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ThePeter
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October 4th on CBS



I haven't been following his professional career too closely, but this seems like a bigger card than his previous fights and should be a good match.

9/21/2008 5:50:42 PM

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Interesting fight.

Brawler on the way up and a very experienced fighter on the way out.

9/21/2008 5:53:26 PM

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He had gotten called out by a number of fighters and Ken ended up with the fight:

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"The 44-year-old Shamrock (26-13-2) beat out fellow candidates Sean Gannon and Brett Rogers (Pictures), who called out Slice in May, for the coveted slot. "


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/8/25/600925/kimbo-slice-vs-ken-shamroc

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"MMARated.com has learned that despite the fact that Ken Shamrock was chosen over Brett Rogers to face Kimbo Slice on the next EliteXC on CBS card on October 4th, Rogers' camp has been told by EliteXC officials that he will face the winner of that fight sometime in the future."

9/21/2008 5:58:41 PM

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Very good fight for casual fans. Although neither can be considered elite fighters, they are two of the biggest names in the sport to casual fans. I haven't watched much MMA since I used to rent the early UFC tapes while in middle school, but I still consider myself a Ken Shamrock fan and hope he can win. Although Slice is not that young, the up and coming fighter against a legend on the decline is always a good angle and would help give Slice some credibility if he wins.

9/21/2008 8:02:00 PM

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Shamrock got beat down by Tito and as much as I hate to say it, Kimbo is going destroy Ken.

He just hits so much harder than Tito.

[Edited on September 22, 2008 at 4:25 PM. Reason : and can Kimbo fuckin fight someone that is UNDER 40]

[Edited on September 22, 2008 at 4:30 PM. Reason : Lesnar vs Kimbo would be the SHIT]

9/22/2008 4:25:24 PM

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Kimbo will own Shamrock. I don't even know why this fight was scheduled. I'd put my money on a KO, first round, probably first minute, going to Kimbo.

Shamrock is a washed out old man. He couldn't even beat a no namer from the UK a few months ago.

9/22/2008 4:41:30 PM

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he's lost the last 5 fights in a row


he is going to get seriously hurt and it will cause a huge controversy for the sport

[Edited on September 22, 2008 at 4:43 PM. Reason : .]

9/22/2008 4:42:10 PM

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the biggest thing that ken shamrock ever did

was referee the bret hart/steve austin double-turn submission match at wrestlemania 13

9/22/2008 4:43:50 PM

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that is just wrong

9/22/2008 4:45:09 PM

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"Lesnar vs Kimbo would be the SHIT"


Why in the world would anyone pay PPV type money to see the most overhyped underskilled behemoths in MMA fight?

Hopefully both of them will get their shit kicked in (unlikely with shamrock on the other side) so people will quit talking about them.

9/22/2008 4:57:27 PM

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brock lesnar is a worthless human being

bad talker

bad football player

bad fighter

bad pro wrestler

9/22/2008 5:42:39 PM

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Ken in his prime would have whipped Kimbo.

That being said...

Kimbo will win via KO.

9/22/2008 5:54:25 PM

ndmetcal
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kimbo loses....to shamrocks replacement

can we get off this clown's nuts now?

10/4/2008 11:12:39 PM

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so what happened to ken?

10/4/2008 11:14:50 PM

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was that fight real?

10/4/2008 11:15:54 PM

ndmetcal
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got a nasty cut in his warmups & doctors wouldn't let him fight...something about state laws of florida for fighting or something

10/4/2008 11:16:08 PM

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KIMBO DOWN! In about ten fucking seconds--just shows that there's a lot of technique in MMA.

10/4/2008 11:16:54 PM

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or perhaps they're working an angle

ken punks out on kimbo

petruzelli becomes a new name fighter

kimbo has a revenge fight

etc. etc.

10/4/2008 11:19:12 PM

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mma meets wwe? i hear ya

10/4/2008 11:19:50 PM

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that was the most anticlimatic thing i have ever seen.

but...

ITS ALL GOOD WE STILL HAVIN THE AFTER PARTY

10/4/2008 11:20:17 PM

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kimbo seemed pretty happy for a loser...hmmmmmm ...staged?

10/4/2008 11:20:26 PM

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Once again this proves what a joke Kimbo is and what a joke Elite XC is for placing all there nuts in the Kimbo side show basket.

Keep signing has beens from the UFC too. My how Andrei Arlovski has fallen.

10/4/2008 11:21:54 PM

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from wikipedia...

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"Ferguson currently lives with his family in Miami, and is the father of six children: three girls and three boys. His first two sons are named Kevin, and the third is named Kevlar. His three daughters are named Kassandra, Kiara, & Kevina"


10/4/2008 11:31:07 PM

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hahah there goes kimbo's 15 minutes of fame, back to the street alleys

10/4/2008 11:36:37 PM

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post it on youtube

10/4/2008 11:37:09 PM

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krazedgirl do you live at kensington park?

10/4/2008 11:49:33 PM

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"Keep signing has beens from the UFC too. My how Andrei Arlovski has fallen."


actually Roy Nelson is a solid freakin fighter and arlovski won so i dont see how he has "fallen"

Kimbo will be aiight he needed that loss now maybe the elitexc hype train will get off him and kimbo can just train and get better without all that extra BS surroundin him...he is 1-1 against decent, experienced fighters so thats by no means the end of his career

i hate the way the announcers acted like Seth beating Kimbo was the biggest thing to ever happen in MMA...hell no

and lol at Ninja losing, dude just cant ever seem to maintain any momentum

[Edited on October 5, 2008 at 12:18 AM. Reason : c]

10/5/2008 12:16:39 AM

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did shamrock shave kimbos beard in the ring?

10/5/2008 1:51:23 AM

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so did kimbo just throw this fight or what

10/5/2008 1:58:16 AM

ThePeter
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did kimbo lose to doctor stoppage then?

10/5/2008 2:00:29 AM

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"On October 4, 2008 Shamrock was warming up and received a head butt and needed 6 stitches and was not able to compete against Slice. The doctor who examined Ken said he would not be able to compete for at least 45 days because of the injury."

10/5/2008 3:19:32 AM

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must be an intense pre-fight ritual

10/5/2008 3:53:22 AM

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I see Elite XC as a comparison to WCW vs. WWF/E

Elite XC is WCW just after Ted Turner formed it going after fighters that were stars in UFC such as Shamrock, Arlovski, and Tito to make a name for itself. It went after a sideshow (Kimbo Slice) and forced UFC to pull a similar move (Brock Lesnar). It will be interesting to see if Elite XC's lesser known fighters can step up and take the bull by the horns and become a competitor to the UFC. Right now I would say not, Kimbo is not a good pro fighter he has too many bad habits and a trained fighter will take advantage of his weaknesses. See last night. Kimbo didn't care about the loss because he probably negotiated the winners purse from if he fought Shamrock just to step into the cage with Petrazelli. Kimbo got paid which is why he didn't care that he lost.

10/5/2008 10:55:02 AM

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"Elite XC is WCW just after Ted Turner formed it going after fighters that were stars in UFC such as Shamrock, Arlovski, and Tito to make a name for itself. It went after a sideshow (Kimbo Slice) and forced UFC to pull a similar move (Brock Lesnar). It will be interesting to see if Elite XC's lesser known fighters can step up and take the bull by the horns and become a competitor to the UFC"



Theres nothin wrong with starting up an org like that if you can pay the fighters. the problem with eliteXC is that they are not even promoting any of there lesser known fighters. Hell they hadnt even been promoting their champions (KJ Noons..lol well ex-champion, Robbie Lawler, Jake Shields, and...hell i dont even know) All they have promoted is Gina Carano, Kimbo, and Nick Diaz (who doesnt really need the promotion)so they have puit all their egs in one basket and sooner or later it will get old to even the most casual of fans

Look at WEC, that org is doing a great job of promoting all their fighters and champions. Casual fans know who Miguel torres, pulver, urijah, Brian Stann, curran, etc. WEC took names from the UFC as well, but at least they are promoting all their fighters and not filling all their cards with the same god damn headliners every show

im not even getting into the trashy boxing type antics and totally contrived pre-fight scuffles.

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"See last night. Kimbo didn't care about the loss because he probably negotiated the winners purse from if he fought Shamrock just to step into the cage with Petrazelli. Kimbo got paid which is why he didn't care that he lost."


to say kimbo didnt care about the loss is a little BS, all it was was kimbo being classy about it. notice that he didnt exactly hang around very long, im sure he went backstage and broke down. I think any fighter in the world would care aout being KOd by a jab in 14 seconds i dont care how much money you make.

[Edited on October 5, 2008 at 11:18 AM. Reason : xs]

10/5/2008 11:14:18 AM

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slice is a fagg0t.

didnt even wanna tap gloves in the beginning. im glad he lost.

10/5/2008 12:33:47 PM

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Elite XC will never be legit because it is on network tv. They have to worry too much about the blood factor and people getting seriously hurt. That worry for censorship will cause fights to get stopped early, case in point in both of Kimbo's fights. Neither of those fights needed to be stopped when they did. Its fun to watch for the fact that i dont have to pay for it but it wont last.

10/5/2008 12:47:05 PM

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alot of fighter dont like to tap gloves because an opponent can use ti to find their range


i dont care about glove taps as long as the guy who doesnt want to do it doesnt haul off and attack while the other guy is tryna touch gloves

just a simpe shake of the head sayin "no" is the proper etiquette,

i agree about the network tv thing, there are too many BS stoppages...the worst was the last gina carano fight where kaitlin young got a small cut and the doc came in and stopped it between rounds

10/5/2008 12:50:02 PM

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^ fair enough.

but he just thinks he's kind sh*t..

glad he got put in his place. staged or not.

btw mr craw, your bout is next sat? what time and where in danville?

10/5/2008 1:59:57 PM

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"i dont care about glove taps as long as the guy who doesnt want to do it doesnt haul off and attack while the other guy is tryna touch gloves"


don't go giving my strategy away

10/5/2008 2:29:18 PM

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lol at kimbo throwing this fight, this was devestating for his career

10/5/2008 3:30:24 PM

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haha, when did he start fighting professionally, 34? you don't start a career at 34, you just get a new job. this fight will likely cost him his most recent job. I like his odds of cashing in on the next series of hobo-fight videos though

[Edited on October 5, 2008 at 3:47 PM. Reason : and by cashing in, i mean getting a meal a day]

10/5/2008 3:47:01 PM

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kimbo should start back fighting in backyards. thats when i first saw him. this MMA semi-professional sh!t is trash. its not even a sport.

10/5/2008 4:58:42 PM

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After watching last night, this is the last time I'll dedicate any time to EliteXC. Anyone who follows MMA knew it was just a matter of time before Kimbo lost. I mean seth petruzzeli if I remember correctly was on The Ultimate Fighter and didn't even make it to the end. I really dislike the presentation and the announcing. It sucks Kimbo wasn't able to work his way into fighting the right way and possibly legitimately make a name for himself. That being said, I'm not on the Brock Lesnar train, but lets be honest, comparing him and kimbo isn't really fair. Kimbo just lost to seth petruzelli while brock lesnar just finished dominating heath herring. The most interesting matchup of the night was Roy vs Arlovski. I just see elitexc as a bad product and haven't really enjoyed it either time I've watched. I also agree that it was ridiculous hearing the announcers go crazy about kimbo losing...seriously?

10/5/2008 8:58:58 PM

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I haven't followed brock but if the guy was a national champion in wrestling he can't be that bad

10/5/2008 10:05:01 PM

ThePeter
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That wasn't even a fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur4GfOJ9Q7U&feature=related

The beatdown is around 2:30ish

10/6/2008 1:37:03 AM

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Wait, I thought this was supposed to be real. I just watched the video, and it was slightly more believable than wrestling.

10/6/2008 7:27:13 AM

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Interestingly familiar

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 11:59 AM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 11:58:17 AM

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dna strand from a silverback

10/6/2008 12:02:17 PM

MikeHancho
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Ortiz said he is coming back

10/6/2008 5:14:28 PM

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meet the manly man who beat kimbo



http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-man-who-felled-kimbo

10/6/2008 8:50:23 PM

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