just picked up an '03 taurus as my gas saver . it's a ford i know but i got it for less than 2k$. anyway the car is in great shape but theres one thing i'm unsure about. the guy who sold it told me was a "mechanic". he said he replaced the stock torque converter with one that has double clutches instead of a single. i know the principle behind double clutching but what purpose does this serve on an automatic? also since the transmission is designed for a single clutch does it add wear or screw up the shift point/drive train in anyway? thanks in advance guys

6/16/2008 10:40:07 PM

what? torque converters don't have clutches. it's hydraulic.

he could have installed a high stall TC, but i think he was just fucking with you. or he really didn't know what he was talking about.

6/16/2008 10:54:25 PM

that was my specific question when he said that. did you mean a high stall converter? he said no the stock one has a single clutch this has two clutches. i figured he knew some shit i didn't but sounds like i pegged him right as a "mechanic".

6/16/2008 10:59:07 PM

clutch pack?

6/16/2008 11:04:50 PM

what i've noticed about driving the car is that the tranny takes a while to down shift. the car will cruise a round the same speed with no gas for a ridiculous distance. when the car is warmed up the shift into second gear is kinda weird almost like it slips but it's more of a delay than slippage after that all the other shifts are super smooth. does that sound like a high stall converter?

6/16/2008 11:24:26 PM

i can't imagine that anyone even produces a high-stall converter for the Taurus.

6/16/2008 11:37:37 PM

that sounds like the tranny is about to die.

did you check the fluids before you bought it? is the trans fluid red?

6/17/2008 12:37:20 AM

yea checked the fluid and it was red. i did the transmission test put it into gear with the brakes applied etc. etc. and it seemed fine. like i said there haven't been any issues other than the weird 1-2 shift and down shifting, then again that coudl still mean the tranny is ab to die.

[Edited on June 17, 2008 at 1:56 AM. Reason : .]

6/17/2008 1:54:30 AM

the tcc is in the tranny, it locks a third shaft to the hub of the converter, there is nothing in the actual converter

6/17/2008 7:37:04 AM

W T F mate

6/17/2008 7:48:43 AM

double clutchin and granny shiftin



sometimes i have to double clutch the civik. but its got a clutch. and no power

6/17/2008 7:58:54 AM

is this car burgundyish?

6/17/2008 9:07:18 AM

lmao

6/17/2008 11:53:07 AM

if you shift without using the clutch you dont have to worry about it slipping

6/17/2008 11:58:38 AM

i think he meant neutral bombs = double clutching.

6/17/2008 12:54:43 PM

this car is in fact burgandy ish

6/18/2008 1:26:52 AM

i wanted to buy that car as a dd and under hard acceleration the thrans was slipping. he then told me he had some double clutching shit he was gonna do to it and i was like dude wait what. so i said thanks and good luck. if its the same car. i know there are millions of burgandy taurasses in raleigh though

6/18/2008 12:29:42 PM

lol yea i got it from south port so i doubt it's the same one. are the newer tarui(plural?) prone to a lot of tranny problems?

6/18/2008 2:08:50 PM

damn wrong guy then

6/18/2008 2:34:56 PM

ALL Tauruses are prone to tranny problems, especially if the fluid and filter aren't serviced regularly.

The double clutch you are speaking of is actually a multiple clutch pack inside the torque converter instead of the single friction element common in most production lockup converters. You find a lot of this style torque converter used in heavy-duty towing and known problem applications, as it has roughly twice the friction surface area and is much less prone to failure. Companies like ATI actually offer TRIPLE clutch packs for modded diesel trucks because of the extreme strain placed on the assembly.

Many of the newer cars (Chrysler products especially) are designed to use a "soft" lockup mode with a certain amount of slippage, much as you would feather a manual tranny clutch, to soften the shock of lockup. The way just about all lockup converters work is that the center input shaft is hollow, and tranny fluid pressure is applied through the shaft to UNLOCK the lockup clutch assembly. This is usually always solenoid actuated. Any loss of pressure through the shaft galley will result in the torque converter locking up. This is why many high-mileage cars or cars with gunked-up valve bodies or solenoids may not drop out of lockup when approaching a stop, and sometimes the engine will stall.

The torque converter you speak of has nothing to do with the manual transmission style of double clutching (usually when matched-throttle downshifting on conventional sticks or even upshifting on unsyncronized trannies such as those found in big trucks).

6/18/2008 11:32:19 PM

awesome so this double clucth pack aka "double clutch torque" is in fact a stronger than factory part and won't harm the tranny in any way

6/19/2008 3:32:22 AM