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Doss2k
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Tyson Gay just ran a 9.68 in the 100m, fastest time ever, too bad they aren't giving him the record because the wind was blowing.

[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 8:03 PM. Reason : not Rudy]

6/29/2008 8:01:09 PM

Walter
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6/29/2008 8:03:00 PM

StingrayRush
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since when are natural events factored into competitions?

6/29/2008 8:04:35 PM

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6/29/2008 8:06:03 PM

Doss2k
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Don't know but apparently wind can make you run faster, they should take into account what direction it is blowing, I mean if he was running into it or it was a crosswind then shouldnt he get extra time added? lol

6/29/2008 8:06:23 PM

Doss2k
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Damn it also has to suck to break a world record only to be swimming against Michael Phelps who destroys it.

6/29/2008 8:14:04 PM

StingrayRush
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i mean if a baseball player sets the homer record playing at coors field or something, sure they might mention that when talking about it, but they wouldn't put an asterisk next to the record or anything

6/29/2008 8:14:43 PM

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he'll test positive for performance enhancers in a few weeks anyway

6/29/2008 8:17:00 PM

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I dont understand why sprinters need/have big biceps.

6/29/2008 8:34:24 PM

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Wow... so much ignorance in this thread. i though y'all were sports junkies?

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"since when are natural events factored into competitions?"


since forever.

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"Don't know but apparently wind can make you run faster"


Apparently? Don't you think you would run faster if you had a 10 m/s wind pushing you? And on the flip side, it can [of course] make you run slower if you are running into it.

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"they should take into account what direction it is blowing"


Le Duh

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"I dont understand why sprinters need/have big biceps."


Uh, WTF? Because they lift to build muscle? You can't just have big muscly thighs and skinny arms, you know? Sprinting depends on muscle power, not on lung/heart power, so they lift like crazy, just like bodybuilders do. And if you lift, you have to lift for and develop every part, not just one part of your body.


This really interests me. I have been following 100 m ever since the Canadian, Ben Johnson, ran a 9.78 at the Seoul Olympics in 1988, but was disqualified later after he tested positive for testosterone use. I think at that time the record belonged to Carl Lewis, and I believe it was 9.92. Been following the 200 m and the long jump since then as well. But damn, y'all asked some silly ass questions that any joe_schmoe could answer without much knowledge at all!



[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ]

6/29/2008 8:43:24 PM

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Plus arm movement is just as important in sprinting as leg movement.

Also, he already set the world record yesterday with a 9.77, so he only would've broken his own record with the 9.68 today.

6/29/2008 8:47:11 PM

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"Plus arm movement is just as important in sprinting as leg movement.\"


oh yeah, forgot that. thanks.

6/29/2008 8:48:40 PM

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^^ He broke the US record yesterday. That wasn't the world record.

6/29/2008 8:51:52 PM

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"since forever."


like what? aside from outdoor events maybe being cancelled on account of rain, i really cannot think of one sport that discredits achievements based on weather

6/29/2008 9:16:02 PM

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that's 23.1 mph

6/29/2008 9:35:39 PM

0EPII1
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Wind faster than 2 m/s [obviously in the direction of the run] disqualifies any records set. That's the rule.

Tyson Gay ran in 9.68 sec with a wind of 4.1 m/s. Some guy ran a 9.69 sec 100 m sprint in the mid-90s with a 5 m/s wind, and you don't see that being quoted as the world record, do you? But yes, Tyson's time of 9.68 is the fastest under any conditions. I don't know if the Guinness Book of World Records and other recording bodies have that category or not, but if they do, his name will be there.

The current world record is 9.72 sec by Usian Bolt, a Jamaican dude. Before that it was Asafa Powell, also Jamaican, at 9.74 sec.

Did you know that altitude also factors into records? Beyond a certain critical altitude, records are not counted.

BTW, how come th women's record of 10.49 sec by Florence Griffith Joyner (1988) has not been broken yet? And same with the long jump... set by Bob Beamon in the 1920s or something, at 8.9+ meters. Actually, that was broken in the last decade, I think by [some] Powell... but still, why are those 2 resistant to being broken? And same with 200 m and 400 m, both held by Michael Johnson, in themid 90s I believe.

6/29/2008 9:35:50 PM

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I ran a 15.3 in 5th grade, think i can get it to around his time ?

6/29/2008 9:42:13 PM

IMStoned420
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It's certainly possible that the best athletes of all-time in those particular events lived 80 years ago. Maybe it'll just take someone even more special than them to break those records.

Michael Johnson was a beast in the 400. I'm pretty sure he broke that record at the 96 Olympics in Atlanta and I'm pretty sure I remember him doing it by a lot.

6/29/2008 9:42:30 PM

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Yup, Michael Johnson broke the 200m and 400m records in 1996 at Atlanta.

He truly was a beast. The 200m record he broke was a long-standing record from 1979. Michael's time is 19.32 sec, which is 9.66 sec x2!

But the thing I remember and liked best about him was his running style. He ran with a totally upright torso [ ]. In fact, if you look at the pictures of him in a race with others, you will scratch your head.

BTW, the women's 200 m record is also by Florence Griffith Joyner from 1988.

6/29/2008 9:54:40 PM

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ok so sprinting and whatever random altitude-based sport are the only ones? sorry i'm not an expert about the rules of sprinting

6/29/2008 10:06:50 PM

Kickstand
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Michael truly was a badass...I remember the gold shoes that Nike made for him

6/29/2008 10:12:17 PM

0EPII1
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since this thread was about sprinting, i assumed "competitions" as said by you referred to sprinting competitions.

and the "random altitude-based sport" is the long jump and the high jump. maybe sprinting as well (lower force of gravity --> run faster).

BTW, where else would these (wind speed, altitude) things matter? you think wind speed would affect boxing? football? volleyball? hockey? and no, as i said, you don't have to be an expert... just exercise some common sense.

6/29/2008 10:31:18 PM

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I bet the timing on those old records is questionable

6/29/2008 10:46:42 PM

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"you think wind speed would affect football?"


yes, quite a bit in both the passing and kicking game.

6/29/2008 10:55:55 PM

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"Le Duh"


I think you missed his point. He understood that they took into account that if the wind was at their backs then they would call it "wind-aided."

He was just saying that they should think about subtracting a hundredth or two if the wind is going against them too.



Bottom line....these guys are fast as shit.

6/29/2008 11:07:40 PM

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"you think wind speed would affect boxing? football? volleyball? hockey"


That is the dumbest shit I have ever read.

6/29/2008 11:10:50 PM

0EPII1
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^^^, ^

no it is not dumb. of course wind speed would affect the running in footbal, field hockey, etc... but not so much as to change the nature of the whole game. you run in both directions, and running is just one aspect of the game. there is no way to prove this, but a wind speed of 3 or 4 or 5 m/s would not affect the outcome of the whole MATCH, which lasts a damn lot of time.

but in sprinting... running is all you are doing, and just for a few sec. so of course they take wind speed into account.


^^

i see... haha, the sprinters wish!

6/29/2008 11:15:13 PM

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"a wind speed of 3 or 4 or 5 m/s would not affect the outcome of the whole MATCH"


Tell that to the guy kicking the 50 yard field goal as time expires.

6/29/2008 11:17:49 PM

Walter
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yeah but for running it's affecting everyone, thus a fair match

6/29/2008 11:19:16 PM

Kickstand
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nah, a slight variance in the velocity field in front of the runners could lead to an unfair disadvantage for some

6/29/2008 11:27:44 PM

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even if i didn't know i would easily find out who is American and who is a foreigner in this thread.

0EPII1 we grew up following the same events. i lived in front of the TV during every world championship in Athletics and during olympics. Now i am forcing myself to follow mediocre and utterly RETARDED sports such as baseball and football or better yet golf, where fat people with guts are considered athletes.

6/29/2008 11:33:09 PM

BJCaudill21
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damn, if only you had played baseball, that coulda been you...

right?

6/29/2008 11:34:01 PM

Ernie
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They're there to hit a ball, not sell jeans.

6/29/2008 11:34:11 PM

Stein
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Man, it'd be so awesome to be able to walk around knowing that you were (by at least one definition) the fastest man alive.

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0EPII1 we grew up following the same events. i lived in front of the TV during every world championship in Athletics and during olympics. Now i am forcing myself to follow mediocre and utterly RETARDED sports such as baseball and football or better yet golf, where fat people with guts are considered athletes."


Yeah, but at least we here in America don't pretend that soccer's cool.

6/30/2008 1:37:40 AM

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"better yet golf, where fat people with guts are considered athletes."


No player in the top 100 in the world is "fat".

Phil Mickelson would whip your ass.

6/30/2008 1:46:02 AM

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"Now i am forcing myself to follow mediocre and utterly RETARDED sports "


is it olympics time already?

6/30/2008 1:49:49 AM

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the short bus sure emptied out on this thread

6/30/2008 1:57:56 AM

jbrick83
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"No player in the top 100 in the world is "fat"."


Is Colin Montgomerie still int he top 100??

And Phil use to be pretty fat. And he's not exactly in tip-top shape right now.

6/30/2008 8:31:11 AM

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John Daly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6HXfA__e14

I think he was ranked like #65 or something in 2004...dont know what he's ranked now though.

Either way, he was ranked pretty high and is a fatty.

6/30/2008 10:36:32 AM

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"Christian News Site Automatically Changes Pseudo-World Record Holder's Last Name From Gay To "Homosexual"
Monday, June 30, 2008

As evidenced by some of the stories in the Sports World of late there are some overly sensitive folks out there. One of those groups of people happen to be the Christian news network One News Now who apparently have a filter that changes the word "Gay" to "Homosexual". Obviously it does it for people who have the name Gay, like new 100-meter World Record holder Tyson Gay, and thus gives us the best headline ever....


The craziest part of the whole thing is that when you click on the story it links to the AP version with the correct version of the runner's name. Too funny and it might be time to update your homosexual editing software, One News Now.

World’s fastest man: Tyson Homosexual (Out Sports)
Christian News Site Calls Sprinter Tyson Gay 'Tyson Homosexual' (Fanhouse)
Posted by Awful Announcing- at 10:09 AM "
http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/06/christian-news-site-automatically.html

6/30/2008 1:47:17 PM

0EPII1
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Usain "Lightinign" Bolt, wins gold with 9.69 sec, breaks his own world record of 9.72 sec.

He was waaaay ahead of everybody else. The 2nd place dude clocked 9.89 sec, which means he was almost 2.5 meters behind Bolt That's the largest margin of victory in the Olympic 100 m sprint in the past 40 years!

But if you think that's great, consider this:

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"Even though his left shoelace was dangling, the knot undone. Even though he skidded out of the starting blocks with the seventh-slowest reaction time in the eight-man final."


DAMN

Imagine if he had the fastest or 2nd fastest reaction time... he could have gone as low as 9.59 sec, or lower!

Asafa Powell, the other Jamaican, who held the world record before Bolt till just a few months back, came in 5th. And Tyson Gay, who ran the 9.68 run with a headwind of 4 m/s just a couple of months back, couldn't even make the finals, and came in 5th in the semis.

Here is a really good and funny read... read it even if you don't care much about the 100 m sprint:

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news;_ylt=ApQ9aXgUyJ3h0jCDJnf7F43Q1Zl4?slug=ap-ath-trackandfield

Oh and the dude is 6 foot 5 inches tall!

I can't wait to see what he does with the 200 m on Wednesday... it is about time Michael Johnson's record came tumbling down!

8/16/2008 7:28:52 PM

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^ It was pretty much a given that Bolt would win the 100m if you watched the races leading up to the final. Dude basically jogged to a 9.92 in the quarters.

8/16/2008 7:52:44 PM

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where can i find video of it?

i can't find it anywhere online.

8/16/2008 8:37:30 PM

0EPII1
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youtube has everything i guess

but also that yahoo link i posted has the video.

8/16/2008 8:40:47 PM

skokiaan
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He looks strong, too. They have to teach him to catch a football, then he can make $texas

8/16/2008 8:46:23 PM

BDubLS1
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nope, no video on youtube or yahoo

those are just videos with screenshots only

8/16/2008 8:58:35 PM

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go to http://www.nbcolympics.com

geez people

but this dude is completely classless, he pull up before the finish, he just wants to win an rub it in everyone's face, he's not even interested to do his best
if i saw him on the street i'd punch him in the face

8/16/2008 9:23:39 PM

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no you wouldn't, faggot, because you couldn't catch him.



They are going to replay the final before the swimming happens. They just replayed the semifinals.

8/16/2008 9:28:38 PM

0EPII1
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when you are the best in the world in something, you have earned the right to rub it in everyone's face.

you will punch his face? ok. he is probably 2 times as fast and 5 times as strong as you are.


[Edited on August 16, 2008 at 9:31 PM. Reason : ]

8/16/2008 9:30:14 PM

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he sounded like an aright dude when they talked to him after one of his prelim races, he just likes to showboat. Theres nothing wrong with that.

8/16/2008 9:43:25 PM

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