morally, politically, strategically bankrupt from the start. the only ones profiting are war contractor buddies of Cheney and pals, along with the rabid right-wing fundamentalist Christian fascists who want to drive the world into an apocalyptic religious conflagration to fulfill their twisted ideology based on their dominionist interpretation of The Revelation of St. John.

so i say, fuck it. lets just all go ahead and parade around in an absurd homoerotic militaristic fantasy a la King Leonidas and continue trumpet this notion that us noble Americans are somehow superior to the rest of the world, and we're going to save everyone from the evils of tyranny.





[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM. Reason : ]

3/25/2008 10:38:49 AM

so you dont feel that we have a duty as Americans to rid the world of its bastards? is it your opinion that we should instead let people suffer at the hands of the ruthless? Bosnia, Somali, etc...?

Ive always been curious of this answer by those with your opinions on Iraq. I am certianly not arguing that Iraq has gone well or was done the right way but I think Saddam was a bastard and is better off swinging on the end of a rope and I do think we have a duty to fight for those that are less fortunate than us.

the US is always in a 'damned if you do and damned if you dont' type situation. the international community is always bitching that we do too much or not enough.

3/25/2008 11:00:02 AM

The problem is that we, alone, play judge, jury, and executioner. When one entity is the sole decider of who is guilty of wrong-doing, there will always be those who disagree.

You said Sadaam was a bastard. I agree. But there are many around the world who view Bush the same way. The only difference is that they don't have the same ability to do anything about it as we do. It's morally irresponsible to grant ourselves that much power.

3/25/2008 11:03:11 AM

IBTL

3/25/2008 11:21:49 AM

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"You said Sadaam was a bastard. I agree. But there are many around the world who view Bush the same way. The only difference is that they don't have the same ability to do anything about it as we do. It's morally irresponsible to grant ourselves that much power."

yeah but there is no way to compare Bush's bastardisms to Saddam's. there is a HUGE difference. Bush isnt genociding people in his own country. Bush isnt gassing minorities. you cant argue that.

3/25/2008 12:48:57 PM

^How can you say there is no way to compare the two and then go on to compare the two?

3/25/2008 12:56:17 PM

^^ So only killing people in your own country is the only way to be considered a bad person?

3/25/2008 1:01:40 PM

3/25/2008 1:20:35 PM

yet another stunning photocommentary from our perpetually annoyed conservative.

he knows he doesn't like it.

he doesn't need to know why.

3/25/2008 2:00:29 PM

hahaha

first post

^that post


ITS LIKE RAAAAAIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY

3/25/2008 2:10:55 PM

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"Bush isnt gassing minorities. "

of course not.

he just lets our minorities die like dogs while stranded in a trapped city cut off by a foreseeable natural disaster

because he was too busy with photo ops related to the $ Billions per Month spent bombing and shooting brownish-hued people in the one nominally secular and westernized middle eastern country which is now being dismantled, broken and driven back into the stone age

thus setting the stage for the unchecked rise of an Islamicist Theocracy in the resulting power vacuum we created.

never mind that to fund this war we go deeper and deeper into debt with China . never mind our decaying infrastructure. never mind the loss of technical and manufacturing jobs overseas. Never mind the declining math and science ability of our school children. Never mind the impending collapse of social security. never mind that millions cant afford healthcare. never mind the collapse of our financial markets and the devaluation of the dollar.

we dont need to worry about that stuff. because we're righteous in the eyes of the Lord. Jesus will take care of us.

Now let us prey.

3/25/2008 2:16:38 PM

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"he just lets our minorities die like dogs while stranded in a trapped city cut off by a foreseeable natural disaster"

The elderly are a minority?

3/25/2008 2:19:53 PM

ok, terrific.

[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 2:21 PM. Reason : I need to learn to stay out of the loony threads]

3/25/2008 2:20:19 PM

^ so... since you can't dispute the facts as presented... you'll disappear in a puff of ad hom.

nice.

i've taught you well, grasshopper.






[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/25/2008 2:20:35 PM

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"DaBird: yeah but there is no way to compare Bush's bastardisms to Saddam's. there is a HUGE difference. Bush isnt genociding people in his own country. Bush isnt gassing minorities. you cant argue that."

Actually, there is a way to compare the two.

You start by acknowledging that Saddam was the leader in Iraq and Bush in the US.

The expectations for the two positions are just a little bit different.

In other words, to claim that Bush is somehow less of a bastard than Saddam is a correct comparison.

That comparison is also offensive to the United States of America.

Or do you consider us similar to Iraq?

3/25/2008 2:24:34 PM

I'm sitting here greased up with my pants off waiting for someone to bring up Hitler.

3/25/2008 2:39:45 PM

Do you know who else like to sit around greased up with his pants off?

3/25/2008 2:41:23 PM

Ohhhhhhhh yeahhhhhh. That hits the spot.

3/25/2008 2:45:48 PM

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"^ so... since you can't dispute the facts as presented... you'll disappear in a puff of ad hom. nice. i've taught you well, grasshopper. "

nah, you just cant have a reasonably pleasent conversation with a radical. I dont come to the SB to test my blood pressure...I just like hearing different sides of things and discussing them. I hate the morons on here that have to make their e-peens bigger by insulting everyone with a different opinion and who are unable or unwilling to even hear a different perspective.

and

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"I need to learn to stay out of the loony threads"

[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 2:54 PM. Reason : ...]

3/25/2008 2:46:59 PM

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"so... since you can't dispute the facts as presented... you'll disappear in a puff of ad hom"

:rolly:

3/25/2008 3:23:32 PM

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"of course not. he just lets our minorities die like dogs while stranded in a trapped city cut off by a foreseeable natural disaster because he was too busy with photo ops related to the $ Billions per Month spent bombing and shooting brownish-hued people in the one nominally secular and westernized middle eastern country which is now being dismantled, broken and driven back into the stone age thus setting the stage for the unchecked rise of an Islamicist Theocracy in the resulting power vacuum we created. never mind that to fund this war we go deeper and deeper into debt with China . never mind our decaying infrastructure. never mind the loss of technical and manufacturing jobs overseas. Never mind the declining math and science ability of our school children. Never mind the impending collapse of social security. never mind that millions cant afford healthcare. never mind the collapse of our financial markets and the devaluation of the dollar. we dont need to worry about that stuff. because we're righteous in the eyes of the Lord. Jesus will take care of us. Now let us prey. "

FACTS

3/25/2008 3:36:41 PM

yes, there are a lot of facts in there.

thanks for cutting and pasting it for me. i appreciate it. now i know the mental exertion has strained your capabilities, so perhaps you should go take a nap for a while.

3/25/2008 3:40:22 PM

you are making my nipples hard.

3/25/2008 3:50:21 PM

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"the only ones profiting are war contractor buddies of Cheney and pals, along with the rabid right-wing fundamentalist Christian fascists who want to drive the world into an apocalyptic religious conflagration to fulfill their twisted ideology based on their dominionist interpretation of The Revelation of St. John."

3/25/2008 4:06:00 PM

With all honesty, I see nothing wrong with anything he said whether the war was designed this way or not.

3/25/2008 4:23:01 PM

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"so you dont feel that we have a duty as Americans to rid the world of its bastards?"

Duty?

*whips out Constitution*

Duty as Americans....duty as Americans...let me see...

No.

It's certainly a noble aim and desire, and when accomplished selflessly and successfully, an act worthy of celebration.

But by no means is it now or has it ever been our duty.

3/25/2008 4:45:27 PM

Twista, bad picture...Mel Gibson was right.

3/25/2008 4:53:23 PM

Hey, you know who really likes fascism. . .




[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

3/25/2008 4:58:13 PM

Random House?

3/25/2008 4:58:57 PM

Red X?

3/25/2008 4:59:11 PM

This guy:

3/25/2008 6:07:05 PM

Jonah Goldberg. what a joke.

it's informative how you think that zionist toolbag has anything relevant to say about fascism.

3/25/2008 7:20:15 PM

and yet, it's hardly informative that you dismiss him so seamlessly.

3/25/2008 10:04:00 PM

^zing

3/25/2008 10:06:42 PM