Long time since I posted a topic in chit chat, but I had to post this. I'm so so so scared.

If you are curious about Palin's religious thoughts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K_1Eit0pxM

Palin's churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical by the Assemblies of God in 1949. This is the same 'Spiritual Warfare' movement that was featured in the award winning movie, "Jesus Camp," which showed young children being trained to do battle for the Lord.

A new breed of super Christians will have powers to get messages directly from God, heal the sick, and lay claim for God to cities across the world through "strategic level spiritual warfare" against territorial demons. You will see 'slaying in the spirit' by cell phone anointing, visions of a portal to Jesus on the third floor, and accounts of a village being saved by expelling a witch.

9/9/2008 9:46:52 AM

ok

9/9/2008 9:48:07 AM

here we go again

its looking like tww is gonna suck until at least march or april

9/9/2008 9:48:34 AM

im actually kinda happy ill be out of the country during most of october.

it'll be nice to fade the us media during the brunt of it

9/9/2008 9:49:37 AM

Because Internet people are always honest

9/9/2008 9:49:48 AM

hi travis!

and no, I'm not gonna post any more than I have been. this is a special case.

enjoy twwers!

9/9/2008 9:49:55 AM

don't forget about the november - january part where half of the brainwashed masses are going to be moving out of the country

i just don't know which half yet

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 9:50 AM. Reason : ^ sup george how you been]

9/9/2008 9:50:38 AM

OH NO!

really, why does a candidate's religion matter? Whether McCain, Obama, Biden or Palin are Muslim, Buddhist, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, Pentecostal, Mormon, whatever, I don't give a flying butt fuck.

As long as they're not Scientologists

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 9:53 AM. Reason : ]

9/9/2008 9:52:46 AM

she's pentecostal

that's the thick and thin of it

it's going to be a burden on their campaign

9/9/2008 9:54:15 AM

A candidate's religion ALWAYS matters, because it lets you know their ways of thinking. In this case, it involves god coming through a cellphone and speaking in tongues. It doesn't bother you that she believes this shit and could conceivably be president? She'll be doing exorcisms on the whitehouse lawn or something. I'm frightened.

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 9:56 AM. Reason : .]

9/9/2008 9:55:19 AM

frightened about religion so much that you came here to preach to us.

can we get a review from the irony police? i think i found a real one.

9/9/2008 9:57:26 AM

if a president allows his/her religious beliefs influence their domestic and/or foreign policies, then they're doing it wrong.

and I know it's inevitable.

but the fact stands that they're doing it wrong.

9/9/2008 9:58:49 AM

yeah, for real

allows one's core beliefs to affect one's judgment is totally way off base

9/9/2008 9:59:34 AM

boortz is coming on, i'd rather be brainwashed than him than by tww

LATER

9/9/2008 10:00:52 AM

^^

Quote :

"I know it's inevitable."

Religious ethics should be kept out of politics, plain and simple.

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 10:02 AM. Reason : ]

9/9/2008 10:01:59 AM

Not frightened of religion, frightened of crazy fringe religions. I'm not afraid of preaching, so no irony here. It's a good try though, trav. Good try.

9/9/2008 10:04:24 AM

Jackleg is "king" (cwidt) of calling people "sheep" and "brainwashed." He's always been like this, all narcissistic people are.

9/9/2008 10:06:43 AM

Quote :

"really, why does a candidate's religion matter? Whether McCain, Obama, Biden or Palin are Muslim, Buddhist, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, Pentecostal, Mormon, whatever, I don't give a flying butt fuck. "

i dont either as long as they're not fundamentalist anything

pentacostals however are pretty crazy

9/9/2008 10:16:49 AM

cell phone annointing, fire through the phones? Seriously?

9/9/2008 10:27:09 AM

double post!

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 10:33 AM. Reason : oh no!]

9/9/2008 10:28:35 AM

Jeremiah Wright -vs- Jesus Camp

Battle Royale.

9/9/2008 10:29:02 AM

I read where she believes some nazarene walked on water and raised the dead. I mean come on, what sane person could buy into that?

9/9/2008 10:55:22 AM

Not me. That's crazy enough, but then when you get to this rolling around on the floor speaking in tongues thing, phew!

Witchcraft!

9/9/2008 11:00:01 AM

I think this is where they developed HIV.

9/9/2008 11:01:19 AM

I really think that this is not a topic that democrats want to bring up being that Obama grew up a Muslim, and more recently has been going to a church that preaches "Anti-America" ideas. That is MUCH more frightening to me than Palin being a conservative christian.

9/9/2008 12:20:11 PM

Actually, Obama was not raised anything. He went to both Muslim and Catholic schools when he was growing up. He was pretty much an atheist until he met Rev. Wright in 1980, and that is when he was "saved". As any good Christian will tell you, it doesn't matter what you did in your past, as long as you now accept Christ as your lord and savior. In fact, many Christians make it their life's mission to "save" those that have not yet accepted Christ. So, if you want to play the Christian card, then you should be able to ignore his past and be thankful that he has "seen the light"

fucking hypocrite.

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : a]

9/9/2008 12:30:18 PM

^Thank you

9/9/2008 12:39:10 PM

Politics aside, I'd rather have a practicing Muslim in any position of power than a person who speaks in tongues and freaks out all over the place like the people in that video. I'm not saying Palin is one of those people, but they scare me.

9/9/2008 12:41:40 PM

better yet, how about "religion aside, I would rather a politician that actually has a plan to fix the fucking mess that our country has become"

9/9/2008 12:44:38 PM

^word

9/9/2008 12:47:02 PM

yeah...that would be bringing politics into it.

9/9/2008 12:53:33 PM

Quote :

"Religious ethics should be kept out of politics, plain and simple."

and it is for the most part, unless it's convenient to harm another side.

Case in point: Adultery. Kept completely out of politics, as people on both sides fuck all sorts of people except for the wives they're married to. It's a commonality of both the rights and the lefts from a politician standpoint (note: politicians, not pundits and bloggers)

However, when it becomes an issue which is solely based on religious ethics, that the vast majority of politicians do NOT subscribe to, such as homosexuality, then it becomes heavily influenced on religious ethics out of convenience.

so basically politics rapes religion, and overall, is more harmful to our society than religion is, imho.

9/9/2008 12:58:02 PM

Wow, you're so right. I can't imagine anyone with religious beliefs being able to run for any kind of public office. Must've been a fluke that people like that managed to found this entire goddamn country.

Please get fucking real and take this stupid shit to the soapbox. Nobody should care who's a Muslim or Pentecostal or god damn FSM worshipper or what-the-hell-ever you want, as long as they can effectively execute their official duties. No one is going to institute a national religion or come to your door pushing shit on you if they get elected to office. They are people too, and they are allowed to have their own religious beliefs, whether you agree with it or not.

There's freedom of religion in this country for a motherfucking reason - so you can do whatever the hell you want to on Sunday mornings, as long as it's legal, and not be discriminated for it.

I'm tired of seeing this shit every single day from you goddamn hypocrites. You can flame away when someone says something even remotely racist or bigoted, but you'll agree all day long with someone that can't stand the idea of religious freedom for public officials.

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2008 1:23:45 PM

i don't want the 1st person on the list to take the office if something happens to the president to be someone who goes to a church where people talk in tongues as they get possessed by the spirit of the lord

what's next? we're gonna get the "bodies hit the floor" minister as secretary of state?

9/9/2008 1:29:27 PM

Quote :

"you can do whatever the hell you want to on Sunday mornings, as long as it's legal, and not be discriminated for it."

9/9/2008 1:30:50 PM

Quote :

"No one is going to institute a national religion or come to your door pushing shit on you if they get elected to office."

This is not the issue, exactly, but it is quite possible for their religious beliefs to interfere - see wanting to institute creationism in the classroom. However, the issue is that I see a problem in a person's psychological makeup if this is what they do on Sundays. That's my opinion, but those people scare the hell out of me, and I don't want them running the country. Not because of what they believe, but because of how they practice it.

9/9/2008 1:33:08 PM

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"Must've been a fluke that people like that managed to found this entire goddamn country"

Oh Jesus Christ... this country was not founded as a Christian nation in any sense that you want it to be

don't give me that "one nation under God" bullshit either cause that was added in 1954

9/9/2008 1:43:26 PM

Quote :

"Palin did ask her audience to pray for a $30 billion natural gas pipeline she is on a mission to build in Alaska. In the video Palin says, "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas pipeline built. So pray for that ... I can do my job there in developing my natural resources. But all of that doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's heart is not good with God.""

Quote :

"Pastor Ed Kalnin, the senior pastor of Palin's former Pentecostal church, has also come under fire for his comments. In 2004, he told church members if they voted for John Kerry for president, they wouldn't get into heaven. He told them, "I question your salvation.""

Quote :

"He told congregants that terrorist attacks on Israel were God's "judgment" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity. Brickner said, "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. When a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it.""

9/9/2008 1:44:25 PM

^on your way to a bad place

9/9/2008 1:44:41 PM

They sure as hell weren't speaking in tongues when they did it.

9/9/2008 1:44:52 PM

are you threatening me with hell?

or do you know that I have to take the train to Manhattan in about an hour and a half?

9/9/2008 1:45:33 PM

The Constitution doesn't mention Christianity, or God, at all. It is a secular document outlining the structure of what would become the new government of this nation.

9/9/2008 1:49:12 PM

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"Oh Jesus Christ... this country was not founded as a Christian nation in any sense that you want it to be"

Don't even put those words in my mouth. I never implied anything about "Christian nations" or any of that crap. It is well known that the founding fathers of this country were religious, and not just from any one group. My point was that simply being religious does not cloud your ability to think rationally, so there is no reason to discriminate against someone simply because of what they choose to believe.

I'm sorry you're so "anti-christian" that you feel the need to jump on me for (apparently) trying to push it on you. Grow the fuck up and realize that not everyone who respects others' religious freedom is a bible-thumping christian.

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 1:58 PM. Reason : and move to TSB]

9/9/2008 1:57:05 PM

I am an anti-theist

why does everyone tell me to grow up when I say that?

aren't my religious beliefs to be held "sacred" too?

9/9/2008 2:06:34 PM

so this balances out the rantings of obama's 'former' pastor?

9/9/2008 2:08:15 PM

^^because you have to be a grown up to believe in a mythical being that lives in the sky watching over us all

[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 2:09 PM. Reason : a]

9/9/2008 2:09:27 PM

"lives in the sky"


........ tidbits like this make me doubt your mental age

9/9/2008 2:10:15 PM

^ and comments like that make me doubt your ability to not take the internet seriously

9/9/2008 2:11:55 PM

^6

our founding fathers were not religious. you are mistaken

"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter, 1787

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."
--Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
--Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect."
--James Madison, letter to William Bradford, April 1, 1774

9/9/2008 2:15:30 PM

OH SNAP!

9/9/2008 2:18:26 PM