Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
I like evans but was really suprised to see this.
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/ncsu/story/1146910.html 7/21/2008 7:11:17 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
they didn't pass much for most of college football history. 7/21/2008 7:19:01 PM |
wethebest Suspended 1080 Posts user info edit post |
lol. SUCH RICH HISTORY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFb9t54NfUg&feature=related give em the bizzness! 7/21/2008 7:28:58 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully he will finish as 7th as well he shouldn't see another snap, period. 7/21/2008 7:40:33 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
if they included the yards returned on all those interceptions he's thrown he would be #1. 7/21/2008 7:41:22 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how many int yds he has. 7/21/2008 7:41:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
its not like we have a Phillip Rivers we can just plug in...Evans might be our best QB this year, who knows 7/21/2008 7:41:59 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
if he is our best QB this year, we are in some big trouble.. 7/21/2008 7:42:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
well i'm not worried
because its easy to be optimistic while you're still 0-0 7/21/2008 7:54:40 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
He's the college version of Jake Delhomme
They both suck, but you've really got no better options
so you just have to deal with it
[Edited on July 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM. Reason : x] 7/21/2008 8:00:53 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Hi, I am Mike Glennon.
thanks, Bye 7/21/2008 8:42:51 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^^ like jake though I feel like if you can put him in a decent situation consistently you can live with him
[Edited on July 21, 2008 at 8:43 PM. Reason : ] 7/21/2008 8:43:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
in our dynasty i play UCF next week...i'm pretty sure Mike Greco is their QB haha 7/21/2008 8:57:49 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I'm too lazy to find the list, but I'd love to know how far he can move up with a decent season. It would be pretty funny if he ended up in the top 5 after all the shit he's gotten (although it would still probably pale in comparison to what Stone/Davis got). 7/21/2008 9:14:49 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
evans is exactly like jake delhomme. they both just throw up jumpballs. sometimes it works, a lot of times it doesn't. 7/21/2008 9:18:48 PM |
LS1powered All American 689 Posts user info edit post |
id compare evans with grossman, maybe? 7/21/2008 11:05:31 PM |
ZomBCraw Suspended 6999 Posts user info edit post |
Man do i love garbage statistics 7/21/2008 11:13:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Evans' main problem a lot of the time seems to be his strength and not getting the ball far enough or in there hard enough...Delhomme and Grossman have a lot more arm strength 7/21/2008 11:15:59 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S LIKE HAMILTON AND RBIS!!!! 7/21/2008 11:16:18 PM |
Lone Wolf New Recruit 10 Posts user info edit post |
7th?? really? 7/22/2008 9:05:50 AM |
Sincere Veteran 109 Posts user info edit post |
im not a big evans guy but it hasnt been all of his fault. i read an article about all the injuries he has had and he had the same surgery that Brees had last year.
if you dont have time to throw the ball you will get hit too much and either get sacked or throw picks so its not all on him 7/22/2008 9:21:38 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
7th in most passing yards. Where does he rank in turnover margin (ints and fumbles lost)? 7/22/2008 9:25:09 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think Evan's is a good little QB...he just doesn't have the arm strength to make a lot of throws...which limits our offense.
But I think he's smart, a good decision maker, and can throw a good ball...just not with a lot of zip. He's not unathletic either, and can make some plays on his feet every now and then.
So until Glennon or someone else steps up big time, I'm not going to cry about Evans being our starter. He's not that bad. 7/22/2008 9:25:52 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Good decision maker? Are you fucking kidding me? Evans if probably one of the worst decision makers out there.
he is also a terrible quarterback.
Also, Evans is not an athletic quarterback. He's slower than Steve Beuerlein and that is saying a lot. He is slower than his fucking offensive linemen for chrissakes.
[Edited on July 22, 2008 at 10:30 AM. Reason : .] 7/22/2008 10:29:50 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Regardless of arm strength, you can't call someone that consistently throws easy pick 6s a good decisionmaker. Maybe he doesn't force as many bad throws downfield trying to make plays that aren't there as other QBs on the roster, but throwing picks in the flats for easy touchdowns is hardly good decisionmaking. 7/22/2008 10:57:09 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
WHY CANT HE BE AS GOOD AS RIVERS 7/22/2008 11:05:04 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Or at least as good as Olin Hannum 7/22/2008 11:15:54 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
For a guy who no one really expected to ever play, much less start, he's really not that bad.
[Edited on July 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .] 7/22/2008 11:23:34 AM |
Alfgard Veteran 428 Posts user info edit post |
BRING BACK DAVIS!!!!11111111111111 7/22/2008 11:26:29 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Who are 2 through 6?
I imagine jamie barnette is in there somewhere as is shane montgomery
who else? 7/22/2008 11:26:32 AM |
Lone Wolf New Recruit 10 Posts user info edit post |
^^I agree that he's pretty good for a guy that wasn't expected to play, but that's still no reason for him to start. But I'll bet he'll end up the starter this year anyway 7/22/2008 11:30:47 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
If someone were to step in any play better, I'm sure they'd be starting.
[Edited on July 22, 2008 at 11:36 AM. Reason : .] 7/22/2008 11:36:23 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
7/22/2008 11:36:59 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think most of his interceptions are a result of him not having the arm strength to make throws. So I guess that makes it a bad decision...but at the same time...he's not Harrison Beck throwing for 30 interceptions in one half. I guess he's a good decision maker compares to the rest of our QB's...which isn't saying much.
And he might not be a scrambling QB...but he's more athletic than Rivers. 7/22/2008 11:42:50 AM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
This stat is just one of those deceptive ones, it shouldn't be read to far into.
He has a decent amount of starts(17) and has probably played in 20 or so games. He throws tons of picks and puts us behind in games which makes him have to pass even more. Plus I don't think NCSU is like a BYU QB production machine, outside of Rivers we are generally happy when the ball is incomplete vs. being caught by the other team. 7/22/2008 12:26:51 PM |
asdf1234 Veteran 386 Posts user info edit post |
ICE 7/22/2008 1:07:47 PM |
tej434 Veteran 375 Posts user info edit post |
Interceptions could be seen as deceiving as well. You have balls tipped on the line, droped passes, balls that come out as you get hit...all of which go down as an int, none of which you can *blame* on the QB...and all of which happened last year. 7/22/2008 1:55:14 PM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
I support Evans. 7/22/2008 1:57:19 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
he is not a D1 QB, in my opinion. He has shown what he can do already.
We don't know how a couple of the new guys will respond to "game" situations. you can't count practice and you can't count the spring game which was boring.
We've already seen what Evans can do in a game.
Why not start someone who has never played in a game and see what they can do? What have we got to lose? we were already picked to finish last in our division anyway. 7/22/2008 2:04:38 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
I support whoever is starting. I kind of hope that's Russell Wilson. Truthfully we need mobility at the QB position right now to hide our o-line's generally terrible protection. They might be more improved this year, but I won't expect the o-line TOB is truly known for until his 3rd or perhaps even 4th year. By then perhaps Wilson will be drafted by MLB and Glennon can take over as a RS-SO. Then we'll have a 3 year Glennon era. 7/22/2008 2:05:17 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you can't count practice" |
Who are you...Allen Iverson??
Hell yeah you can count practice. Coaches do it all the damn time. If the guy isn't playing well in practice, what makes you think he'll play well in a game?? There's a reason why Evans has had so many starts the last two years.7/22/2008 2:41:38 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he is not a D1 QB, in my opinion. He has shown what he can do already.
We don't know how a couple of the new guys will respond to "game" situations. you can't count practice and you can't count the spring game which was boring.
We've already seen what Evans can do in a game.
Why not start someone who has never played in a game and see what they can do? What have we got to lose? we were already picked to finish last in our division anyway." |
I love this shit. The coaching staff have seen our QBs take more snaps than you'll ever see. They know what they're doing. Our best QB will be on the field.7/22/2008 2:45:33 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
That is why Pick 6 won't be quarterback. 7/22/2008 3:02:29 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
exactly right, they will put the best QB on the field and i can guarantee you that Evans will not be starting.
and i meant, a guy can look AWESOME during practice but during a real game when guys are actually trying to pound you, they look like a deer in headlights 7/22/2008 3:17:02 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Jay Davis was the perfect example of a practice quarterback that sucked on game day. The only difference between Evan's and Davis is that Davis was bigger and more capable of taking a hit. 7/22/2008 3:19:12 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson's mobility, and our potential running game with the RBs we have could be a good combination. If we can block and get a running game going whatever qb is back there will be alright, but if we have to throw 30 times a game, forget it. 7/22/2008 4:07:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only difference between Evan's and Davis is that Davis was bigger and more capable of taking a hit." |
and the fact that...Evans is a better QB7/22/2008 4:16:15 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
I blame it on bad luck that most of Evans' passes were pick sixes. Usually int's. result in the player getting tackled in the secondary, but his always seem to be out passes that a defender would swoop under and then have no one around to tackle him.
[Edited on July 22, 2008 at 7:39 PM. Reason : ^ sorta what markgoal said] 7/22/2008 7:35:47 PM |
machinencsu All American 2200 Posts user info edit post |
^the problem is he doesnt have the arm strength to throw the out route the way it should be thrown, thus giving defenders time to jump the route, so technically it really is his fault that they end up pick 6's 7/22/2008 7:41:57 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of good receivers have gone to waste b/c of our lack of a good QB
Tramain Hall practically disappeared after P.Rivers left. and remember Sterling Hicks and Brian Williams? hardly ever got any touches
it's a shame we couldn't get them the ball more
[Edited on July 22, 2008 at 7:52 PM. Reason : yep] 7/22/2008 7:52:05 PM |