I don't understand it.

Call the guy wacko if you want. He's worth over $100 million. I think just maybe he's doing something right.

Incidentally, I've never heard him proclaim the feats of Xenu or anything like that - I've only ever heard him discuss what is at the core of Scientology: self empowerment (which makes a lot of sense)...far from crazy.

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 9:40 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2008 9:40:24 PM

scientology much

4/8/2008 9:41:15 PM

*INSANE LAUGHTER*

4/8/2008 9:41:27 PM

4/8/2008 9:41:27 PM

hes not worth 100 million anymore. his money belongs to scientology now

4/8/2008 9:41:33 PM

self-empowerment by giving all your money to someone...

sounds like someone went to an audit today

4/8/2008 9:41:36 PM

you do realize that you can't be a scientologist and not believe the rest of that crazy shit, right?

that's like saying you're a christian, but that you ONLY believe in "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" (which, i agree, is how a lot of christians see it, even if they don't act it)

either way, any scientologist is a wackjob, and that's reason enough to hate on them

4/8/2008 9:42:01 PM

Okay, fair enough.

But as a digression, has anyone here actually read about what the core beliefs of Scientology are? Put aside the insane alien story - it has little to nothing to do with the way they live their lives.

4/8/2008 9:43:32 PM

[insert crazy tom cruise video here]

4/8/2008 9:44:05 PM

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"Put aside the insane alien story - it has little to nothing to do with the way they live their lives."

see, i don't think you can objectively understand (or try to understand) scientology without the insane story...no, i don't think there's anything wrong with the other stuff (self empowerment and such), just like i think that, beliefs aside, the mormons have strong family values who are conscientious and genuinely good people...but they believe some crazy things, too

take away the crazy and these groups usually have a good side

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 9:45 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2008 9:45:29 PM

Yeah. That's all I'm saying.

4/8/2008 9:46:17 PM

Oh sure guys they believe in human sacrifice and cannibalism but just look at what great astronomers they were!

4/8/2008 9:46:56 PM

well, then, sure...the way that scientologists live their lives, and the non-religious part of their teachings are okay with me

but you gotta admit, no one freaks out over criticism and parody like a scientologist!

4/8/2008 9:47:34 PM

dude, their beliefs are that psychiatrists are evil and that you need to give all your money to them in order to be cured of mental illnesses caused by crazy alien souls from millions of years ago.

sorry. that's fucked up

but, humour me. What are these "other teachings" of theirs that you think are admirable. Is it the part where you sue the piss out of anyone who says anything bad about you? Or is the part where they will put you in a hotel room and starve you to death while letting cockroaches feed on you while you are still alive, all in the name of "curing you" when you go into a hospital in perfect physical health?

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 9:50 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2008 9:47:44 PM

Tom Cruise just sucks.

4/8/2008 9:49:26 PM

I'm not a fan of psychiatrists myself. I think any person has the ability to sort through their issues on their own. I think it's crazy to give money to a psychiatrist to be cured of "mental illness."

4/8/2008 9:50:18 PM

I don't hate on Tom Cruise.
But his wealth wouldn't stop me from hating if I chose to do so. Who cares what he's worth?

4/8/2008 9:51:41 PM

riiiiiiiiight. Go ahead man. Get schizophrenia and try to cure urself of it on your own. Let me know how that goes for ya. Oh, and lemme know where you are gonna be so I don't get taken out as you try to kill all of the purple moon-men

4/8/2008 9:51:49 PM

I just think the general goal is solid: a man can be his own god.

4/8/2008 9:54:01 PM

I've always hated him, so it has nothing to do with scientology.

I just hate him as an actor.

4/8/2008 9:56:07 PM

if only that were actually the general goal.

the general goal of the religion is to bilk all the money it can out of whoever the fuck it can con into believing its bullshit

4/8/2008 9:56:12 PM

No. It's not. Attempt comprehension.

4/8/2008 9:56:55 PM

uhhh. Yeah. That is the point. That's what fucking L. Ron Hubbard said. You know, the guy who created the religion.

4/8/2008 9:59:47 PM

Perhaps we have a misinterpretation of terms here. I'm referring to the practical, underlying lessons that scientology is based on, not the fact that it does indeed suck money from people to learn it or that the backstory is freaking crazy (...although, perhaps as crazy as magically turning water to wine). That is all I'm referring to.

4/8/2008 10:03:02 PM

and what, preytell, are these practical underlying lessons? Are the ones that say you should sue the piss out of people who look at you funny? Or are they the ones that say it's OK to let cockroaches feed on living people. I'm just wondering.

because there ARE NO PRACTICAL LESSONS. The whole fucking thing is brainwashing, plain and simple. They claim to have "practical lessons" when they speak with people who aren't in the religion, because no one goes out and says "hey, we brainwash our followers, hyuck!"

Check this out, dude. I've got a new religion. I'll tell you that the religion is all about being nice to people and helping out the homeless. But, when I get you behind the closed doors of my church, I'll skullfuck you until your ass bleeds my semen. Do you like the practical teachings of my religion?

4/8/2008 10:08:01 PM

because if you do, then perhaps you should try catholicism.

4/8/2008 10:09:18 PM

Never mind. You people don't seem to be making the connection here, or I am failing to properly put my thoughts into words.

'Nite TWW.

4/8/2008 10:09:44 PM

dude. there is no connection to make. Either you are batshit insane and are brainwashed into thinking that cockroaches feeding on a live human being is acceptable in the name of a religion, or you are sane. It's really one or the other.

4/8/2008 10:10:44 PM

4/8/2008 10:11:30 PM

Tom Cruise is one hell of an actor.


Just like Michael Jackson is one hell of a dancer.


Just like Miles Davis was one hell of a trumpet player.


this doesn't mean they weren't eccentric, weird bastards.

4/8/2008 10:11:43 PM

see i think tom cruise WAS one hell of an actor. i think he has kind of fallen off since he became completely crazy

4/8/2008 10:26:06 PM

L. Ron Hubbard was nothing more than a glorified (and money hungry) fiction writer who put together a wacked out story to attract weak-minded people and influence them into giving him and his "church" money in order to reach increased levels within said church. I think its funny that the only way to reach higher levels in scientology is by going through extensive auditing and giving more and more money to the church.

here's a pretty funny excerpt from wikipedia that just goes to show how wacked out their "teachings" really are:

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"Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy." According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects."

4/8/2008 10:28:38 PM

4/8/2008 10:28:54 PM

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"the core beliefs of Scientology"

nobody can afford to know them officially, but the basic idea upon which the entire business is founded is "Do what thou wilst"

ask blasphemour what else it is the foundation of >.<

4/8/2008 10:43:09 PM

Wyloch should try...





[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 12:14 AM. Reason : damn u safari]

4/9/2008 12:13:48 AM

I'll give him points for dedicating himself to his projects, as well as putting the work in to complete the tasks he sets out to do. He has had a few good to great movie roles.

However, he isn't an honest person. Just confess to the gay thing. He isn't "getting the ladies in the theater" like he did in the late 80's to 1998 or so. Nobody bought any of his 3 marriages, and nobody buys this "man's man" persona he puts off.

He is egoistic to a fault. He has no concept of true reality. He cannot see society for what it is. He has ideas, and they are based on his concept of the world. Even without the Scientology, he is weird. He is over-anxious. He is a poor decision maker.

Watch him run Universal into the ground. Maybe if people stopped talking about him, he would just go away. Stop seeing his films; he isn't what he used to be. His acting is his real life, and no longer what he is/was onscreen. His time has come and gone.

4/10/2008 4:36:32 PM

because all of the nerds like God, and his crew from the other big message boards are having some kind homo love fest with making fun of the scientology idiots

they like to rickroll the scientology peeps now, which is even more homo

4/10/2008 4:38:36 PM

4/10/2008 4:41:09 PM

I like a lot of Tom Cruise movies

He never did anything to me

Scientology never did anything to anyone, they just pretty much want to be left alone

I don't get what all the ruckus is for

4/10/2008 4:42:01 PM

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"Okay, fair enough. But as a digression, has anyone here actually read about what the core beliefs of Scientology are? Put aside the insane alien story - it has little to nothing to do with the way they live their lives."

I have and it's pseudo-science bullshit

^they def want to preach and spread their word and force their help upon "lost" people

[Edited on April 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM. Reason : k]

4/10/2008 4:42:16 PM

all religions do that shit


hell, I worship boats and liquor bottles and as far as I'm concerned I have the right to do so

4/10/2008 4:44:30 PM

tom cruise is a fucking whacko, thats why

4/10/2008 4:45:21 PM

because he endorses a religion thats lower than being mormon on the totem pole

4/10/2008 4:45:21 PM

I thought this was america

[Edited on April 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM. Reason : free reign to be retarded here]

4/10/2008 4:46:34 PM

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"all religions do that shit "

true but the real religions don't endorse their beliefs as cure for all diseases nor have pointless devices to do so

4/10/2008 4:48:33 PM

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"I worship boats and liquor bottles"

sounds like mid 19th century Irish Catholicism

4/10/2008 4:48:57 PM

yo btw i'm all for the government breaking up that flds thing in texas the other day...they did that shit back in like the 40's...thats what caused the twin cities...those places are automatically on my list of places not to live...bunch of damn wackos

4/10/2008 4:52:11 PM

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"Scientology never did anything to anyone"

suuuuuuuuure

4/10/2008 4:53:29 PM

So do Scientologists have any other crazy stories that they believe other than the whole Evil Xenu thing?

4/10/2008 4:55:12 PM

woo woo that dude is nuts!!!

4/10/2008 4:56:04 PM