vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
by Chuck Berry
VS
"The Promised Land"
by Bruce Springsteen
DISCUSS
I say they're equal, Springsteen says Berry's is better. 7/5/2008 4:18:08 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
dead did it best 7/5/2008 4:22:37 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
bruce springstein is one of the most over rated musicians of all time 7/5/2008 4:23:06 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
I've never really liked anything of Springsteen's. Plus, Berry's version evokes more of a response in me. 7/5/2008 4:23:15 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not a huge Boss fan, but I absolutely love "The Promised Land."
With that said, I might like the Sleater-Kinney version more. 7/5/2008 4:27:59 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
springsteen beats the fuck out of the pansy rock most of you kids listen to
OMF HAVE YOU HEARD OF "ROTTEN TOMATO GOLF CLUBS?" 7/5/2008 8:39:34 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Because, you know, the guy who invented modern guitar-based rock 'n' roll is a pansy. ] 7/6/2008 9:19:12 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
because, you know, he specifically stated "chuck berry"? ] 7/6/2008 9:20:03 PM |
lmnop All American 4809 Posts user info edit post |
Springsteen is unlisten-to-able. 7/6/2008 9:20:31 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^^ the topic of the thread is springsteen vs. berry 7/6/2008 9:21:43 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
and?
doesnt change the fact that he didnt specifically say chuck berry
i'm guessing he said what he said cause of what me and chembob said
[Edited on July 6, 2008 at 9:23 PM. Reason : and not to mention he said "most of you kids"...not ALL...] 7/6/2008 9:22:41 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Make no mistake.
Chuck Berry's the man.
I'm working in a cover of Johnny B. Goode as a salute.
Hating on Springsteen has become a fashion I hold a little vendetta against considering the sheer awesomeness of his works, dedication to the art, and conscience. 7/6/2008 9:25:08 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
i thought this was about
7/6/2008 9:26:39 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I loves me some Springsteen.
Someone needs to find a bootleg of the Springsteen's original band backing up Chuck Berry at a gig in Jersey. 7/6/2008 9:27:54 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i think i heard the song he did for the movie philidelphia once....didnt it win an oscar or something for best soundtrack song? i distinctly remember myself liking it iirc 7/6/2008 9:31:34 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to hear the Dead's version.
And truthfully, I think this is an unanswerable question.
Bruce is up there with Jim Morrison and John Lennon in my musical influences. If I were to blaspheme rock itself by insisting I liked his version better than Chuck Berry's, it'd feel just as heretical.
7/6/2008 9:36:20 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
It's not the same song, btw.
They just have essentially the same title.
Also, Jim Morrison was a talentless douchebag. 7/6/2008 9:37:23 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Opinions are spectacular. 7/6/2008 9:38:47 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Decent frontman.
No talent.
I'm off to work, we'll pick this up tomorrow. ] 7/6/2008 9:39:14 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I'll grant the douchebag assessment.
I look forward to the explanation of talentless. And what separates those who can be frontmen from those who can't. 7/6/2008 9:44:59 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The comparison I always use when it comes to frontmen is as follows:
If Sammy Hagar were to walk into a bar, he'd probably buy everyone drinks, sit down, and have a nice conversation about whatever you felt like talking about.
If David Lee Roth walked into the same bar, he'd laugh at everyone, grab the two hottest chicks, and hit the road.
That's why David Lee Roth is a great frontman, and Sammy Hagar is not. He's got the swagger. You don't have to have a ton of natural singing talent to be a great frontman, but you do have to be charismatic. Talent helps, of course.
As far as Morrison goes, he had tons of charisma. A lot of it was charisma of the idiotic variety (the pratfalls), but as a handsome man who could put on a show, he was a quality frontman. He wasn't a terrible singer, so that was a bonus.
However, this idea that Morrison was a poet or had anything significant to say at all is the biggest load of crap in the history of the legitimate (read: not Milli Vanilli) music business. Dylan is a poet. Springsteen is a poet. Berry is a poet. Morrison was a handsome drunk in a decent band. 7/7/2008 2:19:19 PM |
Mulva All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, listen to the armchair quarterback of music here. "Morrison was OKAY"... 7/7/2008 2:22:06 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52829 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bruce springstein is one of the most over rated musicians of all time
" |
Clearly you have lost your mind.7/7/2008 2:22:23 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
"Nebraska" ftw
The Doors ftl 7/7/2008 2:24:34 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yes.
I have three copies of Nebraska.
I have one Doors singles CD that I'll begrudgingly play something from for a decent tip. 7/7/2008 2:29:16 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
7/7/2008 2:31:18 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
oh snap
it's major dad
or simon
or just gerald 7/7/2008 2:32:39 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i love how many of the bruce haters (not specifically on tww) base their opinions solely on Born in the USA, a song that the boss himself doesn't very much care for.
The boss is deep and his songs are even deeper. His style is all his own and the guy is a genuine fucking badass 7/7/2008 2:33:03 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
the original acoustic version of "born in the usa" is fucking intense as shit
also, "johnny 99" ftw ] 7/7/2008 2:35:03 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
YES I'M SO GLAD THE PICTURE OF THIS SHOW WAS POSTED!!!!
for like a million years i was trying to think of the name of this show. i kept describing it to tschudi as "a show like 7th heaven but not."
oh CBS, you always know how to rock.
and to respond to the OP: i am partial to chuck berry. but i do agree with the sentiments about brucey. he's the most underrated overrated musician.
[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .] 7/7/2008 3:10:15 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
there's an extra bit of sentimentality with the berry song
because he mentions raleigh 7/7/2008 3:13:43 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
and because he does an awesome run run rudolph 7/7/2008 3:15:59 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " for like a million years i was trying to think of the name of this show. i kept describing it to tschudi as "a show like 7th heaven but not." " |
I think it's like a 7th Heaven road trip or something.7/7/2008 3:42:24 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha exactly. i remember watching it (god knows why) when i was little. and they like own an RV and drive around the USA teaching sunday school and picking up foster kids and such. 7/7/2008 3:47:05 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
lol, An RV would be too baller. I distinctly remember them having a Suburban and a tow behind camper. 7/7/2008 3:49:42 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i distinctly remember reading that on imdb too. 7/7/2008 4:00:10 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
what i read looked like
"i didn't like Jim's poetry so it's not poetry"
some say the same for e.e. cummings
*shrug*
again
spectacular and articulate opinion you've got there
wholeheartedly disagree 7/7/2008 4:41:40 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
fair enough
i can grant that it's poetry
i just find it sophomoric and plainly bad
however, i'm glad the doors existed
because X's cover of "soul kitchen" kicks ass 7/7/2008 4:44:53 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
word
glad we could come together on this
we should do this again sometime [no homo]
meeting adjourned
[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 5:02 PM. Reason : ] 7/7/2008 5:01:36 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
/thread 7/7/2008 5:02:42 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52829 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ soul kitchen is a great song
and X is cool, too...plus, without them, RHCP wouldn't have been able to sample "White Girl" in "Good Time Boys", and Robert Earl Keen, Jr couldn't have covered "4th Of July". 7/7/2008 6:02:43 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is bringing folks from all walks together
fo sho
perhaps "promised land" is the best possible title for this thread 7/7/2008 6:04:27 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
^i'll cut you.
Boss FTW. 7/7/2008 6:12:27 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
btw i just went to buy the live version of it off itunes and i cant... my credit card is cancelled and i dont have a new one yet 7/7/2008 6:17:10 PM |