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Wyloch
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The thin film resistor displays are allegedly better.

I just got my new laptop and this display is miserable. I mean awful. When I drag a window, I can't read what's in it while it's moving due to the motion blur.

It's also really blue, but I understand certain display types use different default phosphors that are easily customized.

On my old laptop, which had a 1600 x 1200 native rez, the quality was flawless and smooth. That was an IBM r50p.

Did they put the wrong display on or something? This sucks. It's a Lenovo T61p.

5/30/2008 1:49:41 PM

Arab13
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whoa, something is wrong, horribly wrong...

5/30/2008 1:51:30 PM

Wyloch
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I mean, if nothing is moving, then everything is razor sharp and fine (as long as I turn off that godawful ClearType).

DVD playback is abysmal using both WinDVD and PowerDVD. The quality is probably the worst I've ever seen on any display, regardless of size, resolution, or age. But I suppose that could be the software or the drive.

3D gaming seems ok. Gonna install Morrowind after work and check it out.

On a side note, Vista is quite possibly the worst piece of coding ever done. And this is coming from a mac-hating Microsoft fanboy.

5/30/2008 2:00:06 PM

Arab13
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agreed about vista, i refuse to use it as much as possible, it makes my gf's laptop crawl (newish t60)

5/30/2008 2:24:47 PM

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arent they supposed to be better in bright background lighting?

5/30/2008 3:00:20 PM

ablancas
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"The thin film resistor displays are allegedly better."


you mean "Thin Flim Transistor"

5/30/2008 3:10:28 PM

ablancas
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you need to make sure you have the correct drivers installed, and you have the OS displaying at the native resolution.

5/30/2008 3:12:03 PM

quagmire02
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"you mean "Thin Flim Transistor""


you mean "Thin Film Transistor"

5/30/2008 3:19:58 PM

Wyloch
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Yeah sorry typo. Transistor.

The 'top arrived at my door, I took it out of the box. It did some self-configuring, and then was ready for use. I highly doubt it doesn't come preloaded with the right driver. Actually, I know it.

5/30/2008 3:24:59 PM

ablancas
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haha, the whole time I was writing my ass-hole reply, I just knew I would probably miss-spell something, HAHA

5/30/2008 3:31:27 PM

Wyloch
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"the whole time I was writing my ass-hole reply"


How long did it take you, exactly?

5/30/2008 4:09:08 PM

Noen
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"godawful ClearType"


If you think cleartype is godawful, you must have some serious vision problems. ClearType is fucking wonderful, across the board, for LCD's.

5/30/2008 4:34:42 PM

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^ I've seen plenty of panels where text looks worse with clear type turned on.

5/30/2008 4:36:10 PM

quagmire02
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i, personally, adore cleartype...it's necessary on all 7 of the monitors i use on a regular basis

5/30/2008 4:47:33 PM

Arab13
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same here

you seriously get motion blur?

5/30/2008 6:00:24 PM

smoothcrim
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"If you think cleartype is godawful, you must have some serious vision problems. ClearType is fucking wonderful, across the board, for LCD's."

5/30/2008 9:20:07 PM

Wyloch
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It's a lot clearer with ClearType off. I thought ClearType was to smooth out text when you're putting out a rez that is not the panel's native rez. That's not the case here. It's native 1680 x 1050, and that's what I'm running, so it looks flawless with ClearType off.

5/31/2008 8:37:06 AM

Noen
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its actually the exact opposite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType

5/31/2008 2:55:45 PM

Wyloch
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I guess I didn't explain clearly enough. That wiki says

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"such as most modern flat-panel displays—can show strong aliasing artifacts, which manifest as jagged, saw-tooth edges (sometimes referred to as “jaggies”) when displaying small, high-contrast graphic elements such as text. ClearType uses anti-aliasing at the subpixel level to greatly reduce visible artifacts on such displays when text is rendered, making the text appear “smoother” and less jagged."


I am experiencing no aliasing whatsoever, because I'm running at the display's native rez of 1680 x 1050, which must be why ClearType looks bad when turned on.

6/1/2008 8:19:02 PM

Arab13
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aa typically makes everything better in most cases?

6/2/2008 9:39:18 AM

Noen
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"I am experiencing no aliasing whatsoever, because I'm running at the display's native rez of 1680 x 1050, which must be why ClearType looks bad when turned on."


Uh, YES you are. You might want to read about what aliasing is. What resolution you are running at has nothing to do with it. Everyone SHOULD run at native resolution on an LCD display.

Also, it's more than just On/Off. In Vista there is a tuning wizard to get the best settings for your monitor. Below is an XP comparison (the large font issue has apparently been resolved with Vista)



[Edited on June 2, 2008 at 10:48 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2008 10:45:14 PM

Wyloch
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I see what you're saying. It's particularly apparent looking at those large lower case As. Guess I just prefer that.

6/2/2008 10:55:08 PM

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