Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
http://backhand.uchicago.edu/Center/ShooterEffect/shooter001.swf
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/opinion/06kristof.html?em&ex=1207800000&en=558f8ec768ff90cb&ei=5087%0A
Quote : | "The University of Chicago offers an on-line psychological test in which you encounter a series of 100 black or white men, holding either guns or cellphones. You’re supposed to shoot the gunmen and holster your gun for the others.
I shot armed blacks in an average of 0.679 seconds, while I waited slightly longer — .694 seconds — to shoot armed whites. Conversely, I holstered my gun more quickly when encountering unarmed whites than unarmed blacks.
Take the test yourself and you’ll probably find that you show bias as well. Most whites and many blacks are more quick to shoot blacks, no matter how egalitarian they profess to be. " |
Biased or not, my reaction time blows.
Your Score: 335 Average reaction time: Black Armed:713.4ms Black Unarmed:808.36ms White Armed:746.84ms White Unarmed:843.44ms4/9/2008 9:12:24 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89759 Posts user info edit post |
While it's true that Implicit Association Tests (IAT's) are used to find out whether or not people show biases, generally speaking the simple reaction time isn't enough. The reaction times for many people have to be taken into consideration, as well a statistical analysis run to assess whether or not there is a significant difference, power, to what degree, etc....
...just sayin' 4/9/2008 9:17:15 AM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
says the colored man!
obviously, i kid. 4/9/2008 9:19:03 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89759 Posts user info edit post |
but yeah, I've read a few journal articles where they use IAT's to show a few different things.
One of them dealt with interviewer - interviewee biases. It was found that the interviewer usually shows a bias when it comes to black and white interviewees. They measured this by seeing how far away they chose to sit from them when first meeting them.
Another one dealt with stereotypes, and the overcompensation of them
Another dealt with how we unknowingly treat people that are sick (as in illnesses that will kill you).
interesting stuff 4/9/2008 9:22:57 AM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
indeed. 4/9/2008 9:24:17 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 525 Average reaction time: Black Armed:659.76ms Black Unarmed:738.8ms White Armed:665.92ms White Unarmed:683.08ms
its not even about the skin color (couldnt even tell which colors some where). its about whats in their hands.
btw wait til all the stuff load, i clicked the screen a little to early
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ] 4/9/2008 9:27:37 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 435 Average reaction time: Black Armed:614.56ms Black Unarmed:704.96ms White Armed:535.64ms White Unarmed:659ms
Interestingly...I am more afraid of armed white men and unarmed black men if you want to take this at face value.
Part of the problem as well was the shitty pictures and me trying to discern what the hell they were holding half the time.
I should also point out that this was my second attempt. The first go round I was shooting cell phone holders and holstering the guns. I was like negative eleventy billion before I restarted.
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ] 4/9/2008 9:27:45 AM |
SymeGuy69 All American 11036 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 375 Average reaction time: Black Armed:752.04ms Black Unarmed:828.64ms White Armed:848.52ms White Unarmed:917.6ms
OMG I'M SO RACIST! 4/9/2008 9:31:20 AM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I started off with a negative score, which depressed me. I couldn't finish.
Quote : | "Part of the problem as was the shitty pictures and me trying to discern what the hell they were holding half the time." |
4/9/2008 9:31:46 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4368 Posts user info edit post |
Your Score: 475 Average reaction time: Black Armed:626.84ms Black Unarmed:838.4ms White Armed:650.84ms White Unarmed:673.72ms 4/9/2008 9:32:30 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 600 Average reaction time: Black Armed:697.04ms Black Unarmed:818.6ms White Armed:699.28ms White Unarmed:737.56ms 4/9/2008 9:37:39 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45166 Posts user info edit post |
Your Score: 160 Average reaction time: Black Armed:545.36ms Black Unarmed:596.12ms White Armed:546.88ms White Unarmed:766.36ms
i r teh suk 4/9/2008 10:09:21 AM |
Nrallen All American 13239 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 590 Average reaction time: Black Armed:701.68ms Black Unarmed:839.08ms White Armed:705.48ms White Unarmed:834.4ms 4/9/2008 10:24:04 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I just shot all the black dudes because i figured they would be packing heat somewhere anyway.
seriously though I got shot like 6 times
Game Over Your Score: 235 Average reaction time: Black Armed:660.08ms Black Unarmed:807.2ms White Armed:705.16ms White Unarmed:826.84ms 4/9/2008 10:38:13 AM |
DirtyMonkey All American 4269 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Part of the problem as well was the shitty pictures and me trying to discern what the hell they were holding half the time." |
seriously, could they maybe not have chosen the shittiest pictures ever? i think the test showed nothing about racism, and more about are you quicker at successfully determining if a person is armed or not armed. i was much quicker when i was sure that someone was holding a gun.
p.s. i can tell
from the pixels4/9/2008 10:38:49 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, those pics were def. photoshopped. you cant have that many gunmen in one spot. 4/9/2008 10:42:22 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Your Score: 465 Average reaction time: Black Armed: 743.06 ms Black Unarmed: 862.64 ms White Armed: 795.88 ms White Unarmed: 854.68 ms
According to the test, I have 60.78 ms of racism against black people.
I shot like three unarmed black guys in a row.
Oh, you're just getting out your wallet? I bet you stole it.
BAM BAM
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ^^LOL] 4/9/2008 10:44:14 AM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, was I not supposed to shoot the unarmed blacks? 4/9/2008 10:45:09 AM |
MeatStick All American 1165 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 445 Average reaction time: Black Armed:622.32ms Black Unarmed:709.72ms White Armed:581.28ms White Unarmed:725.44ms 4/9/2008 10:46:19 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: -1195 Average reaction time: Black Armed:105.84ms Black Unarmed:147.32ms White Armed:159.88ms White Unarmed:111ms
i hit z and / consecutively (well, more random than anything).
i wanna know if there are more black guys than whites on that test.
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ] 4/9/2008 10:46:46 AM |
DirtyMonkey All American 4269 Posts user info edit post |
^ johnny cochran to the rescue 4/9/2008 10:47:42 AM |
tsavla All American 6787 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Game Over Your Score: 410 Average reaction time: Black Armed:671.32ms Black Unarmed:725.56ms White Armed:656.88ms White Unarmed:705.32ms" |
4/9/2008 10:51:24 AM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
For the first 10-15 people I was moving the cursor over the person to shoot 'em. Damn you first person shooters!
Game Over Your Score: 490 Average reaction time: Black Armed:560.56ms Black Unarmed:702.04ms White Armed:584.64ms White Unarmed:749.36ms 4/9/2008 10:54:14 AM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
the game is racist, if you shoot all the black guys, and the white guys with guns, you end up with a score of 0 4/9/2008 10:54:51 AM |
ComputerGuy (IN)Sensitive 5052 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 555 Average reaction time: Black Armed:669.48ms Black Unarmed:710.2ms White Armed:680.68ms White Unarmed:699.68ms 4/9/2008 11:06:14 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 600 Average reaction time: Black Armed:529.92ms Black Unarmed:563.24ms White Armed:514.72ms White Unarmed:582.36ms
You guys have some really shitty reaction times.
Also, i'm curious as to how often a black innocent is shot in comparison to a white innocent. i shot 3 innocent blacks and one white. 4/9/2008 11:14:36 AM |
TheCapricorn All American 1065 Posts user info edit post |
I killed everyone. Fuckin' assholes.
Game Over Your Score: -500 Average reaction time: Black Armed:120.64ms Black Unarmed:123.72ms White Armed:105.72ms White Unarmed:163.4ms
Interesting that even though I just tapped the '/' really fast the entire time, there is a substantial difference between the times. I guess when you deal in milliseconds there is going to be some random noise in the average...
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM. Reason : ] 4/9/2008 11:24:59 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 525 Average reaction time: Black Armed:682.92ms Black Unarmed:1208.92ms White Armed:695.48ms White Unarmed:745.2ms
my fucking full screen alarm clock came up at 11:30 and it was on an unarmed black dude 4/9/2008 11:32:57 AM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Game Over Your Score: 600 Average reaction time: Black Armed:674.4ms Black Unarmed:828.88ms White Armed:691.12ms White Unarmed:725ms" |
I just went through it again to get a good look at the people. A good portion of the of the black people are dressed like "thugs" while a large portion of the white people are dressed in "business casual" clothing. I think it would have been more effective to hfiave everyone wearing the same thing, or a few different outfits.
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .]4/9/2008 11:41:42 AM |
f1001978 Veteran 315 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 645 Average reaction time: Black Armed:673.68ms Black Unarmed:775.8ms White Armed:729.68ms White Unarmed:742.32ms 4/9/2008 11:54:43 AM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Are you racist? Take the test." |
I couldn't concentrate for long enough to finish that long ass game but I leave poisoned watermelons in the parking lot of KFC all the time. I don't know what you'll make of that.4/9/2008 11:56:07 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 575 Average reaction time: Black Armed:578ms Black Unarmed:651.12ms White Armed:572.6ms White Unarmed:636.4ms 4/9/2008 11:58:41 AM |
furikuchan All American 687 Posts user info edit post |
Your reaction time is always going to be a little bit slow between armed/unarmed just due to your hand dominance and the nature of the task. In other words, for me, because my left hand is the one on the "holster" button, it's always going to take a little bit longer to process and hit that key, so my time for the unarmed guys was longer. Hmm, so what if we did a similar task, but asked people their handed preference? Interesting idea for a perceptual study. 4/9/2008 12:19:44 PM |
TenaciousC All American 6307 Posts user info edit post |
Your Score: 600 Average reaction time: Black Armed:656.48ms Black Unarmed:735.88ms White Armed:661.4ms White Unarmed:703.76ms 4/9/2008 12:25:42 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: -1215 Average reaction time: Black Armed:625.4ms Black Unarmed:603.64ms White Armed:689.76ms White Unarmed:626.08ms
What this didn't tell me anything!
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .] 4/9/2008 12:26:48 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
this is dumb. you have to look at whats in their hands, not their race. 4/9/2008 12:39:39 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 575 Average reaction time: Black Armed:522.12ms Black Unarmed:580.16ms White Armed:526.84ms White Unarmed:577.8ms
Pretty even numbers. 4/9/2008 1:09:42 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, I can't see shit.
I'd play that if I could see what they were holding better. 4/9/2008 1:23:35 PM |
aikimann All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
Your Score: 650 Average reaction time: Black Armed:656.8ms Black Unarmed:750.36ms White Armed:650.92ms White Unarmed:663.76ms
Looks like I gave the unarmed black guys a break. Though on one pic I had an IM window flash which I think explains that.
HIGH SCORE BTW!
But I feel like the error bar on these times due to only 30 people in each category (assuming even distribution) may be big enough to make differences in a lot of people's times statistically insignificant.
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ]
[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : ] 4/9/2008 3:09:53 PM |
LRlilDaddy All American 6511 Posts user info edit post |
are there really people out there that dont know if they are racist or not???
if you need a test for that, then maybe you have bigger issues.... such as being honest with yourself 4/9/2008 3:13:11 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Only two true tests for racism (for white people):
1) Do you know the specific number of black friends that you have?
2) Fill in the blank: People that annoy you? Answer: n_gger 4/9/2008 3:14:03 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
This test has nothing to do with racism and everything to with the ability to determine whether someone is holding a gun or a can of soda. 4/9/2008 3:17:23 PM |
Donogh5 All American 971 Posts user info edit post |
from the article:
Quote : | "Take the test yourself and you’ll probably find that you show bias as well. Most whites and many blacks are more quick to shoot blacks, no matter how egalitarian they profess to be." |
4/9/2008 3:20:38 PM |
LRlilDaddy All American 6511 Posts user info edit post |
are there any soda guns?
Quote : | " Well, first I was gonna pop this guy hanging from the street light, and I realized, y'know, he's just working out. I mean, how would I feel if somebody come runnin' in the gym and bust me in my ass while I'm on the treadmill? Then I saw this snarling beast guy, and I noticed he had a tissue in his hand, and I'm realizing, y'know, he's not snarling, he's sneezing. Y'know, ain't no real threat there. Then I saw little Tiffany. I'm thinking, y'know, eight-year-old white girl, middle of the ghetto, bunch of monsters, this time of night with quantum physics books? She about to start some shit, Zed. She's about eight years old, those books are WAY too advanced for her. If you ask me, I'd say she's up to something. And to be honest, I'd appreciate it if you eased up off my back about it." |
4/9/2008 3:25:41 PM |
swoakley All American 1725 Posts user info edit post |
^My first thoughts exactly. 4/9/2008 3:36:39 PM |
l24ch All American 639 Posts user info edit post |
they should have at least placed everyone in the center. half the time i'd lose points for being too slow when i didn't see a person on the screen cause he was balled up in the corner also they should tests for differences in left handed/ right handed. i'm right handed and i shot a lot more than not 4/9/2008 3:37:39 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: -850 Average reaction time: Black Armed:408.32ms Black Unarmed:420.76ms White Armed:430.48ms White Unarmed:416.16ms
i suck at this game i react too fast 4/9/2008 3:40:38 PM |
Walls1441 All American 10000 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 105 Average reaction time: Black Armed:689.96ms Black Unarmed:788.76ms White Armed:702.16ms White Unarmed:732.32ms 4/9/2008 3:44:43 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23254 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 650 Average reaction time: Black Armed:714.72ms Black Unarmed:785.72ms White Armed:712.64ms White Unarmed:766.88ms 4/9/2008 3:57:26 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
Game Over Your Score: 465 Average reaction time: Black Armed:604.32ms Black Unarmed:736.96ms White Armed:786.56ms White Unarmed:665.68ms 4/9/2008 4:26:13 PM |