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sawahash
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I searched, didn't see anything

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/29/teen.charged.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

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FLORENCE, South Carolina (AP) -- A teen accused of plotting to blow up his high school told police that he wanted to die, go to heaven and kill Jesus, federal authorities said Tuesday.


Ryan Schallenberger, 18, is cooperating with the bomb plot investigation, police say.

Prosecutors argued in a federal courtroom that the statements are an indication that 18-year-old Ryan Schallenberger needs a psychological evaluation.

The straight-A Chesterfield High School senior was arrested April 19 and faces several state and federal charges, including attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. That charge carries a possible life sentence if he is convicted.

"His conduct is bizarre," prosecutor Buddy Bethea told Judge Thomas Rogers III, who did not immediately issue a ruling. "I think it screams out in his conduct that he be evaluated."

Defense attorney Bill Nettles said the request was premature, and that Schallenberger was competent to help in his defense.

Prosecutors want Schallenberger, currently at Chesterfield County jail, moved to a federal facility because they think he may try to commit suicide. His journal writings have become increasingly violent over the past year, prosecutor Rose Mary Parham said.

An agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives testified that the teen told a sheriff he wanted to die after his arrest.

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"He said death was better than life," Craig Townsend said. "He told the sheriff he wanted to die and go to heaven and once he got there, he wanted to kill Jesus."

Prosecutors also played a 911 tape of the teen's mother calling police after he smashed his head into a wall two days before his arrest. On the tape, she says her son threatened to shoot police if they came.

"He's not going to do it," Laurie Sittler told the operator. "He's just got a bad temper."

The teen left but his mother was scared he would return, she said in the call. "He's planning to go to college and everything, but I don't know what to do," she said.

Schallenberger was arrested after his parents picked up at the post office a package addressed to the teen containing 20 pounds of ammonium nitrate. They got nervous and looked through his room where they found a cassette tape he wanted played after he died, which they took to the sheriff's office, the agent testified. Authorities found his journal, which lauded the Columbine killers, after searching his room.

The 50-page journal contained notes on more than 10 types of explosives that Schallenberger experimented with and evaluated a year ago, the agent testified. It had a black cover and "Pisces" written on the front, and authorities have said it contained detailed plans to bomb Chesterfield High School.

Schallenberger's parents were at the hearing but would not comment.


Townsend also testified Schallenberger's mother called police to the home in April last year, when the teen was arrested for breach of peace. He said the teen became enraged and knocked over furniture after his mother asked him to walk with his sister to a grandparent's home.

Authorities also seized a computer that shows he searched Web sites for making bombs, a shotgun, carbon dioxide canisters, "hundreds and hundreds" of matchsticks, and more cassette tapes that they have not yet heard, Townsend said
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I dunno, but from what I understand Heaven has security that is almost as good as the airports, so I think he would have a hard time getting in.

4/30/2008 12:39:24 PM

simonn
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search harder.

4/30/2008 12:40:28 PM

sawahash
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did I fail?

4/30/2008 12:41:23 PM

blasphemour
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Thinking you can kill Jesus is like thinking you can kill the Easter Bunny.

4/30/2008 12:41:51 PM

GGMon
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Nice to see he had a goal.

4/30/2008 12:41:56 PM

TreeTwista10
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i mean the story is in other threads but i dunno about the 'wanting to kill jesus' part

4/30/2008 12:42:10 PM

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4/30/2008 12:42:24 PM

sawahash
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I searched the headline, and I didn't see anything with that...it's not my fault that people don't use good thread titles.

4/30/2008 12:42:54 PM

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well if he wanted to die anyway, just kill the spoilt little bastard.

one less burdensome body in the world/country/jail/etc.

4/30/2008 12:45:55 PM

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a simple bomb is not a WMD. those consist of radiological, biological and chemical weapons. fertilizer bombs are insanely powerful for their simplicity, but it definitely isnt a WMD by conventional standards.

the kill jesus part is awesome. if he wasnt so fucked in the head and homicidal/suicidal, he would be my hero.

[Edited on April 30, 2008 at 12:47 PM. Reason : .]

4/30/2008 12:46:54 PM

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^^that would make too much sense

[Edited on April 30, 2008 at 12:47 PM. Reason : ^^]

4/30/2008 12:47:02 PM

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MISSION STATEMENT

4/30/2008 12:47:43 PM

Fareako
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He can't kill Jesus, he rides Falkor!

[Edited on April 30, 2008 at 12:49 PM. Reason : yeah boi]

4/30/2008 12:48:33 PM

sawahash
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Poor thing though.

He's got some crazy shit going on in his head.

Plus the logic, going to kill Jesus. If he believes in Jesus then he probably believes that he beat death once, why not a 2nd time. He might also believe that killing himself is a sin. He should also therefore think that having the goal to kill Jesus would get you sent as far away from Heaven after he died.

But still, this kid was probably raped by his dad when he was 5

4/30/2008 12:49:13 PM

simonn
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it's probably just a ploy to get away w/ insanity. like in airheads.

4/30/2008 1:02:48 PM

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Quote :
"FLORENCE, South Carolina"

4/30/2008 1:06:37 PM

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"a simple bomb is not a WMD. those consist of radiological, biological and chemical weapons. fertilizer bombs are insanely powerful for their simplicity, but it definitely isnt a WMD by conventional standards."


You can get a WMD charge for a sawed-off shotgun. Retarded, yes, but it's a broad category.

4/30/2008 1:36:41 PM

Fareako
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^ Does a horrendous fart in an elevator warrant a WMD charge?

4/30/2008 1:39:19 PM

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"mass destruction" strikes me as meaning several buildings or hundreds of people, like a large fuel air bomb or large quantities of poison gas.

4/30/2008 1:41:54 PM

GREEN JAY
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matter can neither be created nor destroyed

4/30/2008 1:41:58 PM

Skwinkle
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The term "weapon of mass death and destruction" includes "any shotgun with a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length or an overall length of less than 26 inches." N.C.Gen.Stat. Sec. 14-288.8(c)(3).

[Edited on April 30, 2008 at 1:43 PM. Reason : the way the phrase is used =/= the legal definition]

4/30/2008 1:42:24 PM

Mappy
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I guess he forgot the part where Jesus doesn't like to stay dead for more than 3 days.

4/30/2008 2:13:57 PM

ALkatraz
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So if you kill Jesus, does he come back to earth for three days and then ascend into heaven's heaven?

4/30/2008 2:25:43 PM

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nah, that'd be worse than going to hell

he just instantly reappears at the gates of heaven

kinda like saddam reappeared in hell on south park

4/30/2008 2:42:08 PM

Fareako
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plz to embed:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LmsYd25uel0

4/30/2008 2:48:03 PM

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