They just aren't. It's not compelling TV, they lack comparable athleticism, and frankly it's embarrassing to see them cry every 10 minutes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3510081&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1

Quote :

"That's not to say there's nothing in the Games for the guys. Nationalism brings out the primal fan in all of us. The daily medal count measures a country's success, letting men follow—with something akin to genuine interest—sports like synchronized swimming and softball. They can marvel at women performing on a level equal to men in sports such as archery and shooting, then marvel anew when women perform with skill that men can't match, notably in gymnastics."

Comments like this make my blood boil. Women's gymnastics is a damned joke compared to men's gymnastics. There's a reason they don't do rings, and they have to do the uneven bars. They lack the upper body strength to do those events. If you allowed a decent male gymnast to compete in the women's events he would win every single one of them.

Fuck women's sports.

7/31/2008 8:03:32 PM

words

7/31/2008 8:04:13 PM

women are best in the kitchen

7/31/2008 8:04:33 PM

have you seen the college women in volleyball shorts thread?

7/31/2008 8:04:37 PM

Yup, but looking good in spandex doesn't make you good at the game.

7/31/2008 8:06:35 PM

tennis?

swimming?

there are other sports besides gymnastics. women's gymnastics are still difficult and pretty awesome to watch. also women are built different than men. its not like the uneven bars are a walk in the park. or the balance beam?

seriously...if you want to bash like, women's basketball go for it. but keep in mind women marathon runners are just as boring to watch as male marathon runners.

EDIT: and if an article about women being potentially better or more enjoyable to watch in a sport makes your blood boil, imagine how females feel. wow, being a man must be really really hard. i don't know how you males even make it through the day

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:07 PM. Reason : .]

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7/31/2008 8:06:39 PM

Meh, the world #1 in women's tennis would get smoked by any pro tennis player.

It's not that I dislike the olympics or even women's sports in general, but I'm so sick of being told how incredible an athletic feat it is when a girl makes a layup or dances with a streamer (rhythmic gymnastics I'm looking in your direction). I'm sick of the segregation in sports that require zero athleticism like archery, shooting, or billiards.

Listen, media, stop trying to convince me that women's sports are just as good as men's, anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of the sport in question can immediately tell that that's a damned lie. Allow women's sports to be enjoyed for what they are, a lower level of competition with inferior athletes. I mean, I know college football isn't anywhere near as good as the NFL, but that doesn't mean I can't still enjoy it, but it inflames me when some honk talks about how LSU would beat the Detroit Lions.

It's really just the PC aspect that pisses me off. It's patronizing to the women playing it too.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM. Reason : ed]

7/31/2008 8:11:49 PM

i'll grant you that i like to watch women's tennis, but i agree. this charade has run its course. for the same reason i don't want to watch U-15 leagues, i don't want to watch women's leagues.

7/31/2008 8:12:47 PM

but this is the olympics

not a women's basketball league.

7/31/2008 8:14:41 PM

ok, olympic softball, then.

7/31/2008 8:15:21 PM

Right, which means we're subjected to an even worse level of competition. How sad are things like the Israeli women's basketball team, or the Dutch women's beach volleyball squad. It's like the Jamaican bobsled team. Ineptitude isn't entertaining, neither are lopsided ass-kickings.

7/31/2008 8:16:47 PM

^^did you see the op? about gymnastics? yea...women's gymnastics is really really easy and men would definitely be able to beat all women in all of their routines. last time i checked male floor routines sucked compared to the women's. and balance beam? come on.

plus there are a million other sports. sailing, swimming, running, rowing, archery.

^ yea well not everyone is from the united states. some women actually live in countries where they have even less exposure to sports and are even more objectified. and some countries who participate in the olympics are not as industrialized so they don't have the resources we have. so you're saying that the dutch women's volleyball team is boring to watch just because it is a women's squad. but the male swimmer from some small country in africa that takes 12 minutes longer than everyone else in the race to finish is interesting to watch?

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7/31/2008 8:18:16 PM

Q:why do people go to womens softball games?

A: $1 beer

7/31/2008 8:18:34 PM

Quote :

"It's like the Jamaican bobsled team."

i don't know what you're talking about, but cool runnings is some sweet shit.

Quote :

"plus there are a million other sports. sailing, swimming, running, rowing, archery."

i don't consider sailing a sport no matter who's doing it, and women's swimming, running and rowing are nerf ball. i don't know about archery, but if i had to guess, i'd guess that men are better at that, too.

don't take me the wrong way here, it's not like I'M good at this stuff. i'm sure you as an individual are better than me at a lot of shit, sporting or otherwise. i'm just not interested in watching competitions that are comprised 100% of people who aren't good enough to be in the main competition.

7/31/2008 8:18:35 PM

well women's swimming is just as interesting to watch as men's swimming.

so are women's gymnastics. so i'm still a little confused about what you mean by the "main competition"

the men's competition?

7/31/2008 8:22:10 PM

you know, the competition they had before they had to make a seperate women's competition.

7/31/2008 8:22:56 PM

7/31/2008 8:23:33 PM

i'm sorry, is that inaccurate?

7/31/2008 8:24:42 PM

I'm guessing he's referring to the fact that the Olympic format pretty much keeps the best in the world from competing. It's more about nationalism than it is about sport. If you really wanted to see the best in the world compete you wouldn't watch the olympics, you'd watch the professional leagues.

7/31/2008 8:25:16 PM

Women aren't really good at anything that involves competition, at least when they're competing against men.

7/31/2008 8:25:27 PM

Haha, or he could be referring to the fact that if it wasn't for separating the genders you would never see another female compete in sports. Just watch Michelle Wie not make the cut this weekend for a prime example.

7/31/2008 8:26:34 PM

Quote :

"If you really wanted to see the best in the world compete you wouldn't watch the olympics, you'd watch the professional leagues."

this is true for most team sports, but not at all for traditional olympic sports.

^ that is what i am referring to. and golf is prime for women to compete. if there's any legit sport for women to compete w/ men in, it's golf. but it's not happening. like i said, it's nothing personal, i just don't like to watch or hear about nerf ball that's being played for the sake of political correctness.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:28 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 8:26:44 PM

wow this thread came outta left field

7/31/2008 8:28:48 PM

who cares, i still love to watch women's beach volleyball

7/31/2008 8:29:01 PM

Right, but some of the weird ass "amateur status" rules cause that to some extent. I mean, if there was such a thing as legitimate professional wrestling you'd watch that. If you want to see the best track athletes you watch the pro track circuits. The fact that the US can only take it's top 3 or 4 in each track event means that you're probably missing about 10-20 of the world's top 50 out of that event.

7/31/2008 8:29:46 PM

i guess you don't watch sports outside of the normal baseball/basketball/soccer/football then.

also by your logic we should exclude a lot of the "inept" males from other countries from participating in athletics. see my post above about people from less industrialized or impoverished countries.

7/31/2008 8:30:26 PM

u so fiesty

7/31/2008 8:30:58 PM

yea, we all know men like to watch women's volleyball

what a fucking shocker.

7/31/2008 8:32:04 PM

you're right, i have no interest in watching the first round of olympic basketball if the US or spain or argentina aren't playing. i also don't plan on watching olympic baseball, b/c while i love baseball, it's just bad baseball.

and why do you say that i don't watch any sports outside of baseball/basketball/soccer/football (although aside from tennis, those are the only sports i watch aside from the olympics)?

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:34 PM. Reason : ^ why would i watch women's volleyball? if i want to see scantily clad girls, the internet is king.]

7/31/2008 8:33:19 PM

i dont watch it^^

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:33 PM. Reason : i guess i would if there was nothing else on tv or i had cable...but i dont seek it out]

7/31/2008 8:33:26 PM

Quote :

"i guess you don't watch sports outside of the normal baseball/basketball/soccer/football then. also by your logic we should exclude a lot of the "inept" males from other countries from participating in athletics. see my post above about people from less industrialized or impoverished countries."

Actually, I do watch a lot of other shit. Cricket, Rugby, track and field occasionally (really dig the field events), cycling about once or twice a year, etc. However, yeah, excluding the shitty male athletes from other countries would do a lot to make the olympics better. I think I already made that point a couple of posts ago. Again, the olympics aren't about sport, they're a display of nationalism and a lame attempt at diplomacy through displays of shitty sport.

7/31/2008 8:34:43 PM

^^^ because you say that women's sports are included just to be "politically correct" not because they are actually worth watching or even close to par with men.

gymnastics? figure skating? swimming? i don't get it. these people are serious athletes. these sports are just as interesting to watch as the men's versions. they are very similar. and what are these people supposed to do? just not compete because their splits are a second or two off from the men's?

^ yea i get the nationalism thing. got it from your earlier post, thanks.

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7/31/2008 8:35:32 PM

i dont get why you are puttin up such a fight

7/31/2008 8:36:04 PM

whoa have the olympics started?

7/31/2008 8:36:40 PM

aug 8

7/31/2008 8:37:25 PM

because i agree that things like women's basketball are obviously not as interesting to watch when the united states has such talented men's basketball players. but i'm sure like zimbabwe's men's team isn't that interesting to watch. i just don't think its all about the male/female dynamic. women are biologically different from men. but there are sports that women excel in to the point of being JUST as entertaining as men. so the statements i've seen here seem a little to generalized. and besides that, i'm sick of men whining about women's sports. shut the fuck up. like you have anything to whine about. if you don't want to watch don't fucking watch. is it hard? no its not. sorry...not everyone has been handed things on a silver platter for thousands of years.

7/31/2008 8:39:42 PM

wow...

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:40 PM. Reason : save that anger for the bedroom or something]

7/31/2008 8:40:20 PM

i agree with caldwals rant

but i still didnt read it all but i have a good idea of what shes sayin


..ok except for the last sentence



[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:41 PM. Reason : j]

7/31/2008 8:40:37 PM

events that are judged like gymnastics and figure skating, i don't really count, although i will say that men's gymanstics is a much greater display of athleticism than women's.

to say that the female variety of a boring event is just as interesting as the male is just dumb. w/ that logic i might as well go watch retards do it, b/c that'd be more entertaining.

Quote :

"sorry...not everyone has been handed things on a silver platter for thousands of years."

LOL.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:43 PM. Reason : yep, life for me is a fucking breeze b/c i'm a guy.]

7/31/2008 8:42:07 PM

i said that some events that women have excelled in are just as interesting to watch as men's.

and i realize that comment was dumb (the one i put down about the marathon runners at the top)...that was the point.

edit: obviously i didn't mean lifes a breeze because you are a guy but athletics, including the olympics, is an area that has taken SO LONG for women to be allowed to participate in. and comments like yours make it sound like you're saying since YOU don't want to watch these events and since women will NEVER be as good as males, they shouldn't even have the opportunity to compete. you yourself said that we only have it because its "politically correct"

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:45 PM. Reason : .]

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7/31/2008 8:43:40 PM

7/31/2008 8:44:55 PM

i feel that the degree of athleticsm is equal in the fact that the women function at a biological disadvantage

through my years of learning technique through various sports ive learned to respect women because the top level performers are always more technically sound than their male counterparts who have other more innate abilities to rely on for lapses in techinical proficiency such as power, balance, and quickness


its really a thing of beauty to watch a good female performer

unless its basketball, they all fall on the floor 10 times a game...but i imagine in time women in bball will improve through developments in training and continued commitment to the sport

7/31/2008 8:46:08 PM

No, some of it is enjoyable. You're 100% right, watching the women swim is fine (I used to swim competitively and I'm amazed at the times some of these chicks post). My main point was not that all women's sports are shit.

I guess I have a few points:

1 - Stop telling me that these women are just as good as athletes as their male counterparts in the sports in which women compete ably. That is a quantifiable falsehood.

2 - Some women's sports are just painfully bad and awful to watch. Women's basketball, fast pitch softball, and shitty nonsports like synchronized swimming or rhythmic gymnastics make me want to throw my TV away.

3 - The Olympics are a shitty substitute for good professional sports. They're corrupt, politicized, and lack parity. The lack of parity is even more pronounced in the women's sports. It's just embarrassing to watch someone lose a 400m sprint by 100m.

7/31/2008 8:46:23 PM

i am trying my best to save this thread

7/31/2008 8:46:49 PM

Quote :

"athletics, including the olympics, is an area that has taken SO LONG for women to be allowed to participate in."

hey guess what, i'm 5'7" and white. i'm not allowed to compete in the olympics either. it's just not in the cards.

and if they had a 5'7" white guys league, i wouldn't watch that either.

7/31/2008 8:49:16 PM

i like how you say synchronized swimming is a nonsport. this has nothing to do with male/female but synchronized swimming is way harder than it looks. so is water polo. people don't get that you're actually treading water the whole time in these sports.

i realize women's basketball is shitty i've said that like 2000 times. i'll give you your damn basketball

i also have already addressed your comments about the olympics. i was just now talking about women's athletics in general. obviously they need some sort of arena to compete in.

^ hello i said ATHLETICS (in general, you know). sports. in general. women. not allowed to compete. for long time. do i have to be more specific? i put "including the olympics" to show that i was speaking GENERALLY.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 8:49:46 PM

Quote :

"people don't get that you're actually treading water the whole time in these sports."

i thought that was terribly obvious. and i don't want to watch synchronize swimming regardless of who's doing it.

7/31/2008 8:50:40 PM

lif e is just alot better if you quit watching sports with respect to other competitions and teams

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thats like sayin wake forest v. nebraska wasnt a good football game because neither team would beat LSU

7/31/2008 8:50:48 PM

^^which is why i SAID it had nothing to do with the male/female debate

and no, i've spoken to several people recently who didn't know water polo players had to tread water.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 8:51:26 PM

i guess i need to move on to hot tennis broads next

7/31/2008 8:51:35 PM