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Brass Monkey
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With the season coming to a close we might as well kick discussion for the next season off. Incoming Wake Forest commit Al-Farouq Aminu was arrested. You all better dangle hand cuffs at him when Wake visits next season.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/highschool/stories/2008/03/28/aminu_0329.html

3/29/2008 1:26:05 PM

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How about rule changes

I wouldn't be against some kind of rule to prevent 23489234 timeouts being called in the last minute of a game

3/29/2008 1:33:52 PM

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^^ That's some NC State shit right there.

3/29/2008 1:40:31 PM

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i'd like to see the clock stop after a made basket in the last minute or so of the 1st half instead of only in the 2nd half

3/29/2008 1:40:55 PM

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"Al-Farouq Aminu, a 6-foot-8 senior at Norcross High School, turned himself in Friday after being accused of shooting a female with a BB gun from a vehicle on March 14"



YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT, KID

3/29/2008 3:29:40 PM

Brass Monkey
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^



How do you all think them moving the 3 point line back a foot will affect the game? Speaking of rule changes, I'd like to see them adopt the NBA semi-circle underneath the basket for charge/block calls.

3/29/2008 7:23:25 PM

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It'll kill a team like Duke and really help a team like us or UConn who are built on strong front lines... so I'm all for it.

And it's about damn time. There is nothing worse than seeing a mediocre shotting power forward kill any NBA potential he has by shooting what amounts to a mid-range jumper...

A foot won't be a huge deal at all for the good shooters but it will weed out the marginal shooters who should have never been gunning at all in the first place.

3/29/2008 7:27:23 PM

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My way too early Top 25 predictions

1. North Carolina (I think Hansbrough still returns. The key is Lawson. He could leave b/c him getting hurt may have scared him, but he may stay b/c he did get injured and that may have hurt his draft stock.)
2. UCLA (I think Love returns and they still have plenty returning.)
3. Kansas
4. Memphis (they'll have an inflated record b/c of them playing in C-USA.)
5. Stanford
6. Texas
7. Duke
8. Louisville
9. Tennessee (they should have enough returning to still be pretty good.)
10. Michigan State
11. Florida (they should be much improved.)
12. Pitt
13. Wisconsin
14. Xavier/Butler/the mid-major of the year
15. Georgetown
16. Ohio State (like Florida they should be much improved.)
17. Texas A&M
18. Villanova
19. Third place ACC team (whether that's Clemson, VT, UMD, or hopefully us )
20. Gonzaga
21. Kentucky (they should be able to continue their improvement under Gillispie)
22. Third place Pac 10 team (Oregon/Arizona most likely)
23. UConn
24. West Virginia or Marquette
25. Davidson (the loss of Richards will hurt, but they should still be good)

3/30/2008 12:10:28 PM

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"14. Xavier/Butler/the mid-major of the year"


It won't be Butler, 5 of their 6 players who played 20+ mins a game were seniors

Also Brook would have to return for stanford to be that high



[Edited on March 30, 2008 at 12:22 PM. Reason : I'm just nitpicking at it though]

3/30/2008 12:18:42 PM

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Yeah I don't know what the status is on the Stanford players, but if they stay they will more than likely no less than a top 15 team. I just said the Xavier/Butler/mid-major of the year as kind of an indication that their will be a mid-major that will be ranked that high. I don't know who it is though. Isn't Xavier losing two seniors off of their front line?

3/30/2008 12:26:12 PM

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Yeah Xavier is losing their starting backcourt and best post player. Drake is losing some good players as well. It will be interesting to see who breaks through next year.

As for possible power-conference sleepers, Syracuse loses no one and get Devendorf back, and Herb isn't losing anybody at ASU either.

[Edited on March 30, 2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason : as]

3/30/2008 12:57:34 PM

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"2. UCLA (I think Love returns and they still have plenty returning.)"


Even if Love leaves and everyone else returns, they would STILL have a future lottery pick coming off the bench. Collison and/or Westbrook will likely leave early, but they have two 5* guards coming for 08-09.

3/30/2008 1:02:04 PM

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hahaha, us, 19? hahahaha

3/30/2008 1:02:42 PM

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Assuming Aminu doesn't lose his scholarship over the BB gun incident, Wake should be preseason top-25. That Smith/Teague backcourt combined with the frontline of Johnson and the freshmen coming in makes them potentially dangerous.

Us in the preseason top 25? Not a chance.

3/30/2008 1:17:24 PM

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Not sure, but I'm thinking he meant top 25 after the 09 regular season, as he mentioned third-place teams

3/30/2008 1:23:56 PM

Brass Monkey
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^^ yeah Wake could probably end up being very good next year, but those guys coming in will still be freshmen, and might turn Wake into one of the best teams in the nation until their sophmore years. I could see a lot of people putting them into their preseason Top 25.


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"hahaha, us, 19? hahahaha"


by no means do I think we will be the third place team in the ACC, hence the reason for the

[Edited on March 30, 2008 at 2:58 PM. Reason : ]

3/30/2008 2:57:59 PM

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so they are definately moving back the 3 point line next year?

3/30/2008 3:10:41 PM

skokiaan
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^no, it was just a joke

3/30/2008 3:14:37 PM

Brass Monkey
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^^ yes. it will be moved back a foot.

3/30/2008 3:19:58 PM

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Some somewhat big news. Darrin Horn, WKU's coach, will be named the new South Carolina coach to replace the retiring Dave Odom. Should Clemson be scared or not. The guy did just get his team to the Sweet 16, something Oliver Purnell couldn't do with one of the best Clemson teams in recent memory.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10751575

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"Darrin Horn will be formally introduced as South Carolina's next basketball coach later this week, a source has told CBSSports.com.

The South Carolina board of trustees is scheduled to meet Tuesday morning. The source said when the board approves a potential contract for Horn-- which is essentially a formality -- the school will then hold a press conference to unveil its replacement for Dave Odom late Tuesday or Wednesday.

Horn just completed his fifth season at Western Kentucky by leading the Hilltoppers to the Sweet 16.

He was 111-48 in five seasons at his alma mater."

3/31/2008 3:55:27 PM

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no love for the Sun Devils?

Harden -SO
Pendergraph -SR
Glasser -JR
Abbott -SO
Kuksiks -SO

with JR Boateng, JR Shipp, SO McMillan, FR Johnny Coy, FR Taylor Rohde and SO Woods coming off the bench

Arizona will be a very very good team next year.

UCLA
Arizona
Stanford
ASU
WSU
Oregon
USC/Washington
Cal/Oregon State

3/31/2008 5:37:36 PM

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[smartass comment about Herb Sendek]

3/31/2008 5:47:52 PM

Brass Monkey
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In another thread there was the discussion about where NC State would rank in terms of historical rankings. I thought we'd be at least just inside the Top 10.

Top 25 Most Historical Basketball Programs

1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. UNC
4. Indiana
5. Duke
6. Kansas
7. Louisville
8. Michigan State
9. North Carolina State
10. UConn
11. Cincinnati
12. Oklahoma State
13. Florida (their first NCAA tournament appearance was in 1987, and they only have like 14 NCAA tournament appearances)
14. Ohio State (they have a bunch of Final Fours even though some have been rescinded)
15. Georgetown
16. Michigan (they have 6 Final Fours, and should be here although the program has fallen off a ton b/c of probation)
17. Arkansas
18. Syracuse
19. Arizona
20. Villanova
21. Maryland
22. Marquette
23. UNLV
24. Illinois
25. Oklahoma


Other programs that I'd say have strong history are:
St. John's - 2 Final Fours (1952, 1985), 5th most wins, 7th most NCAA appearances (27), 7th best winning percentage (.680), 2 Wooden NPOY Award Winners, 11 consensus All-Americans, 6 members of the Hall of Fame

Kansas State - 4 Final Fours (1948, 1951, 1958, 1964)

San Francisco - 2 National Championships (1955, 1956), and one other Final Four (1957), remained a powerhouse into the 70s and early 80s before the school shut down the program from 1982 to 1985, due to scandal

Iowa - 3 Final Fours (1955, 1956, 1979)

Purdue - 2 Final Fours (1932, 1969) and the most Big Ten titles

Wisconsin - 1 National Championship (1941) and one other Final Four (2000). despite this they were were a mediocre at best program for about a half a decade and only have made 14 NCAA appearances.

Memphis - 3 Final Fours (1973, 1985, 2008)

Houston - 5 Final Fours (1967, 1968, 1982, 1983, 1984)

UNLV - 1 National Championship (1990) and 3 other Final Fours (1977, 1987, 1991)

LSU - 4 Final Fours (1953, 1981, 1986, 2006)

Texas - 3 Final Fours (1943, 1947, 2003)

Cal - 1 National Championship (1959) and 2 other Final Fours (1946, 1960)

[Edited on March 31, 2008 at 8:19 PM. Reason : ]

3/31/2008 8:19:06 PM

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Arizona will be a top 10 team next year

3/31/2008 8:23:57 PM

hgtran
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The Lopez twins are gone.

3/31/2008 8:28:38 PM

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1. UNC
2. UCLA
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150. NC State

3/31/2008 8:31:48 PM

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"Arizona will be a top 10 team next year"


Not if Bayless and Buddinger bolt....plus they have a coaching dispute.

4/1/2008 12:22:26 AM

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O'neil has already announced that he was going to stay on.

4/1/2008 12:28:55 AM

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"19. Third place ACC team (whether that's Clemson, VT, UMD, or hopefully us )
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Hi. It won't be us.

Thanks for playing.

4/1/2008 12:35:39 AM

Brass Monkey
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^ see my post just a little bit afterwards

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4/1/2008 12:39:53 AM

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1. North Carolina (I think Hansbrough still returns. The key is Lawson. He could leave b/c him getting hurt may have scared him, but he may stay b/c he did get injured and that may have hurt his draft stock.)"


Hansbrough stays, and we win another national championship!!!

GO HEELS!!!!!

[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 12:40 AM. Reason : ..]

[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 12:41 AM. Reason : quote]

4/1/2008 12:40:22 AM

sd2nc
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STFU you dumb bitch

4/1/2008 12:42:48 AM

ncsuftw1
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ROFL

4/1/2008 12:43:41 AM

sd2nc
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did you post that, ahaha

4/1/2008 12:44:19 AM

ncsuftw1
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no, lol

Quote :
"and we win another national championship!!!

GO HEELS!!!!!"


but they picked up on the jinxing idea, lmao

[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 12:45 AM. Reason : ]

4/1/2008 12:44:51 AM

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"STFU you dumb bitch"


why are you being so mean i'm just supporting my school

[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 12:46 AM. Reason : gosh]

4/1/2008 12:46:03 AM

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did somebody waste some money on this username?

4/1/2008 12:46:34 AM

ncsuftw1
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yes.

4/1/2008 12:55:02 AM

Go_Heels
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^^ i actually got it for free

4/1/2008 1:05:26 AM

Mr Scrumples
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If she goes here you can suspend/terminate/lock etc

4/1/2008 1:10:18 AM

sd2nc
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Sean Sutton is out at Oklahoma State....after 2 years.

4/1/2008 1:40:40 PM

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he fucking sucks

[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 2:12 PM. Reason : maybe we can hire him]

4/1/2008 2:11:47 PM

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Completely disinterest in college basketball next year.

4/1/2008 2:24:25 PM

Brass Monkey
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What is our schedule supposed to look like next year? These are the games that I know of.

OOC
@ Valpo (at least it's not @ ECU)
@ Florida on Jan. 3
ECU
supposedly @ UNO (would we play that in the Hornets arena?)
@ Davidson (in the Bobcats Time Warner Cable Arena)


Besides Wake and UNC who in the ACC are we supposed to play twice next year? Duke I'm almost sure is one of them.

4/8/2008 9:48:52 PM

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Collison, Love, Budinger and that dude from LSU declared for the draft today.

UCLA won't be near a FF team without those two.

4/9/2008 1:02:24 AM

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why in the hell are we playing at valpo?

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 1:06 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2008 1:05:52 AM

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I've figured it all out:

Lee Fowler hates NCSU athletics

4/9/2008 1:07:29 AM

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^^^Not official on Love and Collison, guess they are denying it. Whatever. They made the FF in 05-06 and 06-07 with less talent than they will have in 08-09, even if Westbrook leaves too.

4/9/2008 1:16:24 AM

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Holy crap, nice job opening at Stanford Poor Mike Montgomery.....

Quote :
"Stanford coach Trent Johnson has a verbal agreement to become the first-ever African American men's basketball coach at LSU.

Sources have told FOXSports.com a news conference is expected on Thursday.

Johnson, who led the Cardinal to the Sweet 16 this season, has agreed in principle to a deal that will take him to LSU, according to sources close to the situation."


Can't say anyone saw this coming...

4/9/2008 1:31:29 PM

Brass Monkey
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Hmm...I thought Stanford was a better gig right now, but I could see how a large state school like LSU could be attractive. Also you could go after pretty much anyone and not have to worry to much about academics being a problem at an SEC school like LSU. Tradition is kind of lacking at both schools. I mean it's not bad, just not great. I thought he could have held out for a more prestigious job.

Stanford
1 NCAA Championship (1942)
2 Final Fours (1942, 1998)
16 NCAA Appearances
5 Conference Tournament Championships (1936, 1941, 1943, 1979, 2004)
13 Conference Regular Season Championships (1920, 1921, 1923, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1941, 1942, 1963, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004)


LSU
4 Final Fours (1953, 1981, 1986, 2006)
19 NCAA appearances
1 Conference Tournament Championship (1980)
9 Conference Regular Season Championships (1935, 1953, 1954, 1979, 1981, 1985, 1991, 2000, 2006)

4/9/2008 2:20:05 PM

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