drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
6/13/2008 3:41:30 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
who? 6/13/2008 3:43:00 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
RIP 6/13/2008 3:43:15 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i fucking loved watching this guy...i dont have tv but i watched the netcast 6/13/2008 3:43:37 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
him and charlie rose are my dudes 6/13/2008 3:46:12 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
wow, very shocking. Best to his family. 6/13/2008 3:47:20 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
russert, shaeffer, and rose are all the shit imo...hate stephanopolis 6/13/2008 3:48:34 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
[Edited on June 13, 2008 at 3:53 PM. Reason : ...] 6/13/2008 3:52:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
NO HE'S REALLY DEAD! 6/13/2008 3:52:58 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
sorry guys i was doing autocad cause i'm a nuclear engineer and left caps lock on
just trying to make a funny in this sad time i wonder what sundays show is gonna be
[Edited on June 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM. Reason : howie kurtz on cnn now] 6/13/2008 3:53:42 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
No one on that network held a candle to Russert's insight, fairness, and intelligence. This is a shame. 6/13/2008 3:57:50 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
blitzer could if he wanted to imo 6/13/2008 3:59:17 PM |
HayleyToye All American 1144 Posts user info edit post |
RIP. 6/13/2008 4:07:46 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Not from CNN he couldn't. And no, Blitzer is far and away no Russert. 6/13/2008 4:13:42 PM |
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6/13/2008 4:15:37 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Immelt may have something to say about that... 6/13/2008 4:45:39 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
"I LOVE CHEESEBURGERS!!!!"
6/13/2008 4:50:55 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
I always liked Russert. He was fair and was a great interviewer. 6/13/2008 4:57:42 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
RIP Tim 6/13/2008 5:17:15 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
RIP
Quote : | "Breaking News Alert The New York Times Friday, June 13, 2008 -- 4:01 PM ET -----
Tim Russert of NBC Is Dead at 58
Tim Russert, the Washington bureau chief of NBC News and the host of the program "Meet the Press," has died of a coronary embolism at the age of 58, NBC has confirmed.
An earlier news alert stated incorrectly that the cause of death was an apparent heart attack.
Read More:" |
http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na6/13/2008 5:35:32 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
hmmmm first i heard heart attack, then cardiac arrest...now ^...interesting 6/13/2008 5:37:04 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Russert had just flown back from overseas. The flight and the embolism may be connected--but this is just speculation on my part.
The association between air travel and deep vein thrombosis: Systematic review & meta-analysis
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=434500
[Edited on June 13, 2008 at 5:52 PM. Reason : .] 6/13/2008 5:49:13 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
sad news. That is just to young to go. 6/13/2008 6:38:33 PM |
Smoker4 All American 5364 Posts user info edit post |
^^
I thought the same thing. DVT is a nasty problem that's not well-understood by many travelers. 6/13/2008 7:46:09 PM |
bcvaugha All American 2587 Posts user info edit post |
Very sad news defiantly a loss for all news watching americans 6/13/2008 8:55:47 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Edward R. Murrow will be waiting to greet him in that big Press-Room-in-the Sky. 6/14/2008 12:51:20 AM |
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Quote : | "Russert's internist, Michael A. Newman, said cholesterol plaque had ruptured in an artery, causing sudden coronary thrombosis. Resuscitation was begun immediately and continued at Sibley Memorial Hospital, to no avail.
Newman said an autopsy showed that Russert had an enlarged heart, NBC reported. Russert had been diagnosed with asymptomatic coronary artery disease, which he was controlling with medication and exercise, the doctor said." |
6/14/2008 8:31:56 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I had to Google it because I didn't believe it 6/14/2008 8:41:01 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
One of the few great journalists on TV. Meet the Press was about the only show I made sure to watch on a weekly basis w/ DVR, etc.
Who gets tapped to replace him? David Gregory? Chris Matthews will surely be in the running but is a bit combative and lacks Russert's personal touch when asking the tough questions. Chuck Todd seems too passive. I like Joe Scarborough but this isn't the right format, and noone else really comes to mind. Most of NBC's stable is full of lightweights, or people who are over the hill. Of course NBC could go the route of an unknown again, seeing it worked out w/ Russert.
[Edited on June 14, 2008 at 10:39 AM. Reason : .] 6/14/2008 10:35:21 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Matthews is right at home on Hardball. My guess is that your first inkling is correct. I think NBC's going to give Gregory a shot.
[Edited on June 14, 2008 at 2:22 PM. Reason : substitute teacher...] 6/14/2008 2:21:55 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
my first thought was gregory...he'd probably be a better moderator than having his own live show 6/14/2008 3:35:51 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Russert was a lightweight 6/14/2008 3:51:17 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
this was the first "celebrity death" (i cant stand the fact that i'm even using that term) that i've ever genuinely felt sad over. he was BY FAR my favorite political commentator and i can remember election night 2000 like it was a day ago. what an awful, awful day.
olbermann perhaps as a replacement?
[Edited on June 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM. Reason : awful] 6/15/2008 12:50:17 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
lol come on guy there is no way they'd pick olberman 6/15/2008 12:51:13 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I seriously doubt Olbermann since his show is one of the highest rated on MSNBC. I could see him as a guest interviewer maybe but not a permanent thing. 6/15/2008 12:55:44 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha "one of the highest rated"...dude still probably gets creamed by oreilly.....hes not even a true pundit imo...at least matthews is politically astute enough to fill russerts shoes...olberman would be a fuckin travesty 6/15/2008 12:57:33 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
FYI:
Quote : | "Who gets tapped to replace him? David Gregory? Chris Matthews will surely be in the running but is a bit combative and lacks Russert's personal touch when asking the tough questions. Chuck Todd seems too passive. I like Joe Scarborough but this isn't the right format, and noone else really comes to mind. Most of NBC's stable is full of lightweights, or people who are over the hill. Of course NBC could go the route of an unknown again, seeing it worked out w/ Russert." |
markgoal
I say NBC should pull in Ted Koppel right now. He has the gravitas and interviewing skill to be excellent in the Meet the Press chair.
If NBC doesn't choose someone like Koppel, they could go the other way. Pick a journalist or policy wonk with a fresh face but solid credentials.6/15/2008 1:41:45 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i hope they pick someone as interim host before they go and just try to pick the sub for him right this instance 6/15/2008 1:51:59 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm sure NBC will do just that. 6/15/2008 1:55:38 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haha "one of the highest rated"." |
Just because a show has high ratings doesn't mean everyone thinks it's good. Just look at American Idol 6/15/2008 2:04:17 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
ok i think you are thinking i think oreilly is good
which makes you dumb no offense
not saying oreilly is good but hes definitely better than fucking cambell brown or whatever her name is at 8pm on cnn, and better than fucking shitty ass olberman at 8pm....oreilly wins by default which is sad 6/15/2008 2:06:59 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I was referring to your comment on whether it has high ratings or not. I never said anything about O'Reilly. 6/15/2008 10:02:46 AM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
Hooksaw, did you read your own paper?
QUOTE: We found no evidence to support the claim that air travel (3 hours or more) is associated with an increased risk of developing DVT. We identified a wide range of estimates of the incidence of DVT in air travellers. Symptomatic DVT despite its prominence in the press is remarkably rare. Many published studies related to asymptomatic DVT, the clinical significance of which remains uncertain and needs to be ascertained. Interestingly, there was evidence of a small increase in the risk of symptomatic DVTs associated with all forms of long distance travel. This finding is suggestive that travel by land puts individuals at more risk of DVT than air travel.
With regard to passengers in Kraaijenhagen et al study [24], patients who travel more than 5 hours, no associated risk of DVT was shown. We believe that this finding from the analysis of this subgroup cannot be confidently interpreted. This is because the total number of patients with DVT who travel by plane was reported as 4/186 and in the control (without DVT) 13/602. Any subgroup analysis according to the length of flight e.g. 10 hours would further reduce the number of cases and consequently would reduce the power of the study. END QUOTE.
[Edited on June 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ..........] 6/15/2008 3:19:08 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Of course not--I relied on the abstract. I was hoping someone else would read the entire paper for me--thanks for volunteering to do the heavy lifting.
Quote : | "We found no definitive evidence that prolonged (more than 3-hours) travel including air travel, increases the risk of DVT. There is evidence to suggest that flights of eight hours or more increase the risk of DVT if additional risk factors exist." |
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=434500
Tim Russert did have additional risk factors and the flight from Italy should have been slightly more than eight hours. In addition, at the time, I was simply speculating--as I noted--prior to the release of more information about Russert's death. Had the incident at issue been travel-related, the type of embolism would most likely have been pulmonary--not coronary.
Travel-related deaths from DVT are less likely than the media leads us to believe, though:
Quote : | "Thrombosis can even occur in healthy people who sit for long periods, for example, during long drives or airplane flights, but thrombosis is extremely uncommon in this circumstance and usually occurs in people with other risk factors." |
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec03/ch036/ch036b.html
BTW, what caused DVT to occur to me was another early death of an NBC journalist:
DVT: David Bloom's silent killer
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/spotlighthealth/2003-04-11-bloom_x.htm
In any event, that empty chair on Meet the Press on Sunday spoke volumes. 6/16/2008 2:46:51 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
brokaw almost lost it on meet the press on sunday
it was pretty hard to watch 6/16/2008 10:57:00 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not saying oreilly is good but hes definitely better than fucking cambell brown or whatever her name is at 8pm on cnn, and better than fucking shitty ass olberman at 8pm....oreilly wins by default which is sad" |
6/16/2008 11:40:47 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "brokaw almost lost it on meet the press on sunday" |
when he did the breaking news about Russert's death on friday, it looked like he had already been crying a great deal. 6/16/2008 11:49:12 AM |
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^agreed...you can hear in his voice like 4 or 5 times i counted like a stutter/stammer like it took all he could to just not break down...did the shit live too 6/16/2008 4:57:10 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone else think the media has been downplaying is obesity as the major contributing factor? 6/16/2008 5:51:42 PM |
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pretty sure he is not obese...i mean he wasnt skinny but by no means "obese" 6/16/2008 5:53:02 PM |