have you ever actually just sat down and thought about them? the brain can trick itself into thinking something is SO real... and why do we have them? as in physically why would they occur? and people with mental illnesses, what do they dream? my mom has Alzheimer's, what does she dream since she cant remember much while awake now? does she dream about stuff she used to know/remember?








is this my first serious non sports talk thread ever on TWW?

5/20/2008 11:01:32 PM

I know what you mean, man.

5/20/2008 11:02:43 PM

I never remember my dreams, but I had one last night where Heath Ledger showed up at my house asking for a ride.

I was like

wat

5/20/2008 11:07:45 PM

what goes on in the dreams isnt that big of a deal to me, I figure people can come up with just about anything, its more how real they seem, while you are in it you (for the most part) have NO idea its not real... how and why does the brain have that ability?

5/20/2008 11:10:18 PM

Uh, it's because your mind is still active with no physical stimuli so it makes stuff up.

I thought we all learned this early on in life, jaybee.

5/20/2008 11:11:47 PM

yall need to try lucid dreaming

you know you are dreaming and you can do some wild shit in them knowing there are no rules

5/20/2008 11:17:06 PM

Lucid dreaming FTMFW.


Sleep Paralaysis FUCK THAT.

i thought my ass was dead. was so terrifying it felt like i was crying. i screamed for help.
oh
shit


i just fucking woke up. o m g. shit was nuts.

5/20/2008 11:18:57 PM

Used to get sleep paralysis often and I still hallucinate before/during falling asleep. I sleep with my eyes open sometimes, etc.

5/20/2008 11:24:40 PM

what is sleep paralysis?

5/20/2008 11:40:21 PM

dude i'm all about some lucid dreaming

5/20/2008 11:48:56 PM

how do you learn to lucid dream?

5/20/2008 11:59:43 PM

^^^Those hallucinations are usually a sign of lack of sleep (can be a sign of narcolepsy too), called hypnagogic hallucinations. Now what would be weird is hypnopompic hallucinations - ones that you get right after waking up.

Sleep paralysis is the loss of muscle tone that occurs during certain stages of sleep and is can be associated with hypnagogic hallucinations. In certain pathological conditions, sleep paralysis can occur when it's not supposed to. There's this thing called cataplexy in narcoleptics where the person will have a sudden loss of muscle control (like sleep paralysis) in response to an emotional stimulus such as someone laughing, getting angry or excited etc. while being conscious the whole time. How much would that suck?

[Edited on May 21, 2008 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

5/21/2008 12:12:10 AM

if you really want some kooky ass dreams, go to somewhere like GNC and grab some Melatonin pills and take one about an hour before you go to bed, they help you stay asleep, but they also give you the craziest fuckin dreams you can imagine. and you can remember them when you wake up

5/21/2008 12:14:26 AM

Ugh. Sleeping roughly the past few hours, not good.

I might as well stay up tonight and pray something interesting goes down on here.

5/21/2008 1:55:52 AM

the real question is do blind people dream?

5/21/2008 1:58:54 AM

The dog dreams and he's blind...

5/21/2008 1:59:20 AM

excedrin pm will fuck your dreams up too.

5/21/2008 2:01:27 AM

you pussies... you get sleep paralysis every time you go into REM sleep. what's so scary about that?

5/21/2008 2:12:21 AM

I used to dream about once a month, that was before 2008. I started taking Accutane for my skin. No weird side effects outside of chapped lips....except for the fact that I trip balls while asleep. I have 2-3 weird ass bizarre dreams a week. The dreams used to be me playing video games or hanging out, nothing weird. During the 'tane though, Ive been running around with lasers shooting at eggs, nightmares, dreams about people i havent seen in forever, and general weird ass shit.

The most recent was the egg shooting. I was on top of Dan Allen deck. It was caged in by some old dirty glass and the roof had some moderate vegetation. This egg was some weird smash brothers concoction that had canons on each side. I was running around with a blaster shooting at it. Earlier in the dream I was throwing a football around with Derek Anderson (browns qb) and some clown was bleached blond hair.

Trippppin.

5/21/2008 2:29:50 AM

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"how do you learn to lucid dream?"

Just google it, lots of different methods.
Success rates vary though, just comes easier to some people.

5/21/2008 3:27:56 AM

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"yall need to try lucid dreaming"

DOOT DOOT

5/21/2008 3:37:00 AM

a hot pocket before bed will create some messed up shit (literally and figuratively) also

5/21/2008 5:36:33 AM

You know one thing I've wondered? I've wondered what the dreams look like of people who have been blind their entire life.

5/21/2008 5:54:09 AM

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"Sleep Paralaysis FUCK THAT."

first time this has happened to me in a long time... random that this thread was at the top (or am i still dreaming )

for those of you who don't know what sleep paralysis is:
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i'm going to attempt going back to sleep now.

5/21/2008 6:01:55 AM

I have never heard of this, or experienced it, but apparently its really damn common because everyone else in this thread has had it happen...

5/21/2008 11:15:02 AM

I've had a couple times over the last few years, it was like my mind was trying to wake/get up but I couldnt move, crazy shit


I always wonder what dogs dream about, or what they even think about since people usually dream/think in words, but they cant speak so how does their mind work

5/21/2008 11:19:39 AM

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"you get sleep paralysis every time you go into REM sleep. what's so scary about that?"

oh and some drugs cause you to remember your dreams better and have weirder ones than normal (like lamictal). i remember at least 2-3 dreams every night, and 95% of the time they're absolutely ridiculous.

5/21/2008 11:20:45 AM

i had a dream monday night that i was out to eat with some friends and they all ordered the same thing and it looked amazing. but everytime i went up to order i forgot what to ask for. so i'd have to walk back, ask them again, and then go back to the counter. i never got it

5/21/2008 11:21:34 AM

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"How can our dreaming selves accept as real so many settings, images and events that in waking life, we assume, would immediately jolt us into disbelief? The answer to this has been approached in three categories of investigation. * Depth psychology: the thrust of personality and psychotherapeutic approaches to this issue suggest that the unconscious “dream-work” is repressing or inhibiting critical evaluation of the dream in order to perform its salutary function. “Belief” in the dream symbols and experience is required for healing, personality integration or catharsis to take place. Lucidity can only arise if a person is relatively free of un-reconciled conflicts which form barriers.[52] * Physiology: “seeing is believing” to the brain during any mental state. Even waking consciousness is liable to accept discontinuous or illogical experience as real if presented as such to the brain. [53] Dream consciousness is similar to that of a hallucinating awake subject. Dream or hallucinatory images triggered by the brain stem are considered to be real, even if fantastic. [54] The impulse to accept the evident is so strong the dreamer will often invent a memory or story to cover up an incongruous or unrealistic event in the dream. “That man has two heads!” is usually followed not with “I must be dreaming!” but with “Yes, I read in the paper about these famous Siamese twins.” [55] * Developmental psychology: this approach suggests that the dream world is not really “unnatural” after all, since we were all dreaming as children long before we learned of all the physical and social laws that train the mind to a “reality.” Flexible imaginative concoctions may have preceded the more rigid, logical waking rules and continue on as a “normal” life-world alongside the acquired, waking life-world. The dreaming “I” basically accepts its world as natural as does the waking “I” its world. [56] "

5/21/2008 11:33:42 AM

I had a dream just the other night where this biker gang was outside my house yelling at me and they all had rocket launchers, but they couldn't get in my house because it had a moat around it

I went around to each window and yelled at them and mooned them then dove out of the way when they shot rockets at me

It went on for a like a good 2 hours in dream time

5/21/2008 11:39:44 AM

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"yall need to try lucid dreaming you know you are dreaming and you can do some wild shit in them knowing there are no rules"

Man oh man, I've had a few dreams where I realized I was dreaming, and therefore could do whatever I wanted with no consequences. One time I jumped all the way down a flight of stairs, pretty coo.

The only bad part of realizing you're in a dream is you start to slowly wake up (at least for me).

5/21/2008 11:42:27 AM

you should've spent that time bwning

5/21/2008 11:50:21 AM

it's thought that dreams happen because:

well, because your brain doesn't really 'shut off' when you go to sleep. However, your eyes are usually closed. So your brain just kind of wanders off and makes shit up since there isn't as much external information coming in. But all of your other senses work just fine. That would explain why you can hear/feel/smell/taste things in your dream that may be happening in real life. Your brain just kind of takes the information that if has available, and makes sense of it as best it can

5/21/2008 11:57:11 AM

^
+1

5/21/2008 12:14:04 PM

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"I hate dreaming. Because when you sleep, you wanna sleep. Dreaming is work, you know - there I am in a comfortable bed, the next thing you know I have to build a go-kart with my ex-landlord. I want a dream of me watching myself sleep."

-Mitch Hedberg

5/21/2008 3:32:04 PM

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"the real question is do blind people dream?"

a blind person said that his dreams are just like real life: he can't see anything. This same person explained lucid dreaming to me but I haven't tried it yet. Still rather confused, but I'll use google later and try to figure it out.

5/21/2008 4:04:44 PM

i regularly wake up in the middle of the night, jump out of bed and think something is attacking me

it's usually an extension of a dream and i'm sort of half awake for a few minutes... i'm fine once i wake up fully

once last year i jumped out of bed and crouched behind a chair waiting for a bomb to go off... i was cowering there terrified for a good couple of minutes before i came to my senses

5/21/2008 5:58:07 PM

Mom and dad came down to visit for the weekend today and before they got here I was paying for gas and just happen to see a word search book (doctor recommends her doing them as a memory exercise and she likes to do them) in a display near the counter and bought it for her almost as an afterthought. She made such a big deal out of it, kept thanking me for it, saying how nice it was of me etc.. Its amazing how $1.29 can go so far sometimes.

-blog

7/9/2008 11:29:58 PM

a new(ish) theory i read says the dreams serve the purpose of survival simulation

psychological training of sorts

think biological video games

interesting shit

dream of consciousness
i recently dreamt my last ex girlfriend showed up to my uncles house and proceeded to turn into a man version of herself. i turned a ring around (that i neither own nor wear) and beat the shit out of her/him on the front lawn. (i don't fight) cops showed up. some guy i used to work with was smoking on the back of a truck. then a couple military dudes appeared and "stapled" my neck from behind, then escorted my uncle and mom (dressed in a black leather trench coat and carrying a violin, neither of which she owns) slowly out of the house while i collapsed to the floor and fell asleep.

i woke up like "WTF BRAIN?"

7/10/2008 3:58:36 AM

last night was some crazy shit.

one of my dreams involved dreaming.

Like, I think i was sitting in a movie theater chair and i fell asleep. I remember in that dream I kept trying to look at my watch but I couldn't find my arms. I dunno how that worked. it's like i couldnt turn my head and when i tried to bring my arms in front of my face, there was nothing there. I tried to fly but I couldn't. Then I woke up in the movie theater chair and i was like "shit." then I woke up for real and i was like "wtf."

7/10/2008 4:43:27 AM

those are some of my favorite dreams

7/10/2008 4:45:07 AM

i usually don't remember much about my dreams...

however, the last one i remembered in vivid detail really fucked me up for a few days....

i don't like dreams like that

7/10/2008 4:50:20 AM

THAT sounds like an interesting dream, too

plz 2 share?

7/10/2008 4:51:38 AM

hell no....not on tww

7/10/2008 4:51:57 AM

you know you want to

7/10/2008 6:30:48 AM

try drinking your ass off for a week or 2 straight and quit cold turkey ... for some people, that can cause night terrors ... thats some wierd / scary shit

7/10/2008 7:00:06 AM

I remember about 85% of my dreams and about 1/3 of those I can remember very vividly. Of the ones I can remember full details about, I would wake up and try to remember what the dream was about to comprehend what the story was. Sometimes I would write it down or draw sketches of the dreams. It also helps that I have a photographic memory.

A few years ago, I had some sleeping disorder, mainly due to not getting good enough sleep from the uncomfortable mattress, and have experienced a number of times of sleep paralysis but not being in full REM sleep. It's probably the most unorthodox feeling I've ever experienced when sleeping because I know I'm awake, I could hear the real world like the tv downstairs playing or my clock, which has a distinct tick-tock sound, yet I couldn't move a muscle except for the occasional muscle spasm. I would think I'm yelling for help and inch my body towards the edge of the bed. This is why I sleep near the edge so I can roll over and fall on the floor to wake up.

I've also gotten those occasional falling down dreams as if I'm falling off a cliff or skydiving without a shoot and when I think I hit the ground or water, I'd wake up and practically do a back flip out of bed.

And when I was little, after seeing the Indian Jones movie, the temple of doom, I had a nightmare about my heart leaping out and all I could hear when I went to sleep was a thump thump, but what spooked me was that I could feel the minute movement of the bed for every beat. Kept freaking me out and my parents told me it was just the sound of my own beating heart. Didn't help one bit to know that fact.

7/10/2008 7:10:10 AM