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nastoute
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/05/ignored.hitrun.ap/index.html

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" 'Like a dog they left him there. Nobody did nothing'

A 78-year-old man is tossed like a rag doll by a hit-and-run driver and lies motionless on a busy city street as car after car goes by. Pedestrians gawk but do nothing. One driver stops briefly but then pulls back into traffic. A man on a scooter slowly circles the victim before zipping away.

The chilling scene -- captured on video by a streetlight surveillance camera -- has touched off a round of soul-searching in Hartford, with the capital city's biggest newspaper blaring "SO INHUMANE" on the front page and the police chief lamenting: "We no longer have a moral compass."

"We have no regard for each other," said Chief Daryl Roberts, who released the video this week in hopes of making an arrest in the daylight accident last Friday that left Angel Arce Torres in critical condition."


i'm actually pretty tired when people try to claim this is new to the human condition

I would like to introduce these people to a combination of human psychology 101 and world history 101 and then maybe they can obtain a better perspective.

6/5/2008 5:32:25 PM

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i just finished watching the video...shit is crazy

6/5/2008 5:33:34 PM

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I hope the aliens monitoring this bullshit species we have become come in and utterly annihilate us if we continue to devolve to such insects.

6/5/2008 5:34:19 PM

nastoute
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IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS

do people understand that?

ALWAYS

people watch out for their own and do not like to stick their neck out

even when it seems heartless, cruel, or even if it doesn't seem to make sense

6/5/2008 5:38:18 PM

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yeah thats what i was thinking when i heard it on xm...they were like "no one stopped" and the first thing i thought of was "what do you expect"

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM. Reason : this whole fucking society is a "what have you done for me lately" society..its sick]

6/5/2008 5:39:32 PM

nastoute
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"this whole fucking society is a "what have you done for me lately" society..its sick"


again, no

not "this society"

humanity

everyone

you can give me blah blah blah about some other society, but no, I will not believe it, people keep to their own... sure, they may help their neighbors, but some random shmuck, in general, no...

6/5/2008 5:41:45 PM

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ok well we still agree you are just trying to be disagreeable

6/5/2008 5:42:44 PM

nastoute
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well, yeah sure...

but I am making a distinction

not America... not modern America

all people, everywhere

it does take a great deal of personal character to help another in need, and the majority of people just do not have it and the difficulty of overcoming objections to helping others raised exponentially as more and more people surround you

the effect of the mob is horrendous

6/5/2008 5:45:10 PM

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one and a half minutes. It's exaggerated, but wouldn't happen in most places. Only because it was a crowded place could people not do anything. If this were more out there, first person would have called the police and done everything they could.

6/5/2008 5:52:53 PM

Genki
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Shit, it looks like that car swerved over the center line to intentionally hit the guy.

6/5/2008 5:53:56 PM

nastoute
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"If this were more out there, first person would have called the police and done everything they could."


actually, if there were fewer people who witnessed the accident his chance of getting help sooner would of been increased

6/5/2008 5:54:57 PM

Mr. Joshua
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I blame GTA

6/5/2008 5:55:55 PM

TreeTwista10
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born alone die alone

6/5/2008 5:56:49 PM

mrfrog

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^^^ oh, well that's what i meant to say

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM. Reason : ^]

6/5/2008 5:56:58 PM

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I bet the majority of the people watchin will be voting for Obama.

6/5/2008 5:57:53 PM

nastoute
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oh sure, because conservatives are well known for their ability to help others

perhaps we should teach him a "fucking survive being hit by a car" lesson so he can then help himself

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2008 6:01:22 PM

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newsflash republicans...a majority of people in america are voting for obama anyways...stop pretending like you are actually going to compete come november

6/5/2008 6:07:13 PM

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No most, if not all the people i know, who are mostly conservative, woulda have made an attempt to help him. The liberals in the big cities are to concerned with what coffee they are gonna drink than to help somebody else out.

^ You'd be very suprised, only in large cities and california will ppl vote Obama.

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2008 6:42:09 PM

nastoute
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what are you doing?

being an idiot, that's what...

making this into a... whatever it is you're making it into... is absurd

stop it

6/5/2008 6:56:47 PM

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my personal opinion is that political affiliation would have approximately 0% influence on whether or not a person would help the guy who got hit

6/5/2008 6:58:09 PM

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wow. all of the liberals on here with their typical opinions.

you all truly don't give a shit about your neighbor. you deserve the country you want. you know that? you wouldn't even stop to call 911 or see if he's breathing? if so then you deserve to get the shit kicked out of you and I hope all your friends laugh when you ask for help


that's the true "CHANGE" you all want in america. the things that make it great and what it was found on: 1) freedom of religion, and 2) being good to your fellow humans:

and you scum constantly shit on those types of people.

6/5/2008 7:10:53 PM

nastoute
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what are you blabbering about?

6/5/2008 7:11:40 PM

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^ it's funny you ask.

you know the same good people and christians you constantly rail about? you're self fulfilling their prophecies that "men shall wax cold" and that they won't care for their neighbors in the final days.

kinda funny if you ask me

6/5/2008 7:15:07 PM

nastoute
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again

what are you blabbering about?

6/5/2008 7:16:35 PM

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^nothing for you. ignore it. just ppl like you who preach that you shouldn't care for individuals.

fuck em amirite!

in fact that's what you'll never understand. is that religion is out there to counteract the "humanity" and reality of our existence. religion is pretty much the only thing out there these days besides genuinly good people that teach you to help your fellow man.

everything else that exists pretty much says otherwise. that's why it's no suprise to some people.

don't worry, your brain will never be capable of understanding what i just said, don't rack your brain trying to find out.

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2008 7:18:57 PM

nastoute
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you understand so little...

the funny thing is that the people who know about the bystander effect (me...) are probably the ones who are going to be able to help the most

but you're putting in this weird religious context... which is utterly stupid

goodness and religion have very little to do with each other

i mean, take you for instance

are you religious... because you're kind of a dick

6/5/2008 7:21:34 PM

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"goodness and religion have very little to do with each other"


so your a dick that hates the religious? wow. you hate 95% of humanity. nice.

gg


i guarantee this would not happen in the bible belt if thats what your asking

6/5/2008 7:24:44 PM

nastoute
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yeah ok

you mean the "slavery belt"?

and it's more like 98% professed

and you know how good of a lot humanity is as a whole... right?

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2008 7:26:39 PM

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^lol. it was a way of life. you make it out like the south hated africans. the africans put them up for sale originally. and americans are the one's who freed them. the war wasn't fought over slavery and every historian knows that. .... and look how great africa's "humanity" has made it since then for selling them out.

oh. oops i countered you i think

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2008 7:31:35 PM

nastoute
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oh wow

that was the best post ever

thank you

6/5/2008 7:33:46 PM

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bottom line:

humanity at its core is good. but when northerners get too caught up in making a piece of paper(money for impaired) like you stated in another thread... that's when this kind of shit happens.

and that's exactly what religion preaches not to do. they simply say care for your neighbors. if you want to argue that and say they are evil go ahead.

if you want to claim your "field" or course of study has more to offer to help those schmucks in connecticut, then go ahead and try to help

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 7:36 PM. Reason : fixed for nastaut]

6/5/2008 7:34:14 PM

nastoute
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lol

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"but when northerners get too caught up in making a piece of paper like you stated in another thread"


and what is this?

you mean the constitution?

6/5/2008 7:35:49 PM

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wow. are you religious? why do you care what i am

you seem to want to get personal and attack me instead of see what some solutions are for this shit.

if you claim this is -just how it is- then call up your grandpa and ask him for some opinions on this story

6/5/2008 7:36:18 PM

nastoute
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omg

i've struck a fucking nerve

typity typity type type type

ahahhaha

well, i'm attacking you personally, because you're an idiot


and not, I will not ask "grandpa", because old people, through out all of human history have said the same fucking thing

that it's not as good now as it use to be

it's fucking ridiculous

6/5/2008 7:38:52 PM

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wow. just wow.

suspend?

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 7:40 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2008 7:39:44 PM

nastoute
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ahahahahahha

you can't steal my incredulity

get your own

6/5/2008 7:40:39 PM

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^damn. i thought i was pretty crazy in here. you just have no heart or no mind. your probably gonna die soon with that kind of mind. good thing nobody is gonna care when that happens.

6/5/2008 7:48:34 PM

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6/5/2008 8:12:28 PM

HUR
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sounds like a normal case of the bystander effect

6/5/2008 9:26:27 PM

Dentaldamn
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only 2 billion people are christians.

so then 4 billion are going to hell right?

thats awesome.

6/5/2008 9:31:14 PM

Vix
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We definitely talked about this in Intro to Psych.

6/5/2008 10:18:19 PM

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How in the world did this turn into a religious debate?

Yes, this is a problem all over the world. I've seen the same sort of thing happen overseas (person passes out from heat stroke, etc) and people just stop and stare in confusion. I wouldn't call it unique to Hartford.

6/5/2008 11:36:22 PM

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"you wouldn't even stop to call 911 or see if he's breathing?"


seriously, how many bosses would accept the excuse "Somebody was dying so I had to call 911" if you were late to work?

6/5/2008 11:54:32 PM

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Look Lovey, a dying man.

6/6/2008 12:45:44 AM

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