Any of you kids got one yet?

Quote :

"North Carolina drivers under the age of 21: Your licenses just got makeovers. The Department of Motor Vehicles on Wednesday began printing the first vertically formatted licenses and state IDs for residents under the legal drinking age. State officials and lawmakers pushed for the change earlier this year to help bartenders and clerks easily identify underage customers."

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/3650782/

10/1/2008 1:02:55 PM

gay

10/1/2008 1:03:09 PM

I thought the yellow/green code was easy enough.

10/1/2008 1:03:59 PM

do underage people ever actually show their real ID when buying alcohol? this seems pointless

10/1/2008 1:04:27 PM

makes it harder to modify an existing license

10/1/2008 1:08:22 PM

good job, nc

fucking kids

10/1/2008 1:10:12 PM

^^ah, i didn't think of that

10/1/2008 1:11:46 PM

hahaha

10/1/2008 1:12:25 PM

This is a great use of tax dollars.

10/1/2008 1:13:44 PM

I feel safer already.

10/1/2008 1:14:12 PM

people look at me funny in ga when i show them my nc license that says under 21

fuck spending an additional $10 and my time to get an updated version

10/1/2008 1:21:15 PM

that's how my pennsylvania license is.

i haven't bothered to get an over 21 one.

10/1/2008 1:22:42 PM

^^ I've used my "under 21" ID in many states and nobody ever gave me a hard time for it. lots of states have something similar , they just look at your bithday

10/1/2008 1:23:37 PM

Quote :

"State officials and lawmakers pushed for the change earlier this year to help bartenders and clerks easily identify underage customers"

Cause it takes SOOOOO long to actually read someone's birthday on their license.

10/1/2008 1:24:48 PM

I just ordered a new license online with a change of address. Does anyone know if that will remove the under 21 thing/not make mine sideways if I didn't order in time to have it made before the change? It says you get a "duplicate" of the license you already hold, but you get to choose which background you want and obviously change your address, so I would assume they would take that off too ... not that it really matters but I like having answers.

Apparently they aren't all very good at looking at birthdays. I got wished "happy belated 21st birthday" this weekend ... a year and a half after I turned 21, but whatever.

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2008 1:26:19 PM

Quote :

"I feel safer already."

10/1/2008 1:26:30 PM

^^that's still belated

10/1/2008 1:28:35 PM

Heh, yes, I suppose it is.

10/1/2008 1:29:08 PM

Quote :

"Drivers who hold horizontal licenses don't have to get new ones."

so explain why this cost the taxpayers a lot of money? a few changes to the settings in the software and i bet they were done.

10/1/2008 1:30:11 PM

Quote :

"I've used my "under 21" ID in many states and nobody ever gave me a hard time for it. lots of states have something similar , they just look at your bithday"

well no shit they look at the birthday

they just pause when they initially see it

10/1/2008 1:40:37 PM

I guess this will only prevent youngin's from scratching their bday's to make them older.

but does that still work? Rarely, I'd say.

Good waste of money NC! Fucking retarded state politcians.

10/1/2008 1:46:20 PM

^explain how it cost so much money

10/1/2008 1:49:04 PM

NC congress took time to debate/vote on this. new license formats would entail a new template, thus that must be paid for.

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM. Reason : time = money, y0.]

10/1/2008 1:50:07 PM

guys... this really doesn't cost much of anything in tax dollars

i mean, other than if you consider the time spent discussing it as the waste... otherwise it literally is a minor change to the printing software

and by minor change, i mean choosing the vertical template rather than the horizontal one.

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 1:52 PM. Reason : ...]

10/1/2008 1:51:20 PM

if they're not up there fucking around with licenses they're still gonna be up there jacking off on some other item though. and i bet it took very little time to switch the software over to a vertical format.

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 1:52 PM. Reason : ^yep]

10/1/2008 1:51:58 PM

any waste by our state government pisses me off. for decades this state has had horrible elected officials, wasting money, deficits out the ass, misappropriate of tax dollars.

any time and money spent on this license thing is a complete waste. there are much bigger issues than some kid drinking a beer.

10/1/2008 1:53:07 PM

might as well get used to it. don't get bent out of shape over piddly shit like this.

10/1/2008 1:54:35 PM

I'm not bent out of shape, I'm just tired of our state government doing stupid shit.

10/1/2008 1:55:00 PM

run for office, i'll vote for you

10/1/2008 1:55:42 PM

lol. write me in

10/1/2008 1:56:00 PM

well public education funds certainly appear to have been misappropriate, but other than that...

So what would you have them spend their time on? Making new laws that people like you would just bitch about or perhaps getting rid of old laws that will result in people bitching just as much?

How about they just start giving out free blowjobs, then maybe they can make SOME of the people happy?

10/1/2008 1:56:47 PM

lawlz

10/1/2008 1:57:17 PM

how about:

- repairing/updating NC economy
- nc housing market
- public education, to include ever increasing college tuition
- getting rid of all these stupid lottery debates/lawsuits/etc
- public transportation edit: transportation infrastructure mainly (clear up any confusion among semantics)
- natural resources conservation
- water quality/supply

to name a few

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 1:59 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 2:17 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2008 1:59:07 PM

So you want them to save the planet while putting in public transportation (which would have to be a better bus system, as we don't have the infrastructure for subway or elevated rail systems within the city).

Then you want them to stop talking about the lottery WHICH IS SET UP TO AID IN FUNDING THE PUBLIC EDUCATION PROBLEM YOU HAVE.

Then you want them to solve the housing market and recent economic downturn, which are both wholly federal issues.

Your plan is faultless, sir.

10/1/2008 2:05:28 PM

man, you're full of stupid

- I didn't say save the planet. I said we need to solve our water quality/supply problems and conserve natural resources, such as wetlands, which aid in water quality and storing flood waters.

- The current lottery lawsuits, etc. are claiming that it is a tax and did not go through the proper channels, thus politicians are trying to get rid of the lottery. I know it goes to help education, which I support. I DON'T SUPPORT THESE MORONS TRYING TO REPEAL THE LOTTERY.

- I said nothing about a rail/bus system. Those are good ideas, but would probably not work in NC, thus I do not approve these ideas. and improving our public transportation entails improving roads, highways, signal timing/phasing, etc., which can reduce pollution

- And do you really think NC doesn't have its own housing/economy problems, not related to the federal issues right now?

How about you read what I wrote, don't assume stupid shit, and get an education?

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2008 2:09:20 PM

A better bus system would be baller. Preferably, I'd like to see a subway system, but that is astoundingly unfeasible.

10/1/2008 2:11:08 PM

^in cities? yes, better bus systems would be awesome.

as for rail, I don't think it would work well at all. However, the charlotte rail system may prove me wrong. our current rail system is a failure, so I see no reason to believe a new one would be any better. but I could be wrong

10/1/2008 2:12:35 PM

I didn't infer that you meant "preserve the wetlands and other natural areas" when i said "save the planet", of course not. Oh wait, I guess my phrasing made you feel like i was saying it like was a bad thing.

And the water quality thing goes to regulation of emissions and pollution, which we will cause more and more of if we keep rebuilding all of the roads. People don't want to give more of their income in taxes to the DoT, and don't want toll roads, and don't want more taxation on the gas. But they want to somehow fix the infrastructure with that magical equipment that doesn't cost anything to run and miracles up its own resources.

Water supply is greatly influenced by how much precipitation we get, which, as of the last month or so, more and more of the state is out of drought conditions and the rest of the state that is still in drought conditions is moving out of them.

And I know that the state has it's own housing and economic issues, but until the Federal government get's it's head out of its ass and fixes its end, the state stuff will still be fucked regardless of how much time they spend on it. People are scared to get loans to buy houses because of interest rates and banks failing and houses getting repossessed and are not spending money because of the recent drop in the stock market, which was again caused by shit in the federal government. I understand that we have our own issues, but those are really not something that a lot can be done about at this time.

And maybe we can keep this a little more civil as a discussion rather than lashing out and making accusations of one another.

I'm merely saying that the little time spent on the licenses is really not a big enough of a deal to start bitching about how it is a waste of tax dollars. If nothing else, it will save a lot of people a lot of time and worry over the fact that if they still serve that person who has modified their license, they are sill legally liable for whatever that person does.

10/1/2008 2:38:28 PM

Virginia does this

10/1/2008 2:40:58 PM

so do a lot of other states...

10/1/2008 2:41:48 PM

IM JUST SAYIN'....

10/1/2008 2:42:12 PM

as am i.

10/1/2008 2:42:32 PM

WE COULD GET SHIT DONE IF NOBODY EVER ARGUED!

GET RID OF THE PARTY SYSTEM, WDPRICE3 FOR GOVERN-TATOR!

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2008 2:46:31 PM

the "little" time spent on this, plus the "little" time spent on these needless lottery repeals, plus the "little" time spent on so much other trivial/wasteful stuff adds up.

improving transportation != more pollution, if done properly. in fact, the opposite is true. If this state didn't waste so much money, more money could go to the DOT, without an increase in any taxes. Besides, we have billions of dollars for our infrastructure, much of it keeps getting wasted/tied up in pet projects.

water supply is still an issue and you can't say we can't do anything about it because its completely weather controlled. Water conservation, new water sources, improving the quality of existing water bodies, and new technologies should all be discussed. soon enough, this state may need desalinization plants.

and just because we have federal economic/housing issues, doesn't mean we forget about ours. we should be trying to find solutions to them to improve our economy, and when the national economy rebounds, our state economy will hopefully sky rocket.

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ^you're fucking right doggie]

[Edited on October 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM. Reason : -e]

10/1/2008 2:46:42 PM

I vote that senior citizens get diagonal licenses

10/1/2008 2:50:40 PM

I still have my "under 21" license. I'm 23. Too lazy to go to the DMV.

10/1/2008 2:52:43 PM

I'm 24 with my under 21 license

I like the picture in it, it's back when I still had all my hair

10/1/2008 2:53:53 PM

Quote :

"do underage people ever actually show their real ID when buying alcohol? this seems pointless"

that's what i was thinking

10/1/2008 2:55:10 PM

Well I was born in 84, so people could scratch the 4 into a 1 pretty easily.

10/1/2008 2:56:52 PM

I didn't say that the water supply deal was COMPLETELY weather controlled. I said greatly. Being that without precipitation, there is no water to conserve, really. And you know what happened when they implemented regulations to conserve water? People ignored it. They said "fuck you, i want green grass around my house and my car to SHINE!" Now sure, that is a small example of the situation, but a lot of larger water consumers were more strictly held to the regulations on use of the public water supply during that time. It still took a lot of rain to get us out of that. So that problem, with the recent rain, is slowly going away. And you will never get people to buy into conservation efforts to protect us in the future. The public is largely too short-sighted to care.

And yes, we have lots of money that is for our transportation infrastructure, but the DOT runs through that in no time because of how much it costs to do anything. My words about people wanting the roads fixed, but not wanting to pony up and pay for it, still stand.

And trying to fix the local economy outside of the federal stuff is kind of like calling a doctor and saying "I have a headache" and he tells you to come in and when you get there, he has this plan to cut the tumor out of your brain. Which is too bad seeing as how you just have a hangover.*

You can't fix the problem before you know exactly what the problem is. Now you can set up contingencies and plans, but you can't fix anything yet, really.

*I fully recognize how bad of an illustration that is, but i am rushed, as i have to go soon.

10/1/2008 2:58:35 PM