Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
I mean really, REALLY?
9/9/2008 2:11:20 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
by way of? 9/9/2008 2:12:16 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Why would we? 9/9/2008 2:13:03 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
huh? Even I'm not worried about this and I just made that thread about the world ending and shit. 9/9/2008 2:13:48 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Accidental Creation of Black Hole 9/9/2008 2:14:00 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
how many threads do we need for this.
shit isn't even today 9/9/2008 2:14:17 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Your mom is a black hole and she hasn't destroyed the world.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .] 9/9/2008 2:14:41 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
I'm 99% sure that the LHC will not create a black hole and kill us all
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 2:15 PM. Reason : but that 1% is interesting ] 9/9/2008 2:15:24 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
That 1% is a huge fucking chance to take. If it does create a black hole then the world is absolutely fucked. How many times per week do you put your life at risk even 1%? Not very many. Now, we as a planet have decided to put everything at a 1% risk of being destroyed. 9/9/2008 2:16:54 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
who's this we as a planet thing
i didnt get a vote 9/9/2008 2:19:16 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
i like those chances. 9/9/2008 2:19:47 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
It is going to create a black hole, actually thousands of them. Why don't you read up on what's shaking you to your chicken-little foundations before opening your mouth and proving how ignorant of the physics involved you are? 9/9/2008 2:20:03 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
haha EMCE shit is tomorrow morning, this is our last day to discuss the implications!
I read an interview with a scientist that said if a black hole is created it will be to small to have any sort of gravitational pull and will most likely pass through the Earth, even then it would take several hundreds of years before it gets large enough to even be a problem.
WTF THESE THINGS GROW?? 9/9/2008 2:20:20 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That 1% is a huge fucking chance to take. If it does create a black hole then the world is absolutely fucked. How many times per week do you put your life at risk even 1%? Not very many. Now, we as a planet have decided to put everything at a 1% risk of being destroyed." |
I said "I'm 99% sure"
not "THIS THING WILL NOT HURT US 99% OF THE TIME"
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 2:20 PM. Reason : reading comprehension]9/9/2008 2:20:37 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How many times per week do you put your life at risk even 1%?" |
What's the statistical probability to be involved in a fatal car crash?9/9/2008 2:20:59 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That 1% is a huge fucking chance to take. If it does create a black hole then the world is absolutely fucked. How many times per week do you put your life at risk even 1%? Not very many. Now, we as a planet have decided to put everything at a 1% risk of being destroyed." |
Jesus fucking christ... if you HONESTLY believe that there is a 1% chance of the world being destroyed by this you are a fucking idiot...9/9/2008 2:22:01 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^ . 9/9/2008 2:22:54 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how many threads do we need for this." |
yeah, this is number 4 or 5.
no more threads about the LHC.9/9/2008 2:24:05 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who's this we as a planet thing
i didnt get a vote " |
9/9/2008 2:24:54 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
If probably won't create a black hole. So we will be fine.
And if it does create a black hole, then we will still be fine.
Black holes attract other objects by way of gravity, which is determined by the mass of the objects which created the black hole.
How much gravity do you think 2 particles smashed together will produce? 9/9/2008 2:25:02 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "WTF THESE THINGS GROW??" |
You don't even know what a black hole does, but you're worried to death about it? I wish you were circling the event horizon right now.9/9/2008 2:25:50 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
they're turning it on tomorrow.
no one knows if it'll actually work. I doubt they're actually going to run the experiments tomorrow. if it does work, and a black hole is created.....AND actually grows, we STILL wouldn't be dying tomorrow.... 9/9/2008 2:26:35 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
^^ well enlighten the rest of the 99.9% of the population that doesnt.
instead of acting like an elitist ass hat 9/9/2008 2:27:39 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Black holes attract other objects by way of gravity, which is determined by the mass of the objects which created the black hole.
How much gravity do you think 2 particles smashed together will produce?" |
They're also going to decay in less than the blink of an eye and cease to exist.9/9/2008 2:29:00 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
why would anyone want to circle around such a horrible movie? your an idiot.
9/9/2008 2:29:55 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
I know it sucks everything in and estroys i so that even light can't exist. Other than that, not much. 9/9/2008 2:29:56 PM |
qntmfred retired 40714 Posts user info edit post |
they aren't doing anything remotely world-ending tomorrow. they are sending a proton around the ring one way, then the other way. this is mostly prep stuff to make sure it's ready for the stuff they are doing next month. and then they won't even do the interesting stuff until spring 9/9/2008 2:29:56 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Well from what I've read they're send two beams in opposite directions so they collide, on a very small scale.
SO YEAH END OF WORLD OK 9/9/2008 2:31:07 PM |
parsonsb All American 13206 Posts user info edit post |
on the off chance that it creates a black hole large enough to kill us all, we'll be dead, compressed into a singularity, and it will happen so fast we won't even realize it 9/9/2008 2:31:42 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds painless. 9/9/2008 2:32:31 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
that's what they're eventually going to do.. i think the first stage of "making sure the damn thing works" is to send one at a time around in each direction like fred said
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 2:33 PM. Reason : ^^^] 9/9/2008 2:32:45 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Again, how much mass do two subatomic particles have? So how strong do you think any black hole created would be? You could have one inside an ovary for a split second and never know.
These things happen in nature, in our atmosphere, literally ALL THE TIME.
[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 2:33 PM. Reason : *] 9/9/2008 2:33:03 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
kiwi, come over here so I can spit in your eye. I'll probably stomp on your big toe too... 9/9/2008 2:33:05 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
rightsaidqntmfred 9/9/2008 2:34:06 PM |
fjjackso All American 14538 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How many times per week do you put your life at risk even 1%? Not very many. " |
speak for yourself
pussy9/9/2008 2:34:22 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Why'd you choose ovary of all places??
NO EMCE NO! 9/9/2008 2:34:30 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Would inside your ass be better? 9/9/2008 2:36:45 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
9/9/2008 2:37:30 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i'm waiting for Jake Busey to sabotage it so it blows up 9/9/2008 2:40:24 PM |
CeilingCat All American 1222 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "on the off chance that it creates a black hole large enough to kill us all, we'll be dead, compressed into a singularity, and it will happen so fast we won't even realize it" |
I hope I get smashed into someone hot...maybe David Beckham, you know, on the off chance that death isn't instantaneous. 9/9/2008 2:41:38 PM |
bassjunkie All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
9/9/2008 2:43:38 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
It'd make more sense to call a butthole a blackhole...teehehehe 9/9/2008 2:56:47 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
kiwi do you even understand what's going to happen 9/9/2008 2:58:42 PM |
tsavla All American 6787 Posts user info edit post |
this thread 9/9/2008 2:59:26 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ well enlighten the rest of the 99.9% of the population that doesnt.
instead of acting like an elitist ass hat" |
Ummm, black holes suck in everything....
OF COURSE THEY FUCKING GROW 9/9/2008 3:02:42 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
om nom nom 9/9/2008 3:03:18 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
this thread did a lot better than mine did
it was created by a chick
coincidence? i think not.... 9/9/2008 3:05:01 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89768 Posts user info edit post |
the black hole would take 9 years to eat bigman's left buttcheek 9/9/2008 3:05:42 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
they've been doing particle acceleration and collision studies for a long time, the earth didn't blow up yet 9/9/2008 3:12:38 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
http://blog.wired.com/geekdad/2008/09/the-large-hadro.html
Quote : | "The Large Hadron Collider Will Not Destroy the World Tomorrow, or Ever By Matt Blum EmailSeptember 09, 2008 | 7:30:00 AMCategories: Physics
Lhc You'd better read this today, because it's possible the world will end tomorrow. Strictly speaking, the probability of doomsday isn't any higher than it is on any normal Wednesday, but there's been a fair bit of kerfuffle and hullabaloo over the CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and whether it will create a black hole that will destroy the entire planet. There's even been a rap written about it.
Now, more skilled scientific minds than mine have debunked these doomsayers, but the stories are out there, and kids are bound to hear them. They're bound to have questions, including wanting to know what a hadron is, why scientists want to smash them together, and, by the way, are these European scientists about to suck the world into a black hole? Well, if they've taken high school chemistry, they've probably learned about protons and neutrons, so you can explain that both of those are in fact types of hadrons. You probably don't want to get into their valence quarks, unless you really understand quantum physics and don't mind your kids tuning you out. As for why they're doing it, it boils down to the search for the Higgs boson, also called the "God Particle," which is the only elementary particle that has never been observed by science. If your kids ask why that's so important, point out that it was nuclear research that led to the creation of the Internet, and they may just finally understand why science is so important! If they're also interested in how the LHC works, point them to this explanation on HowStuffWorks.
Now, the other question is a bit tougher, because you (I assume) don't want to outright lie to your kids, but you don't want to alarm them, either. It is actually possible, as I understand it, that the experiment will create subatomic black holes that will last a tiny fraction of a second before collapsing. But the likelihood of these black holes becoming the more well-known kind of black hole is nearly nonexistent.
That being said, if you've raised your kids in the proper GeekDad fashion, they'll have read a lot of science fiction by the time they hit high school. And sci-fi is, of course, full of stories about scientists with good intentions going too far and causing horrible consequences. So it's entirely understandable if your kids are a bit concerned about what's going on on the border between Switzerland and France.
My advice? Just tell them that there's really no chance at all that the world will end in the wee hours of the morning tomorrow. Seriously, how many times can you tell your kids something about the future without even the slightest worry you'll be proved wrong? If you tell them that and you're wrong, I guarantee your kids will never confront you about it.
OK, that may not have been as reassuring as I'd intended. Sorry about that. Seriously, unless every preeminent physicist in the world is very wrong, the LHC is perfectly safe. That's good enough for me." |
9/9/2008 3:17:15 PM |