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TKE-Teg
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Anyone else happy that the new car is slightly smaller and 200lbs lighter??

350hp sounds pretty damn good too. If they don't raise the price that much you can't ignore this car (even if the looks are almost identical to the current model)

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...article_id=6753

5/5/2008 1:39:43 PM

stopdropnrol
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yea i didn't like the visuals they changed on the car but the - 200lbs and +44hp sounds like a winning combo to me.

5/5/2008 2:00:06 PM

BigBlueRam
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TREE

SEBENDY

ZEEEEEE

5/5/2008 5:03:29 PM

Quinn
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I like it.

5/5/2008 6:23:02 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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except your link doesnt fucking work

[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 6:28 PM. Reason : i leave out words a lot]

5/5/2008 6:28:05 PM

TKE-Teg
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easy champ! yeah i know, it just goes straight to the R&T website. I'll try harder to find something.

5/5/2008 8:33:21 PM

1in10^9
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is it me or those cars just don't perform for the power they have? even previous model with 306hp didn't perform anything special. new 335i with same power and more weight is blowing its door all day long. why?

5/5/2008 9:58:12 PM

sumfoo1
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no torque in a heavy car.

if your car is a pig you need torque.

if your car is light you don't

5/5/2008 10:08:23 PM

1in10^9
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Quote :
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if your car is a pig you need torque."



ever seen E46 M3 torque?

5/5/2008 10:09:14 PM

BigBlueRam
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^^^^i think the problem is the link got auto shortened. try linking it again and manually doing the link code.

edit: this should work http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=6753

[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM. Reason : link]

5/5/2008 10:14:23 PM

arghx
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"is it me or those cars just don't perform for the power they have? "


At the risk of getting philosophical, I'm more and more conviced that performance is all in your head. It's all about expectations. My friend's dad had a Porsche 914 back in the 70's. He though that thing was a rocket... and they ran like high 16's(?). His brother had an Olds 442 which I believe was a mid to high 14 second car stock--nothing special today. I tried to explain to my friend's dad that V6 Camry's can keep up with that these days and he was incredulous. Also, was it somebody here who was talking about handling tests between modern minivans and 60s 2 seater sports cars, which were losing left and right?

Back in the 80's, a Porsche 928 had ~300hp (depending on the year) and ran similar to a 350Z and people really thought those things were fast. When I was 18 I drove a brand new (at the time) 2004 WRX, and I thought that thing was some kind of Enzo or something. I just drove one a week ago and it felt really laggy with very little topend. And the examples continue...

Face it man, 12's are the new 14's.

5/5/2008 10:47:37 PM

TKE-Teg
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^agreed.

Besides, the 350Z with 306hp can run in the 13s all day.

Quote :
"is it me or those cars just don't perform for the power they have? even previous model with 306hp didn't perform anything special. new 335i with same power and more weight is blowing its door all day long. why?"


It also helps that the BMW's engine is QUITE underrated

[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 10:54 PM. Reason : k]

5/5/2008 10:54:37 PM

1in10^9
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thats true, but 350z should be faster than what times suggest.

5/6/2008 12:20:39 AM

optmusprimer
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I wonder if someone could make a pickup truck outhandle a 350Z.

5/6/2008 12:51:59 AM

Polojal
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a big fat MEH to those headlights.. they dont look good at all to me. the fangs? it could be worse, but those look a little over the top as well. overall it looks like the same car/chassis with cosmetic changes (thank god for -200# +44hp though). regardless, i just cannot overlook those fugly lights.

5/6/2008 9:59:50 PM

FredNCSU
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Pologal- what is fangs to mean?

5/6/2008 10:04:27 PM

optmusprimer
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I wonder if someone could make a pickup truck outhandle a 350Z.

5/6/2008 10:46:57 PM

BigBlueRam
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i don't know about fangs, i was thinking more like molars. maybe incisors.

5/6/2008 11:15:56 PM

0EPII1
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Those headlights look good on the Maxima, but for some reason, not on the Z.

^^

I bet the Dodge Ram SRT-10 handles better than the 350Z. And the 450 hp F150... forgot what it is called.

5/7/2008 7:10:09 AM

swoakley
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^Lightning?

I agree about the fangs though, they ugly.

[Edited on May 7, 2008 at 7:36 AM. Reason : .]

5/7/2008 7:35:50 AM

BigBlueRam
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5/7/2008 8:18:33 AM

TKE-Teg
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^^if you honestly think that then you're smoking crack.

5/7/2008 9:34:08 AM

optmusprimer
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"I bet the Dodge Ram SRT-10 handles better than the 350Z. And the 450 hp F150... forgot what it is called."


I wonder if there are any other pickup trucks built to out handle a 350z.

5/7/2008 5:00:01 PM

slowblack96
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ive seen a yellow ranger do it at VIR . put for a manufacturer to build one that would be cool

5/7/2008 5:44:46 PM

BigBlueRam
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^^i'll bet an x runner won't! probably a suburban on 24's would though...

5/7/2008 6:07:31 PM

0EPII1
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http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=180817

Quote :
"Nissan 370Z
>> Internal code name C53D
>> dramatically different front head lights (with use of LEDs)
>> expect around 333ps
>> will use the VQ37VHR
>> designed to meet stricter emission standards
>> Steering wheel will have the "Z" emblem on it
>> expect official announcement around November 08"






5/7/2008 7:00:34 PM

tchenku
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LED headlamps?? probably just the turn signals?

5/7/2008 7:52:02 PM

optmusprimer
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"Toyota says it used the Nissan 350Z as a benchmark for the X-Runner’s handling performance. “I wanted it to out-perform not only all competitive sport trucks but also many sports cars,” said Yuichiro Obu, chief engineer on the Tacoma project at the vehicle’s introduction to the press last year. “During extensive testing, the X-Runner’s road-holding ability was measured in excess of 0.9g, which is better than the Z.”"


pwnt

5/7/2008 10:03:39 PM

arghx
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I'm not down with those headlights either.

5/8/2008 12:40:49 AM

H8R
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more junk by nissan

5/8/2008 12:57:29 AM

TKE-Teg
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^^^Joel you've pwnt nothing, and nobody.

Put them both on a track and the 350Z will win every time. Just b/c it can pull 0.9 on a skidpad doesn't mean it has superior handling.

I'll see if I can find lane change and slalom speeds/times for both.

5/8/2008 12:25:16 PM

MattJM321
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solid axle

5/8/2008 1:48:14 PM

optmusprimer
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i pwnt ivan.

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"^^i'll bet an x runner won't! probably a suburban on 24's would though... "


im just saying. more power and the truck is running 350Zs down on the track. time for 2jz swap.

5/8/2008 2:52:46 PM

theDuke866
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200 pounds lighter, huh?

so it's...less of a huge bitch!


still, it's now knocking on the door of a reasonable weight for a sports car, and I could possibly, maybe get interested in one. i'm also impressed that Nissan bucked the seemingly nonstop trend for every manufacturer to make every car bigger and heavier than the last (with the C6 Vette and the MR-2 Spyder being exceptions that come to mind).

5/8/2008 9:43:41 PM

TKE-Teg
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I've seen idiots on other forums suggesting that the new 350Z will be close to the performance of the LS3 Corvette. Bunch of morons I tell ya

5/9/2008 12:08:00 AM

BigBlueRam
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i was just joking, i thought that was clear by my suburban on 24's comment.

i had actually read that same thing about them using the 350z as a target. i never followed up on it though, someone post the other numbers.

5/9/2008 1:05:53 AM

0EPII1
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Nissan 370Z Image Leaked?
Or yet another good photoshop


Apparently a journalist took this pic at a recent Nissan event in Japan.

5/23/2008 6:20:29 PM

Polojal
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emphasized rear haunches as per usual, i like
fangs look slightly less aggressive, i like
headlights.. why? (nothing new)
and the roof line at the top of the window looks gt-rish, which is a bit expected for a tie in to nissan's supercar. i'll give the looks a 7/10. 8/10 to swap those lights out ha

5/24/2008 10:43:19 PM

TKE-Teg
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I don't understand why so many people don't like the headlights. They look better than the old ones if you ask me.

5/25/2008 6:56:32 PM

optmusprimer
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the headlamps are ok. the quarter windows look good.

5/25/2008 7:41:20 PM

0EPII1
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-silvia-240sx.html

Illustrated: 2011 Nissan 240SX (a.k.a Silvia)

Click above for fullsize pic.

6/25/2008 10:18:53 PM

TKE-Teg
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Reminds me of an uglier RX-8.

6/25/2008 10:23:30 PM

arghx
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I think after the initial shock of the indian arrowhead headlights they are growing on me a little. I now find them... acceptable. Not like the Z32 300zx headlights, which were my favorite of all the Z's (94ish 300zx TT with the later spoiler is my favorite Z looks-wise).

6/26/2008 12:24:31 AM

0EPII1
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Pay attention to the URL:

http://www.7tune.com/high-performance-z34-fairlady-z370z-to-get-g-nose-possible-v8/

6/26/2008 7:29:42 PM

TKE-Teg
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so much for an affordable sports car.

6/26/2008 7:42:48 PM

0EPII1
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no. if they bring out a v8, that will be in addition to the v6 base model.

6/26/2008 7:56:56 PM

TKE-Teg
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Oh, I misread that then. Thats good. Just the same, isn't the 370Z gonna be considerably more than the outgoing 350Z. IMO they need to keep the base under $30k.

6/26/2008 10:17:46 PM

Quinn
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Looks to be a great car.

You have to hand it to nissan they have def. evolved the "3XX Z" very well.

6/27/2008 12:08:37 AM

0EPII1
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^^ well i am sure they are pretty smart... so they will not increase the price by a lot. maybe by a grand or so.

^ yes, they have, however, i am still partial to the looks of the 300ZX Twin Turbo. (and the other 3 TT'ed japanese cars of that time)

6/27/2008 12:00:39 PM

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http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3982440

8/15/2008 3:44:26 PM

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