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" RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have both signed off on a Democratic debate in North Carolina. The question now is when. Obama had previously agreed to debate his rival on April 19 in North Carolina. On Thursday, the Clinton campaign said she has agreed to a debate April 27, sponsored by CBS."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-03-nc-debate_N.htm

4/10/2008 11:13:21 PM

week old boss

http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/nc-primary-watch-why-is-nc-dem-party.asp

[Edited on April 10, 2008 at 11:22 PM. Reason : i just read this]

4/10/2008 11:18:34 PM

I call upon the frats of NCSU to streak this event. It would be epic, and who knows maybe not much jail time.

4/11/2008 10:56:23 PM

Where are they debating?

4/12/2008 12:53:56 PM

RBC Center

4/12/2008 2:47:29 PM

they are debating the best way to ruin the country

4/12/2008 2:54:10 PM

they both agree and say its john mccain winning

4/12/2008 2:58:01 PM

There's a ticket lottery for students right? Does anyone know how to sign up?

4/12/2008 3:29:00 PM

is it even set yet? as far as i know, obama suggested a date (april 17) a while back to which clinton didn't agree. then clinton suggested a date (april 27) to which obama hasn't confirmed either.

4/12/2008 3:30:32 PM

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"they are debating the best way to ruin the country"

4/12/2008 3:36:16 PM

I think Bush already figured that out.

4/13/2008 1:04:48 PM

nutsmakr your communist tendencies basically make your viewpoints irrelevant

4/13/2008 4:51:23 PM

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"I think Bush already figured that out."

4/13/2008 5:37:49 PM

they are still debating the date for the debate

4/14/2008 5:08:23 PM

I mean what else do they have to do on a Sunday night at 9 o'clock....

4/14/2008 5:11:11 PM

^^yeah
http://ncsu.edu/featured-stories/engaging-society/april-2008/debate/index.php

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"The Democratic Party has chosen NC State University to host the debate on April 27. Barack Obama has not yet confirmed the date. . . . . . . . . . . More details will be available in the next few days."

[Edited on April 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM. Reason : ^]

4/14/2008 5:13:00 PM

why does barack want to talk to a bunch of gun toting bible thumping rednecks? why does hillary want to talk to a bunch of gun toting bible thumping rednecks?

4/14/2008 5:20:43 PM

well, the debate would be nationally televised, so it would cover a broader demographic than that

4/14/2008 5:26:01 PM

Questions I wish I would see: "Sen. Obama, how long do you believe we combat troops will be in Iraq? In a 2006 speech you said that we should not withdraw before the 'realities on the ground' dictate. In 2007 you introduced legislation to begin troop withdrawal, but included a clause that would allow for an indefinate pause in redeployment. And in 2008, your senior foreign policy adviser said that your goal completing redeployment within 16 months of entering office was only a best case scernio and not a true commitment. So what is in fact your most realistic scenario for how long combat troops will remain in Iraq?"

Oddly enough, it's one that's never been asked.

Questions I expect to see: "Sen. Obama, do you....do you...do remember that time you gave a speech about the war in Iraq was bad? ..... That was awesome." </Farley>

[Edited on April 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM. Reason : ``]

4/14/2008 5:45:23 PM

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"they are debating the best way to ruin the country"

aaronburro

Winner.

4/14/2008 5:51:24 PM

winner? really? that?

4/14/2008 7:02:23 PM

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"I think Bush already figured that out."

So they are obviously debating the penny size of the nail to be used for the coffin.

4/14/2008 7:47:39 PM

not happening

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/2767375/

4/21/2008 3:36:33 PM

ouch

4/21/2008 3:51:21 PM

Congratulations, Democrats! Now, no matter which one of you wins the nomination, you've just lost NC. I mean, it's not like the nomination matters either way, because no matter what, neither of them can win, but it is kind of insulting if you're going to pretend like this is relevant.

4/21/2008 6:19:47 PM

From the New York Times:

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"Mrs. Clinton’s campaign issued a statement saying, “It is unfortunate that Senator Obama has chosen to brush off the people of North Carolina by flatly refusing to debate. But we are willing to move forward with another time and location for the debate so that he has no excuse for not participating. ” Bill Burton, Obama campaign spokesman, replied: “It’s unfortunate that the Clinton campaign decided to play politics with this — especially considering that Senator Obama agreed to a North Carolina debate long before Senator Clinton did, and their campaign took three weeks to consider and ultimately reject that proposal.”"

4/21/2008 7:12:20 PM

^^whoopty do...they are debating one less time...they've already had like 20

[Edited on April 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM. Reason : plus what marko said below me]

4/21/2008 7:20:52 PM

obama was just here last week at the fairgrounds

and i think hillary is supposed to be in charlotte next week

plus slick willy, chelsea and michelle obama have already been through in various places

so even though they might not be havin a debate, they've been in and out of here

4/21/2008 7:22:29 PM

Just because they don't have yet another pointless debate here doesn't mean they won't be campaigning here. Durrr.

4/21/2008 7:32:51 PM

plus

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"Senators Clinton and Obama have offered additional opportunities to be seen and heard across the state in the coming weeks and months. Both candidates have committed to attending our Jefferson-Jackson Dinner on Friday, May 2 in Raleigh. Tickets are available by signing up online at http://www.ncdp.org."

4/21/2008 7:33:48 PM

No, instead they're blowing us off to go to VINCE FUCKING MCMAHON?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/ap_en_tv/tv_wwe_candidates;_ylt=AgR_HgqbO7xs9fHL12V5uu5xFb8C
This is taking Everybody Sells Everybody to a whole new level.

4/21/2008 9:10:45 PM

4/21/2008 10:35:13 PM

If Obama wins and in four years is running for re-election, which the ballots read Mobama?

4/21/2008 10:39:59 PM

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"No, instead they're blowing us off to go to VINCE FUCKING MCMAHON? This is taking Everybody Sells Everybody to a whole new level."

Come now, they'd probably get better viewership among North Carolina voters on Monday Night Raw versus a WRAL hosted, CBS moderated debate anyways.

4/22/2008 3:43:45 AM

wonder if they're going to reschedule since they actually have to give a shit about our stupid redneck state now...hillary and obama are both like "sheeeeeeeit"

if they do they'll try to "out-NC" each other...I can see it now:

Barack: "I was eating a barbecue sandwich with some tobacco farmers and I told them how optimistic I am about Jake Delhomme's recovery"

Hillary: "Well I was at a textile mill and while I was volunteering an 8-hour shift, I realized how James Taylor was right when he said he was in Carolina in his mind"

4/23/2008 11:01:32 AM

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"since they actually have to give a shit about our stupid redneck state now"

i don't know if you've noticed, but both clinton and obama have been paying a fair amount of attention to NC in the past couple weeks.

4/23/2008 11:05:53 AM

they both paid so much attention, that neither of them could agree on a date for a debate

that will certainly change soon

4/23/2008 11:09:27 AM

i thought the deal now was that coordinating that would be too much for the other parties involved (or so i read).

both candidates offered days for a debate. neither agreed to the other's. it certainly doesn't look like obama will agree to one after the last one (maybe he'll surprise me and try to improve on the disaster that was the last debate).

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 11:11 AM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 11:11:18 AM

i think both candidates are going to be forced to find a date that works for both of them...if obama had won pennsylvania, probably not...but since hillary won i think that adds even more importance to the remaining states, including NC, so I expect them to schedule something...Billiam Clinton is already in Statesville today

4/23/2008 11:13:07 AM

See I just figured the chickening out of the debate was due to the fact that they were actually asked some uncomfortable questions in the last one. The both of them are worried they'll be damaged by right wingers like Stephanolopis (you spell it and in case you were confused that was sarcasm).

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 9:59 AM. Reason : .]

4/24/2008 9:58:47 AM

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"right wingers like Stephanolopis"

well i think it was pretty interesting that they had a former clinton staffer as a moderator of a debate between obama and hillary clinton

4/24/2008 10:00:53 AM

idk i'm pretty sure clintons camp knows they are not gonna win this state...seems like indiana is the next big prize

4/24/2008 10:12:06 AM

Obama would serve himself well to avoid any further debates with anyone.

The last debate showed that when faced with even the slightest reasoned conservative argument, he folds up like a sheet.

The democrats have two very flawed candidates going up against a liberal republican. Does not bode well for them... just ask John Kerry. .. another flawed ultra-liberal.

4/24/2008 10:37:22 AM

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"The last debate showed that when faced with even the slightest reasoned conservative argument, he folds up like a sheet."

so the conservative argument now is to repeat the same fear-mongering crap ad nauseam? i think the american people are keen enough to not fall for that a third time in a row.

4/24/2008 10:39:57 AM

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"fear-mongering crap ad nauseam"

Nan I'm not talking about flag-pins, terrorist pals or radical priests...

I'm talking conservative ideas....

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"GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected? OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. We saw an article today which showed that the top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year -- $29 billion for 50 individuals. And part of what has happened is that those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That's not fair."

I don't think the word "Fair" is even in the US Constitution. It's not the job of our gov't to make sure everyone's lot in life turns out the same as his neighbor. In order to punish the top 50 most successful fund managers, Obama is willing to double the capital gains tax on 100 million stock-holders...that's fairness?

Obama either doesn't understand economics and is showing his ignorance...or he does understand it and is playing class-warfare to gin up more votes. Eith way, a poor showing for a presidential candidate.

4/24/2008 8:09:49 PM

or he doesn't agree with the same economists you do. it's not as cut and dry and you are trying to make it.

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM. Reason : oh noes redistribution of wealth]

4/24/2008 8:19:41 PM

I dont care if wealth is redistributed, just as long as its not my wealth

4/24/2008 9:37:56 PM

i'm pretty sure by the time november comes around people will realize mccain is not as good of a choice than obama

i mean really...a 46 year old black dude that has some real potential to do some good in the world, or mccain...

4/24/2008 10:41:47 PM

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"a 46 year old black dude that has some real potential to do some good in the world steal a lot of bikes"

4/24/2008 11:12:11 PM