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pooljobs
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I can't watch movies on itunes without it slowing down and getting jumpy. My desktop is old, but i've never had a problem with videos in the past. I just recently reformatted and removed all the crap i don't use anymore but even a clean install of xp doesn't help.

I have a a 2.4GHz p4 with 1GB of RAM.

What should I do to make my computer run optimally? Should I just get a cheap desktop? I just bought a laptop, so I could only afford a few hundred dollars for a desktop.

3/24/2008 8:01:15 PM

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well your first problem is itunes

your second is the amount of ram that you have...get some more

3/24/2008 8:41:43 PM

synapse
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learn how to use msconfig (disable nearly everything)

get more ram

and yeah, try other video watching programs

3/24/2008 8:43:02 PM

pooljobs
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well the crucial scanner recommends two 1GB pc2700 sticks, so thats what i'll do first

3/24/2008 9:06:20 PM

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iTunes shouldn't tax that machine with a fresh XP install. There is either software on your computer that you're not aware of eating up resources or you have a fucked up XP install. You're not streaming movies are you... or using other applications in the background?

3/24/2008 10:14:59 PM

neodata686
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What resolution video are you trying to play? If it's 720/1080 it could easily get jumpy with those specs. Although i'm not up to date on itunes, so i don't know what resolution videos they have.

3/24/2008 10:26:02 PM

darkone
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I didn't think about high-def content. 1080i/p could potentially be jumpy depending on what the background programs are running.

3/24/2008 11:30:42 PM

pooljobs
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its whatever resolution itunes rental movies and tv shows are

640 x 480

[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/25/2008 3:35:12 PM

darkone
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^ That' shouldn't cause a slow down. Check you background processes.

3/25/2008 3:45:34 PM

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Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.0 (BETA)
Scan saved at 7:50:20 PM, on 3/25/2008
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3/25/2008 6:51:17 PM

neodata686
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wow it's really sad that i can recognize most of those processes off the top of my head.

3/25/2008 6:56:58 PM

Aficionado
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youre fine

get some more ram and a different media player

3/25/2008 7:55:45 PM

pooljobs
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what else will play .m4v

3/25/2008 8:09:29 PM

pooljobs
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well the RAM didn't help

does itunes just suck this much? it plays fine for 20-30 minutes and then the video starts getting very jumpy and eventually freezes.

quicktime is the same

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 8:35 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2008 8:17:46 PM

drunknloaded
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ccleaner + adaware + spybot + defrag + file cleanup

3/27/2008 8:40:16 PM

The Judge
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VLC

videolan.org

3/27/2008 8:49:10 PM

pooljobs
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thats what i usually use but when i try to play anything i bought from itunes it only has audio

^^all done (well it said defrag was not needed when i analyzed)

all other movies play fine. i can even high def content with vlc player. but with itunes it jumps around.

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 9:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2008 9:20:51 PM

ncsuftw1
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yeah i don't think anything else will play something you have bought with itunes since it is probably locked (i haven't used it in awhile so it might not be now?)

3/27/2008 9:51:18 PM

neodata686
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Doesn't itunes now sell non-protected music? I doubt they do with the movies, but i remember seeing something about the music. If you pay like .10$ extra you can get the non-protected ones.

3/27/2008 10:34:16 PM

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dude, you need a video card with hardware h264 support.

get one, the jumpy video will go away and you will be happy. RAM doesn't do a goddamn thing for video decompression

3/28/2008 12:50:56 AM

pooljobs
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don't roll your eyes, i tried what everyone suggested

3/28/2008 6:22:29 AM

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Quote :
"ccleaner + adaware + spybot + defrag + file cleanup"


I couldn't have said it better myself


yes itunes sucks that much

[Edited on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM. Reason : .]

3/28/2008 10:18:03 AM

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I think he's rolling eyes at all the people who told you something that didn't help

[Edited on March 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM. Reason : ^^]

3/28/2008 10:21:42 AM

Noen
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^ is right.

nothing against you pooljobs, you asked for legitimate help. These guys completely ignored your actual problem and just started posting the typical Geek Squad responses.

3/28/2008 1:40:35 PM

pooljobs
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so what cheap video card should i get

3/28/2008 4:20:02 PM

J33Pownr
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Have you explored the option that maybe your heatsink is full of dust, thus getting your cpu really hot and throttling itself down after the 20-30 min of decoding itunes videos? Just a thought before you spent money on a new graphics card.

Also what type of graphics card does your mobo support? agp or pci-e Price Range? ~$100

[Edited on March 29, 2008 at 3:08 PM. Reason : bla]

3/29/2008 3:03:38 PM

pooljobs
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agp, right now i have an nvidia geforce4 ti 4200

i do have some dust buildup on the fan, i'll see what my temps get to while playing a vide

processor temps are getting above 170 degrees F

[Edited on March 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/29/2008 4:46:13 PM

pooljobs
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lots of dust between the fan and heat sink. i cleaned out the mat of dust and temps are waaay down. around 105 degrees while playing videos and no jumping yet.

3/29/2008 5:28:32 PM

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Seriously....quit with the norton...

I use Itunes all the time for that....I have only 2gb of ram in my vista machine.

3/29/2008 5:35:46 PM

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