i've got http://www.warmearthdaily.com, but looking for others....anyone?

8/21/2008 8:58:52 PM

http://junkscience.com/ has some interesting material.

8/21/2008 10:09:55 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=537599

8/21/2008 10:13:42 PM

http://www.clownpenis.fart

8/21/2008 10:14:16 PM

http://bullshit.org/scourdingdatinternets/fakeassscience.aspx

8/21/2008 10:15:12 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/index.html
http://www.epa.gov/

Also, if you are going to jump on a bandwagon you might want to at least have a clue as to which one you are jumping aboard. By that I mean if you intend to somehow show that the earth is getting cooler then by all means be my guest but I believe what you are looking for is evidence that humans are in no way responsible for their actions pertaining to climate change.

*edit* Your intent may be quite the opposite of my implications. If they are then I apologize. I, on occasion, like to read what the "other side" has to say just to see what that the dense and obtuse population is alive and sad to say well.

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 10:31 PM. Reason : .]

8/21/2008 10:16:46 PM

might i suggest utilizing more professional sources, like scientific papers, articles, or journals? or at least government/educational sites?

but hey, http://www.globalwarmingisaninventionofthecommunists.com/ might have some good info, too

also, "global warming" is a misnomer...try to be realistic and use something valid like "global climate destabilization"

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM. Reason : .]

8/21/2008 10:17:07 PM

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"might i suggest utilizing more professional sources, like scientific papers, articles, or journals? or at least government/educational sites?"

ha

check where the funding originated

8/21/2008 10:18:42 PM

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm

8/21/2008 10:20:23 PM

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"ha check where the funding originated"

good point...john smith's http://www.globalwarmingisafascisttoolusedtomisleadthemasses.com/ is probably more reliable

.gov/.edu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> random .com/.net/.info/.us

i'm not saying .gov/.edu sites are perfect and objective...i am saying, however, than i can find "proof" to support just about anything if my only standard is that it be on teh intarweb

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 10:22 PM. Reason : .]

8/21/2008 10:21:12 PM

http://www.jailbaitgallery.com

8/21/2008 10:22:51 PM

^ now that's a site i can get behind!

8/21/2008 10:23:29 PM

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"good point...john smith's http://www.globalwarmingisafascisttoolusedtomisleadthemasses.com/ is probably more reliable"

thank you for putting words in my mouth ass hat

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"i'm not saying .gov/.edu sites are perfect and objective...i am saying, however, than i can find "proof" to support just about anything if my only standard is that it be on teh intarweb"

no shit, thats why you should check the funding source

god damn people are dense

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM. Reason : 

8/21/2008 10:23:54 PM

http://www.xtube.com

8/21/2008 10:24:10 PM

^^ you're welcome! though, if anything, i put text in your post, not words in your mouth

i find it amusing how worked up people get over this

the climate is destabilizing as a result of anthropogenic activities, the end...if you disagree, i respect your opinion, but you're still wrong...it's scary, i agree, and i don't blame the skeptics for being afraid, but at some point i expect they'll have to grow up and face reality...i won't even say "told you so"

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 10:27 PM. Reason : .]

8/21/2008 10:24:57 PM

I'll put something in your mouth bitch, but it ain't gonna be words

8/21/2008 10:27:02 PM

^ omg, please tell me you're talking to me [no homo]

8/21/2008 10:27:50 PM

8/21/2008 10:32:34 PM

w00t! red cherry shake from cookout, plz

8/21/2008 10:33:19 PM

^^^^^ You are so ignorant that you should be ashamed of it. You've bought the "scientific consensus" bullshit hook, line, and sinker. Too bad. I don't recall science ever saying "hey, there's a consensus, ok?" and that being valid. But hey, politicians will say that all the time.

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"By that I mean if you intend to somehow show that the earth is getting cooler"

Well, considering that, since 2001, it HAS gotten cooler, I'd say that's not too far fetched. But hey, what do I know... Let's just ask the three major reputable temperature records for proof of that.

BTW, here are some good sources for you, and they are reputable.

http://www.climate2003.com/blog/050202.scorecard.htm
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/trc.html
http://www.sciencebits.com/CO2orSolar
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005/2004JA010866.shtml
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba478/
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24036736-7583,00.html

Also, google the Wegman report on climate change.
Look up Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick. The truth is actually staring us in the face right now, and it is screaming that "global climate change" is a sham.

8/21/2008 10:34:53 PM

i remember when we beat guelph in basketball. they sucked

8/21/2008 10:36:17 PM

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"The truth is actually staring us in the face right now, and it is screaming that "global climate change" is a sham."

as long as you're looking the other way from the mountains of "evidence" saying the exact opposite, sure!

8/21/2008 10:36:33 PM

you mean like the evidence that temperatures haven't risen in over 7 years now?


or is this evidence like screaming about one side of Antarctica falling into the sea while the other side accrues more ice than is lost...

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 10:38 PM. Reason : ]

8/21/2008 10:37:09 PM

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"Also, if you are going to jump on a bandwagon you might want to at least have a clue as to which one you are jumping aboard. By that I mean if you intend to somehow show that the earth is getting cooler then by all means be my guest but I believe what you are looking for is evidence that humans are in no way responsible for their actions pertaining to climate change. *edit* Your intent may be quite the opposite of my implications. If they are then I apologize. I, on occasion, like to read what the "other side" has to say just to see what that the dense and obtuse population is alive and sad to say well."

Dude, stop.

Don't dignify these people with rational responses.

8/21/2008 10:38:34 PM

^ i know, right? Science doesn't actually have to defend itself with valid data or anything. fuck that shit! just believe because Al Gore says so!

8/21/2008 10:39:16 PM

lol, science. and i bet you guys believe we actually went to the moon too

8/21/2008 10:40:29 PM

the notion that AGW is based on science is, in fact, laughable, so you are right, mang.


but, really, if anyone actually wants to talk about this shit, then go look at the thread in TSB.

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=438755&page=53

it's a long read, but I'd suggest starting at page 52 or so to hear about the latest "developments".

8/21/2008 10:41:50 PM

yeah, because there is always intelligent conversation in Soap Box

8/21/2008 10:43:26 PM

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"^ i know, right? Science doesn't actually have to defend itself with valid data or anything. fuck that shit! just believe because Al Gore says so!"

NOT IN CHIT CHAT IT DOESN'T!

Booya!

8/21/2008 10:44:43 PM

not in Soap Box either. TWW is the last place I would come for intelligent discussion of any kind

8/21/2008 10:45:43 PM

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"you mean like the evidence that temperatures haven't risen in over 7 years now? or is this evidence like screaming about one side of Antarctica falling into the sea while the other side accrues more ice than is lost..."

i spent nearly two months in sweden, north of the arctic circle, taking measurements, core samples, and making calculations

over the past 10 years, the permafrost has been depleted extensively, to a point unparalleled in knowable (at the moment) geological history...in the summer, what used to be frozen just 3-4 inches down is mush, and the amount of methane gas being released from the decomposition of thousands of square kilometers of bog is staggering...mosquitoes run rampant with no natural enemies at that particular latitude, the treeline is changing drastically, and there are numerable of unique species on the verge of extinction due to numbers that have fallen, increasingly and rampant, over the past 20 years

it's entirely possible it has nothing to do with a rapid and unbuffered change in global climate due anthropogenic activities...it could also be UFOs or because little boys touch themselves at night

in the meantime, i'll take my phd research and the effects i've seen with my own eyes against a random assortment of links you post, k?

8/21/2008 10:46:24 PM

you'd be surprised, eric. when you wade past the flame-wars, there actually is something decent about it every now and then

8/21/2008 10:46:44 PM

Earth getting cooler? what wuz that?

8/21/2008 10:46:46 PM

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8/21/2008 10:46:59 PM

anyone that thinks that the shit we are putting into the environment is not having an effect is seriously dillusional

8/21/2008 10:47:44 PM

oh, I'm sure it's having an effect. but the effect is so minimal at this point as to make it unimportant. it is the equivalent of pissing into niagara falls

8/21/2008 10:48:58 PM

8/21/2008 10:49:22 PM

mmmmmmmm, veiney tits

8/21/2008 10:50:41 PM

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"oh, I'm sure it's having an effect. but the effect is so minimal at this point as to make it unimportant. it is the equivalent of pissing into niagara falls"

that's not what my BS in environmental toxicology taught me

but hey, i'm sure you know more than THEY did

8/21/2008 10:52:14 PM

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"oh, I'm sure it's having an effect. but the effect is so minimal at this point as to make it unimportant. it is the equivalent of pissing into niagara falls"

first of all, REALLY bad analogy because it isn't even close to being that minimal. second of all, that is a shitty stance to take. unimportant? typical conservative response. "well, it isn't going to cause problems in my lifetime, so why should I give a shit?" yeah, you are right. who gives a shit about your great great grandkids, you'll be long gone before they have stay indoors due to unbearable ozone depletion.

8/21/2008 10:53:09 PM

^ ummm, no, it's unimportant because it is having NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER in comparison to the REAL DRIVERS OF OUR CLIMATE. this has nothing to do w/ "it won't affect me right now." This is "it will never affect me because it doesn't exist."

^^ hey, feel free to enlighten us. I'd love to hear some actual evidence for the AGW argument at this point, because it's all been shot down, especially within the past couple months. THe sad part is, the American media is so hyped up to sell green shit to everyone now that we won't ever hear about it until the polar bears are in fucking florida.

8/21/2008 10:56:53 PM

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"who gives a shit about your great great grandkids, you'll be long gone before they have stay indoors due to unbearable ozone depletion."

Finally someone else who understands

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"I have a science related degree so I have done the research, and I understand both sides."

case closed then?

[Edited on August 21, 2008 at 11:05 PM. Reason : 2]

8/21/2008 11:03:13 PM

My only point is, you can argue the science of GW all you want. Trust me, I have a science related degree so I have done the research, and I understand both sides. And you can throw out all the political buzz phrases like "Al Gore" to fire everyone up all you want to make it a political issue. But the fact remains that there are things that you can do every day that cost you nothing, cause no inconvenience to you, and MOST LIKELY will make life better for future generations. So, I ask you, why not make a few minor changes in your lifestyle that JUST MIGHT have an effect down the road?

I know it is hard for Republicans to think about the future, but you can't argue with common sense.

8/21/2008 11:03:33 PM

^ that's a great argument for conserving on an individual level. It's a horrible argument, though, for wrecking our entire economy in the name of an imaginary boogey-man such as AGW. I have nothing against conserving energy. I do it myself.

8/21/2008 11:06:47 PM

damn i really want to have this argument, but I have an 8AM meeting so I have to go to bed. i really hope someone that is at least half as intelligent as me can step up and give you a run. but i highly doubt it

8/21/2008 11:08:23 PM

hey man, anytime. but, likie I said, take it to TSB.

8/21/2008 11:08:53 PM

nah, i come here for entertainment. if I want to have political discussions I will just hang out wth my friends. all of them are redneck ultra-conservatives

8/21/2008 11:11:19 PM

haha, the worst types. the equivalent of the liberal hippie douches who just scream AGW all day long because they saw a movie

8/21/2008 11:12:24 PM

they are the "I am a Republican because my daddy told me I was" types, so we have some entertaining discussions.

8/21/2008 11:14:25 PM

set em up

8/21/2008 11:18:25 PM