And this somehow makes the news? Give me a break.

I dont like his politics, but this is pure bullshit. How PC has this country gotten. He apologized for it too. WTF

5/15/2008 8:40:02 PM

Unless i'm mis-reading your post, I think we agree on this issue.

5/15/2008 8:42:41 PM

no, this "issue" is total bullshit. I couldnt fucking believe they had a segment on this, and actually found some woman on there to talk about HOW its offensive.

Things must be pretty good in this country, when people want to bitch about being called sweetie.

Honestly moron, when they first started the segment, I got pissed bc I thought they were talking about how nice obama is for calling a female reporter sweetie.. I was like.. giveme a break.. then I was shocked when it went negative. I really thought I was hearing it wrong.

[Edited on May 15, 2008 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ..]

5/15/2008 8:50:55 PM

I obviously don't like PC either. But I'm telling you, if a Republican had done this, the press would have gone apeshit.

You know it--you all know it's true. I'm not even going to debate it.

5/15/2008 9:01:40 PM

Drunknloaded would have said "look broad"

5/15/2008 9:04:59 PM

pussification of america: brought to you by your <insert home town> liberal run media news organization

5/15/2008 9:09:49 PM

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"if a Republican had done this, the press would have gone apeshit."

NOW would have a COW!

Pretty minor thing. Obama is a big gov't stealth marxist ..and that is a much more compelling reason to keep him out of the White House.

5/15/2008 9:25:52 PM

a "stealth marxist." lol. whatever. the dude's slightly left of center, but still fairly moderate ... Anyhow, it's the "Congressional Branch" of government who passes the laws, didja hear?

the real concern is related to *actual* presidential powers, and that there there will be at least 2, and quite possibly 5, Supreme Court Justices retire in the next 4 years.

McCain says he'll appoint justices in the mold of Samuel Alito.






















fuck THAT.




[Edited on May 15, 2008 at 9:51 PM. Reason : ]

5/15/2008 9:48:37 PM

I know. fuck that stupid Constitution. Who needs rights?

5/15/2008 9:57:27 PM

Was it a white woman?

5/15/2008 10:07:34 PM

This is a plus in my book.

5/15/2008 10:16:44 PM

After the press conference he should have smacked her on the ass and told her, "good game."

5/15/2008 10:17:36 PM

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"if a Republican had done this, the press would have gone apeshit."

our president really DOES go too far with what he says to press on a regular basis, and we rarely hear about that, just because he does it so much.

5/15/2008 10:32:19 PM

^ I also somehow doubt there's not a video somewhere of a Republican calling someone sweetheart or sweetie or darling or something along those lines.

It's amazing that someone would think to make an issue out of this.

McCain called a 14 year old girl a "very attractive young woman" and I don't think anyone in the media made an issue out of that.

5/15/2008 10:38:39 PM

Obama is a mack daddy that pimps black women and white women.

5/15/2008 10:45:01 PM

All this nitpicking by the media seems to be making Obama a bit more tense than he has been in the past, and this new "scandal" doesn't help him in this regard.

I wish we could see more of this Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdloPRuWR_4

5/15/2008 10:48:33 PM

Obama pimps white women with 54 double d's.

5/15/2008 11:54:42 PM

^^^^ And? Can you not even see the difference?

Look, I'm really not trying to defend McCain or even attack Obama on either issue, neither of which I thought was a big deal. But try calling a grown woman "sweetie" in a professional situation and see what happens--it's light years from simply telling a young lady that she's pretty.

In the McCain situation, I would have used "pretty" instead of "attractive"--but I would probably stay away from commenting on the appearance of people in general--especially women. In addition, just about any 14-year-old girl is happy to be elevated a bit in years and self-esteem by being referred to in a positive way as a "young woman."

Don't you remember the first few times you were called "sir" as a sign of respect. Well, it probably hasn't happened for you yet, but keep letting those chin whiskers fill in and who knows. . . .

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 4:35 AM. Reason : .]

5/16/2008 4:33:26 AM

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"But try calling a grown woman "sweetie" in a professional situation and see what happens"

Kind of like using the word "boy" to describe a black guy in a professional situation?

5/16/2008 10:14:48 AM

Affairs in the white house again?

5/16/2008 10:18:29 AM

^^

haha

IIRC, hooksaw was very adamantly defending that guy.

5/16/2008 10:21:53 AM

Not an Obama supporter....but this is bullshit.

5/16/2008 10:40:37 AM

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"the dude's slightly left of center"

slightly? c'mon!

"...and it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." -- Barack Obama

“Religious suffering is at the same time an expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the sentiment of a heartless world, and the soul of a soulless condition. It is the opium of the people.” -- Karl Marx

Someone needs to ask Obama about his self-admitted relationship with openly communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis.

Show me one Obama policy or statement that doesn't imply that corporations are evil, capitalism is flawed at its base, individual economic liberty is wrong, and the greedy rich owe the ragged poor.

He wants to raise the capital gains tax to punish a few super successful people, without a thought for the millions of other regular Americans who own stocks. He has the most liberal voting record in the senate...beating out John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy.

"Slightly left"? That's a laugh.

5/16/2008 10:58:28 AM

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"Show me one Obama policy or statement that doesn't imply that corporations are evil, capitalism is flawed at its base, individual economic liberty is wrong, and the greedy rich owe the ragged poor. "

well, for one thing his health care plan is not a single payer system, but focuses more on making private and/or public insurance open for all. this is a far more capitalist plan than many on the left.

5/16/2008 11:14:57 AM

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"Someone needs to ask Obama about his self-admitted relationship with openly communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis."

WHY DOES THIS MATTER?

5/16/2008 11:21:03 AM

because we need to pick up where mccarthy left off.

the red menace is at work in our own country!

5/16/2008 11:26:23 AM

You know, I'm a chick and I'm offended that this is being made into an issue. Who gives a shit, honestly.

5/16/2008 11:32:58 AM

excessive political correctness annoys the fuck out of me.

can we please talk about the real merits and flaws of the candidates/parties, or does it always have to degenerate into schoolyard taunts and bumbersticker one liners?

5/16/2008 11:36:13 AM

It does, because sadly the general public is still a great unwashed mass. Believe it or not, the debate here on TWW's Soap Box forum is relatively high brow and being put forth by people who are more intelligent and better educated than the majority of the voting public. Think about that for a second and then be afraid, be very afraid. There are people on here who honestly believe that he Iraq war is going just peachy and others that think that the wealthiest American's still aren't paying "their fair share" of taxes.

5/16/2008 12:36:25 PM

add me to the second group

5/16/2008 1:14:22 PM

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"the red menace is at work in our own country!"

the sad thing is you dont realize that your sarcastic remark is actually true

that, or you don't think its a big deal, which is also sad

5/16/2008 1:52:35 PM

please enlighten me

5/16/2008 2:19:22 PM

5/16/2008 2:20:53 PM

^^well first, which is it? do you not think its true or do you not think its a big deal?

5/16/2008 3:02:35 PM

i would like to know what the red menace was that you're referring to

5/16/2008 3:18:47 PM

communist thought

5/16/2008 3:21:17 PM

i don't think that any thoughts are a menace.

5/16/2008 3:22:13 PM

thoughts in themselves arent

but thoughts put into action certainly could be...for example, obama promising bank accounts with money in them for everyone

5/16/2008 3:24:16 PM

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"for example, obama promising bank accounts with money in them for everyone"

are you making a reference to something? or is this just some wild communist nightmare you've conjured up?

i don't see our country as becoming communistic, at least not in any way that's even CLOSE to being dangerous.

5/16/2008 3:25:56 PM

Arrogant and Elitist.

I am not faulting him for saying that, it was an innocent mistake. The thing is he is fighting an certain image that is not going to appeal to a lot of voters. This incident just adds
to that image.

5/16/2008 3:27:47 PM

^^i'll try to find a link...they were playing a bunch of audio from one of obama's speeches yesterday on the news and he promised savings accounts to everyone, with some money already in them

glad to see you agree its a wild communist nightmare though

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"i don't see our country as becoming communistic, at least not in any way that's even CLOSE to being dangerous."

so it was the latter ("that, or you don't think its a big deal, which is also sad")

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 3:29 PM. Reason : looking for link...]

5/16/2008 3:28:52 PM

Once again Tree misses the point entirely.

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Those I's represent pillars. Put 4 and 1 together.

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lol

5/16/2008 3:29:41 PM

another moronic one-liner by boonedocks

with no explanation, obviously

but you dont think its relevant that one of the presidential frontrunners has communist friends

i'm sure his next post will be no different

5/16/2008 3:31:11 PM

And even the dumbed-down explanation goes over his head.

5/16/2008 3:33:27 PM

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"WHY DOES THIS MATTER?"

clearly this is just guilt by association...its completely irrelevant when trying to ascertain a presidential candidate's views and policies, to bring up any communists or anti american racists like Davis or Wright...obviously none of them had a single influence on Obama's way of thinking...lets just try and distance Obama from these questionable folks...that is until Obama is again forced to throw one of his friends under the bus in an effort to not seem like a socialist

also boonedocks its good to see you making a lot of intelligent well-thought out posts in this thread and not resorting to some one-liners of sarcasm and/or all caps...you know, since you're the model poster, and only OTHER people troll

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 3:45 PM. Reason : .]

5/16/2008 3:44:09 PM

My wife is a registered republican.

Clearly her politics have rubbed off on me.

And it would be safe to assume things about me based on her politics.

5/16/2008 3:46:11 PM

and bush has dictator friends.

believe it or not, you can know people without adopting their ideals.

5/16/2008 3:47:16 PM

^^was your wife your mentor and spiritual advisor for 20 years, or was she your best friend in hawaii for 8 years?

oh yeah and to pull out another strawman from the boondoggle bag of tricks, are you running for office?

^"friends"...you mean people he has met through politics? or friends, like, people who he has confided in and spent years and years of his personal time with?

you guys are great at spinning things though

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 3:48 PM. Reason : not really]

5/16/2008 3:47:45 PM

Quote :

"was your wife your mentor and spiritual advisor for 20 years, or was she your best friend in hawaii for 8 years?"

(20-year adviser + 8-year friend)^10 = wife.


^He practically had Putin's baby a couple years back-- obviously he wants to turn American into an oligarchy run by corrupt oil barons.

OH WAIT

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/16/2008 3:49:52 PM

^^and again, neither of the people you've associated with obama have changed anything. they had ideas and voiced them. i don't think this is a menace in ANY way.

[Edited on May 16, 2008 at 3:51 PM. Reason : freedom of speech and association is a bitch]

5/16/2008 3:51:03 PM