who uses it? Can you offer some opinions about it.

Has anyone ever had any really bad experiences with it?

Is it hard to be prescribed?

10/5/2008 6:43:51 PM

people with a.d.d. or a.d.h.d. mostly use it. It will make you lose sleep the first few times you take it.
You have to have a pretty good reason to get it.

10/5/2008 6:46:34 PM

my husband was prescribed it to keep him awake due to the medicines he was taking that usually made him sleep - he became addicted to it and then when he was taken off of it, he resorted to energy drinks every hr to feel like he was 'normal' again

I was prescribed it to help me concentrate in school due to stress I was under - I took it maybe a week, and the entire time I felt so bad - it made my heart race, gave me headaches, I couldn't concentrate at all, I absolutely just blew up at everyone, I refused to take it after that - same thing happened to me with ritalin, will never take it again

why do you need it?

10/5/2008 8:51:40 PM

^ not in all situations, when you're on the verge of a nervous breakdown because things are just falling apart in your world and you don't want to drop out of school so you try to get a little help in focusing because your mind concentrates on the 9 billion other things that are fucking up your life at that moment, it might just help - in my case, it was the complete opposite and made me feel like shit, but in no way did I not have any will power, I just refused to give up

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10/5/2008 8:54:39 PM

http://www.erowid.org, look up "amphetamines".

Or just go take a small dose (5-10 mg), not like its gonna kill you.

10/5/2008 9:02:52 PM

using adderall solely as a finals cram/study aid is just as cheap and pathetic as juicing in professional sports in my opinion

10/5/2008 9:06:48 PM

helps me stay attentive and find the lecture entertaining

if i take a full days dose at once my mind goes a mile a minute and i can study like crazy and usually retain a good amount of it

bad side is i usually have trouble falling asleep that night when i actually want to. it also can cause me to stress the fuck out

10/5/2008 9:34:16 PM

Is not worth it. The crash afterward is BAD, NCSU student health will not rx it (or only extremely rarely), and honestly doesn't make much difference. I used it when I was having issues so bad I could read a paragraph and have no clue what was in it by the time I got to the end. I took it because I had to do something to stay in school, but holy crap it's annoying. Only thing worse is Provigil. Holy crap can not take that unless I can be up for 20+ hours, smaller doses than what does that to me have no effect at all.

10/5/2008 11:18:29 PM

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"was having issues"

let's be honest, you didn't have issues

you've got a lifetime subscription.

10/5/2008 11:26:09 PM

Nope, looks like my subscription will be up soon and I am not planning on renewing.

10/5/2008 11:43:31 PM

There have been times in my life when I've had trouble studying.

I didn't get adderall though. I got Fs.

10/6/2008 3:18:38 AM

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" using adderall solely as a finals cram/study aid is just as cheap and pathetic as juicing in professional sports in my opinion"

10/6/2008 8:54:31 AM

i took it the night before i moved and packed just about all my belongings in one night.. what sucked the worse was that i was graduating the day after i stayed up all night so i looked like complete shit in all my graduation pictures... but whatever, it got the job done.

i've also taken it one night before a concert and had the best time of my life.. but it made me sweat a lot.

10/6/2008 9:04:31 AM

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"my husband was prescribed it to keep him awake due to the medicines he was taking that usually made him sleep - he became addicted to it and then when he was taken off of it, he resorted to energy drinks every hr to feel like he was 'normal' again"

he needs to take a week or two and just cut all of that from his system, since he's on sugar and caffeine now it should be quicker

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"taking drugs to make you study = lack of will power"

if you really have add/adhd then no, otherwise, yes.

10/6/2008 9:18:17 AM

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" Patient Monograph - English Show Spanish * Generic Name: amphetamine and dextroamphetamine * Pronounced: am FET a meen and DEX troe am FET a meen * Brand Names: Adderall, Adderall XR What is the most important information I should know about amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Do not take this medication if you have used an MAO inhibitor such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), tranylcypromine (Parnate), phenelzine (Nardil), rasagiline (Azilect), or selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam) within the past 14 days. Serious, life-threatening side effects can occur if you take amphetamine and dextroamphetamine before the MAO inhibitor has cleared from your body. Do not use this medication if you are allergic to amphetamine and dextroamphetamine, or if you have hardened arteries (arteriosclerosis), heart disease, moderate to severe high blood pressure (hypertension), overactive thyroid, glaucoma, severe anxiety or agitation, or a history of drug or alcohol addiction. Some stimulants have caused sudden death in children and adolescents with serious heart problems or congenital heart defects. Before taking amphetamine and dextroamphetamine, tell your doctor if you have any type of heart problems. Long-term use of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine can slow a child's growth. Tell your doctor if the child using this medication is not growing or gaining weight properly. Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine is a drug of abuse and may be habit-forming. Keep track of how many pills have been used from each new bottle of this medicine. You should be aware if any person in the household is using this medicine improperly or without a prescription. Using this medication improperly can cause death or serious side effects on the heart. What is amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine is a central nervous system stimulant. It affects chemicals in the brain and nerves that contribute to hyperactivity and impulse control. Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine is used to treat narcolepsy and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine may also be used for other purposes not listed in this medication guide. What should I discuss with my doctor before taking amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Do not take this medication if you have used an MAO inhibitor such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), tranylcypromine (Parnate), phenelzine (Nardil), rasagiline (Azilect), or selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam) within the past 14 days. Serious, life-threatening side effects can occur if you take amphetamine and dextroamphetamine before the MAO inhibitor has cleared from your body. Do not use this medication if you are allergic to amphetamine and dextroamphetamine or if you have: * heart disease or moderate to severe high blood pressure (hypertension); * arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries); * overactive thyroid; * glaucoma; * severe anxiety, tension, or agitation; or * if you have a history of drug or alcohol addiction. Some stimulants have caused sudden death in children and adolescents with serious heart problems or congenital heart defects. Before using amphetamine and dextroamphetamine, tell your doctor if you are allergic to any drugs, or if you have: * a congenital heart defect; * high blood pressure; * heart failure, heart rhythm disorder, or recent heart attack; * a personal or family history of mental illness, psychotic disorder, bipolar illness, depression, or suicide attempt; * epilepsy or other seizure disorder; or * tics (muscle twitches) or Tourette's syndrome. If you have any of these conditions, you may need a dose adjustment or special tests to safely take this medication. FDA pregnancy category C. This medication may be harmful to an unborn baby. It could also cause premature birth, low birth weight, or withdrawal symptoms in a newborn if the mother takes amphetamine and dextroamphetamine during pregnancy. Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or plan to become pregnant during treatment. Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine can pass into breast milk and may harm a nursing baby. Do not use this medication without telling your doctor if you are breast-feeding a baby. Long-term use of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine can slow a child's growth. Tell your doctor if the child using this medication is not growing or gaining weight properly. How should I take amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Take this medication exactly as it was prescribed for you. Do not take the medication in larger amounts, or take it for longer than recommended by your doctor. Follow the directions on your prescription label. Your doctor may occasionally change your dose to make sure you get the best results from this medication. Take this medication with a full glass of water. Do not crush, chew, break, or open an extended-release capsule. Swallow the pill whole. It is specially made to release medicine slowly in the body. Breaking or opening the pill would cause too much of the drug to be released at one time. To be sure this medication is helping your condition, your doctor will need to see you on a regular basis. Do not miss any scheduled visits to your doctor. This medication can cause you to have unusual results with certain medical tests. Tell any doctor who treats you that you are using amphetamine and dextroamphetamine."

10/6/2008 9:41:30 AM

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"Store amphetamine and dextroamphetamine at room temperature away from moisture, heat, and light. Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine is a drug of abuse and may be habit-forming. Keep track of how many pills have been used from each new bottle of this medicine. You should be aware if any person in the household is using this medicine improperly or without a prescription. Using this medication improperly can cause death or serious side effects on the heart. What happens if I miss a dose? Take the missed dose as soon as you remember. If it is almost time for your next dose, or if it is already evening, skip the missed dose and take the medicine the next morning. Taking this medicine late in the day can cause sleep problems. Do not take extra medicine to make up the missed dose. What happens if I overdose? Seek emergency medical attention if you think you have used too much of this medicine. An overdose of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine can be fatal. Overdose symptoms may include restlessness, tremor, muscle twitches, rapid breathing, confusion, hallucinations, panic, aggressiveness, unexplained muscle pain or tenderness, muscle weakness, fever or flu symptoms, and dark colored urine. These symptoms may be followed by depression and tiredness. Other overdose symptoms include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, uneven heartbeats, feeling light-headed, fainting, seizure (convulsions), or coma. What should I avoid while taking amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine can cause side effects that may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be awake and alert. Do not take amphetamine and dextroamphetamine late in the day. A dose taken too late in the day can cause sleep problems (insomnia). Avoid drinking fruit juices or taking vitamin C at the same time you take amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. These can make your body absorb less of the medicine. What are the possible side effects of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat. Stop using amphetamine and dextroamphetamine and call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects: * fast, pounding, or uneven heartbeats; * feeling light-headed, fainting; * increased blood pressure (severe headache, blurred vision, trouble concentrating, chest pain, numbness, seizure); or * tremor, restlessness, hallucinations, unusual behavior, or motor tics (muscle twitches). Less serious side effects may include: * headache or dizziness; * sleep problems (insomnia); * dry mouth or an unpleasant taste in your mouth; * diarrhea, constipation; * loss of appetite, weight loss; or * loss of interest in sex, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm. This is not s complete list if side effects and others may occur. Tell your doctor about any unusual or bothersome side effect. What other drugs will affect amphetamine and dextroamphetamine? Before taking amphetamine and dextroamphetamine, tell your doctor if you are using any of the following drugs: * blood pressure medications; * a diuretic (water pill); * cold or allergy medicines (antihistamines); * acetazolamide (Diamox); * chlorpromazine (Thorazine); * ethosuximide (Zarontin); * guanethidine (Ismelin); * haloperidol (Haldol); * lithium (Eskalith, Lithobid); * methenamine (Hiprex, Mandelamine, Urex); * phenytoin (Dilantin), phenobarbital (Luminal, Solfoton); * propoxyphene (Darvon, Darvocet); * reserpine; * sodium bicarbonate (Alka-Seltzer); or * antidepressants such as amitriptyline (Elavil), amoxapine (Ascendin), clomipramine (Anafranil), desipramine (Norpramin), imipramine (Tofranil), or nortriptyline (Pamelor). This list is not complete and there may be other drugs that can interact with amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Tell your doctor about all the prescription and over-the-counter medications you use. This includes vitamins, minerals, herbal products, and drugs prescribed by other doctors. Do not start using a new medication without telling your doctor. Where can I get more information? Your pharmacist can provide more information about amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Remember, keep this and all other medicines out of the reach of children, never share your medicines with others, and use this medication only for the indication prescribed Every effort has been made to ensure that the information provided by Cerner Multum, Inc. ('Multum') is accurate, up-to-date, and complete, but no guarantee is made to that effect. Drug information contained herein may be time sensitive. Multum information has been compiled for use by healthcare practitioners and consumers in the United States and therefore Multum does not warrant that uses outside of the United States are appropriate, unless specifically indicated otherwise. Multum's drug information does not endorse drugs, diagnose patients or recommend therapy. Multum's drug information is an informational resource designed to assist licensed healthcare practitioners in caring for their patients and/or to serve consumers viewing this service as a supplement to, and not a substitute for, the expertise, skill, knowledge and judgment of healthcare practitioners. The absence of a warning for a given drug or drug combination in no way should be construed to indicate that the drug or drug combination is safe, effective or appropriate for any given patient. Multum does not assume any responsibility for any aspect of healthcare administered with the aid of information Multum provides. The information contained herein is not intended to cover all possible uses, directions, precautions, warnings, drug interactions, allergic reactions, or adverse effects. If you have questions about the drugs you are taking, check with your doctor, nurse or pharmacist."

10/6/2008 9:41:52 AM

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"Adult Dosing Dosage forms: 5,7.5,10,12.5,15,20,30 ADHD 5-40 mg PO qd-bid Start: 5 mg PO qam or bid, incr. 5 mg/day qwk; Info: give divided doses at 4-6h intervals narcolepsy 10-60 mg PO qd-bid Start: 10 mg PO qam, incr. 10 mg/day qwk; Max: 60 mg/day; Info: give divided doses at 4-6h intervals Peds Dosing Dosage forms: 5,7.5,10,12.5,15,20,30 ADHD 3-5 yo Dose: start 2.5 mg PO qam, incr. 2.5 mg/day qwk; Info: give divided doses at 4-6h intervals >6 yo Dose: start 5 mg PO qam or bid, incr. 5 mg/day qwk; Max: 40 mg/day; Info: give divided doses at 4-6h intervals narcolepsy 6-12 yo Dose: start 5 mg PO qam, incr. 5 mg/day qwk; Max: 60 mg/day; Info: give divided doses at 4-6h intervals >12 yo Dose: start 10 mg PO qam, incr. 10 mg/day qwk; Max: 60 mg/day; Info: give divided doses at 4-6h intervals Contraindications/Cautions * hypersens. to drug/class/compon. * MAO inhibitor use w/in 14 days * arteriosclerosis, advanced * cardiovascular dz, symptomatic * cardiac structural abnormalities * cardiomyopathy * arrhythmias, severe * HTN, mod-severe * agitation * hyperthyroidism * glaucoma * drug abuse hx * breastfeeding * avoid abrupt withdrawal * caution if cardiovascular dz or hx * caution if HTN, mild * caution if psychosis * caution if bipolar disorder * caution if Tourette's syndrome/tics * caution if seizure hx or risk Drug Interactions Contraindicated * anorexiants * MAOIs, all * sibutramine Avoid/Use Alternative * amitriptyline/perphenazine * antacids * carbonic anhydrase inhibitors, systemic * phenothiazines * pimozide * reserpine * urinary alkalinizers * venlafaxine Monitor/Modify Tx * inhaled anesthetics Caution Advised * acetaminophen/caffeine/CNS depressant combos * acetaminophen/tramadol * antihist/decongest/DM combos * antihist/decongestant combos * aspirin/caffeine/CNS depressant combos * aspirin/caffeine/orphenadrine * bupropion * caffeine * cannabinoids * cocaine topical * decongestants * decongestants, intranasal * delavirdine * ergotamine/caffeine * haloperidol * lindane topical * linezolid * lithium * meperidine * meperidine/promethazine * modafinil * sodium phosphate * tiagabine * tramadol * tricyclic antidepressants * urinary acidifiers Adverse Reactions Serious Reactions * dependency, abuse * withdrawal if abrupt D/C (long-term use) * depression * psychosis * mania * aggressive behavior * Tourette's syndrome * HTN, severe * MI * stroke * sudden death * cardiomyopathy (long-term use) * seizures * growth suppression (long-term use) * hypersensitivity rxn * anaphylaxis * angioedema * Stevens-Johnson syndrome * toxic epidermal necrolysis Common Reactions * anorexia * insomnia * abdominal pain * headache * emotional lability * weight loss * nervousness * dry mouth * nausea/vomiting * asthenia * diarrhea * dyspepsia * dizziness * palpitations * elevated BP * tachycardia * tremor * dyskinesia * constipation * libido changes * impotence * visual disturbances * motor/phonic tic exacerbation Safety Monitoring Pregnancy:C Lactation: Possibly Unsafe Monitoring Parameters baseline cardiac eval. in pts w/ risk factors; BP, HR at baseline, after dose incr., then periodically; height, weight in peds at baseline, then periodically Look/Sound-Alike Drug Names Adderall confused with: Adderall XR; Dexedrine; Inderal amphetamine/dextroamphetamine confused with: dextroamphetamine Pharmacology Metabolism: liver; CYP450: 2D6 substrate; Info: active metabolites Excretion: urine; Half-life 9-14h; Info: pH-dependent excretion Class: Anorexiant/Stimulants ADHD Mechanism of Action exact mechanism of action unknown; stimulates CNS activity; blocks reuptake and increases release of norepinephrine and dopamine in extraneuronal space (sympathomimetic) Manufacturer/Pricing Manufacturer: Barr Laboratories, Inc. DEA/FDA: Schedule II Approximate Retail Price tablet: * 5 mg (20 ea): $67.08 * 10 mg (20 ea): $61.99 * 20 mg (20 ea): $65.99 * 30 mg (20 ea): $65.99"

10/6/2008 9:45:38 AM

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"using adderall solely as a finals cram/study aid is just as cheap and pathetic as juicing in professional sports in my opinion""

That's a bit of a stretch. I don't advocate it, but taking some Adderall to keep you on point for an extended study session is hardly much different than drinking a bunch of coffee or red bulls to achieve the same effect.....similar results, just longer lasting and maybe a bit more intense. Lighten up. Juicing will give an athlete strength / abilities beyond what they would normally be capable of, giving them an unfair competitive advantage......Adderall doesn't make anyone smarter.

10/6/2008 9:52:38 AM

^ Taking amphetamines to study is definitely a step up from drinking a fucking red bull. Note that I hate red bull.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:44:01 AM

every time i've taken it i get dehydrated and it makes me chain smoke

10/6/2008 10:48:41 AM

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"^ not in all situations, when you're on the verge of a nervous breakdown because things are just falling apart in your world and you don't want to drop out of school so you try to get a little help in focusing because your mind concentrates on the 9 billion other things that are fucking up your life at that moment, it might just help - in my case, it was the complete opposite and made me feel like shit, but in no way did I not have any will power, I just refused to give up "

some people use marijuana for the same thing

yet they are yielded as being dangerous drains on our society.....go figure

10/6/2008 12:15:35 PM

I've been taking Adderall for the past few months to control ADD. It's worked very well for me. It's also helped control my mild narcolepsy, which i recently was diagnosed with a while back.

Adderall is an amphethamine-based stimulant medication often used for ADD and sleep disorders similar to narcolepsy. It can potentially slow an over-active ADD brain down to normal levels, and it can also reduce habitual sleepiness by speeding your heart-rate and bodily function up.

Use www.webmd.com to learn more about any medication or condition that treats it.

That said, everybody reacts differently to Adderall. The same is true for any other ADD treatment. I had to experiment with several drugs before settling on Adderall. My experiences (and everyone else's) with Adderall will have absolutely no impact on whether you or someone you know will react favorably to it.

Also, do not take this drug without having it prescribed to you by a doctor. This drug acts like speed to someone who does not have a condition treated by it. They can be addictive and they can cause a loss of sleep, muscle spasms, and stomache pains... and that's just the COMMON symptoms.

Feel free to PM me if you have more Q's. I did a lot of research on the subject when I was diagnosed in Jan 07.


And yeah, that means I graduated college with undiagnosed ADD and narcolepsy. I deserve a medal or something

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM. Reason : wd]

10/6/2008 12:41:09 PM

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"Good thing evan posted all the stuff in here because people really wanna read all that."

he said he wanted to find out more about adderall
that's pretty much everything sans clinical data

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"This drug acts like speed to someone who does not have a condition treated by it."

it acts like speed no matter who you are because it IS, essentially, speed. adderall is a mix of the dextro and levo rotations of amphetamine (plus a few others, depending on if it's immediate release or sustained release). when you've got a condition it is indicated to treat, the therapeutic dose (determined experimentally) will, in a perfect world, bring you up to baseline. therefore, it goes to say that people already AT baseline will experience potentiated effects.

of course, the exact mechanism of action isn't very well understood. it's even more confusing how it serves to "calm down" those with ADHD when it is very obviously a stimulant. we DO know that it inhibits the presynaptic reuptake and/or stimulates the synthesis of quite a few catecholamines (dopamine, norepinephrine, serotonin, etc.) along with increasing extracellular concentrations of glutamate (the most abundant NT in your brain).

feel free to ask me questions, neurochemistry and pharmacology/pharmacokinetics are two of my favorite subjects.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 1:07:58 PM

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"Is not worth it. The crash afterward is BAD, NCSU student health will not rx it (or only extremely rarely), and honestly doesn't make much difference."

There is no crash, and it makes a huge difference. You just obviously weren't supposed to be taking it (mis-diagnosis is common).

Evan: It doesn't really "calm" ADD/ADHD people down. It just brings us to normal. ADHD results from low dopamine production in the body, so in order to reach a normal "baseline" people tend to be hyperactive, multitasking, and very prone to not being able to concentrate on single activities (little kids just go apeshit).

By introducing amphetamines, in small doses, it raises the level of dopamine in the brain that allows single activities to be attention consuming, thus "calming" the person down, because there's enough brain interest to stay involved in one task at a time.

I know for me, it makes a world of difference. I've never been able to afford to stay on it, but I've been diagnosed multiple times with ADD and for people who REALLY need it, it is a huge positive effect.

Adderall is often mis-prescribed for several neurological disorders like bipolar, anxiety and depression, which can be disasterous for the patient. If you aren't ADD/ADHD, and seriously so (from what doctors have told me, only the 90th+ percentile should even consider it, most people range from 40-70th, and get put on it just because they want it) don't take it.

10/6/2008 1:29:22 PM

yeah, that's why i put "calm down" in quotes

i'm on it for narcolepsy, 30mg bid

i can't function without it though

10/6/2008 1:37:17 PM

^ I'm right there with you man. I need 20mg every 4 hours, so I take Adderall XR (40 mg) for a 10-12 hour dose and follow-up with another 6-hour generic Adderall (20mg) as needed.

In layman's terms I take enough amphetamines to make a 6-year-old who just downed a 2-Liter of mountain dew in 60 seconds look sedate

10/6/2008 2:22:48 PM

the majority of graduate students everywhere use some form of prescription "study aid".

I have a friend that uses it off label for mild narcolepsy. That person swears by it.

I also read that doctors are starting to prescribe adderall for overweight kids, since a side effect is a small appetite.

10/6/2008 3:07:16 PM

evan, is that from eFacts?

10/6/2008 3:47:31 PM

^

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"Every effort has been made to ensure that the information provided by Cerner Multum, Inc. ('Multum') is accurate, up-to-date, and complete, but no guarantee is made to that effect."

lexicon

10/6/2008 4:26:51 PM

http://www.multum.com/VantageRxDB.htm

10/6/2008 6:50:59 PM

adderall and dexedrine (which i assume is the close to being the same) is the miracle weight loss drug that nobody except users know about. if you're fat and take this drug then don't stop taking it because you'll be really fat without it.

10/6/2008 6:55:43 PM

adderall = mix of the levo/dextro rotations and a couple of other amphetamine salts depending on the version

dexedrine = straight dextroamphetamine

10/6/2008 7:01:22 PM

^Yeah. It has the tendency to do that. I remember taking it once before studying for my European History final. All of a sudden, the industrial revolution of the 1800s became the most important occurrence in the history of the world.

It has a few downsides though. One, it seems to wear you out the following day (assuming you're taking it casually). To me, it's like someone opens my brain and washes it with molasses. That and it dehydrates the hell out of you. Seriously, I'll drink jugs of water and still feel dried out.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 11:39 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 11:23:01 PM

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"It has a few downsides though. One, it seems to wear you out the following day (assuming you're taking it casually). To me, it's like someone opens my brain and washes it with molasses. That and it dehydrates the hell out of you. Seriously, I'll drink jugs of water and still feel dried out."

yeah every time i've taken it i've drank tons of water. i can't imagine being prescribed to it. i've only taken it a handful of times to stay awake when i've been having problems sleeping and i'm still awake at 6am and i have a test to take in 3 hours.

10/7/2008 1:01:13 AM

One of the adverse effects of using it when you don't really need to is that it makes you a sorry sack of shit that can't actually hold his own in school and needs to prop himself up with chemicals in order to function in the same way that many of us manage to do on our own.

10/7/2008 2:48:29 AM

It's like you guys really have no grasp of the fact that you're taking an amphetamine (In fact, adderall is a mixture of amphetamines). That's "SPEED" for those of you who are less knowledgeable.

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"Also, do not take this drug without having it prescribed to you by a doctor. This drug acts like speed to someone who does not have a condition treated by it."

NO, IT ACTS LIKE SPEED FOR EVERYBODY, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS SPEED. AMPHETAMINES = SPEED. THEY DON'T "ACT LIKE SPEED," THEY ARE SPEED. The difference is that when speed is indicated to treat your problems, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Plus, once you use it regularly for a long enough time it stops having so many side effects because you build a tolerance.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 3:28 AM. Reason : ]

10/7/2008 3:18:26 AM

^

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"it acts like speed no matter who you are because it IS, essentially, speed. adderall is a mix of the dextro and levo rotations of amphetamine (plus a few others, depending on if it's immediate release or sustained release). when you've got a condition it is indicated to treat, the therapeutic dose (determined experimentally) will, in a perfect world, bring you up to baseline. therefore, it goes to say that people already AT baseline will experience potentiated effects."

thanks for saying exactly what i said earlier

10/7/2008 11:17:28 AM

[Quote]NO, IT ACTS LIKE SPEED FOR EVERYBODY, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS SPEED. AMPHETAMINES = SPEED. THEY DON'T "ACT LIKE SPEED," THEY ARE SPEED. The difference is that when speed is indicated to treat your problems, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Plus, once you use it regularly for a long enough time it stops having so many side effects because you build a tolerance[quote]

"Acts like" was a poor choice of words. I should have said that the EFFECTS of Adderall are similar to that of speed if you don't have a condition needing treatment.

10/7/2008 3:05:07 PM

I got powder in a pill, I got my prescription filled...

10/7/2008 5:48:24 PM

who doesn't know that adderall is speed? and a better questions is, who cares? say what you will, but I am one productive motherfucker on that shit. Works for me.

10/7/2008 11:45:40 PM

^ Uh, who doesn't know? Quite a few people in this thread, if you actually bothered to read it.

10/8/2008 4:15:49 AM

^ Take it to chit chat dude.

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"who uses it? Can you offer some opinions about it. Has anyone ever had any really bad experiences with it? Is it hard to be prescribed?"

Yes people have had bad experiences with it, expect to have trouble sleeping. This can be especially true if you take the drug later on in the day. It is harder to get prescribed than other drugs and it is scheduled pretty high (It's C3 I believe), but if your problem indicates that you need it then you might be able to get it or something similar.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 10:20 AM. Reason : ]

10/8/2008 10:20:22 AM

^adderall is schedule II

10/8/2008 11:23:31 AM

this is the lounge - not chit chat - post accordingly

10/8/2008 11:27:28 AM

it's not hard to get if the doctor thinks you need it. actually, if they think you need it, its hard to tell them no

i have a legitimate prescription of 90 pills per month @30mg per pill. and im an ex pillhead with 27 months sober under my belt. anyone who knows adderall will tell you that's fucking ridiculous.

i don't take it. i don't even fill it. so don't PM me.

10/8/2008 11:29:27 AM

pm sent

10/8/2008 11:34:16 AM

This just reminded me of something . . . . .

10/11/2008 8:48:49 PM

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"This drug acts like speed to someone who does not have a condition treated by it. "

this drug acts like speed to everyone, regardless of what your doctor told you. That's because it is speed.

with that being said, there is a lot of ignorance being posted in this thread. If you want to learn about amphetamines, then read what evan quoted and then quit reading.

10/11/2008 10:04:18 PM

^apparently no one reads this thread

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"it acts like speed no matter who you are because it IS, essentially, speed. adderall is a mix of the dextro and levo rotations of amphetamine (plus a few others, depending on if it's immediate release or sustained release). when you've got a condition it is indicated to treat, the therapeutic dose (determined experimentally) will, in a perfect world, bring you up to baseline. therefore, it goes to say that people already AT baseline will experience potentiated effects."

10/11/2008 11:05:46 PM

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"Max: 40 mg/day"

oh really? I take 60mg XR an hour before I get up in the morning.

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"That's a bit of a stretch. I don't advocate it, but taking some Adderall to keep you on point for an extended study session is hardly much different than drinking a bunch of coffee or red bulls to achieve the same effect.....similar results, just longer lasting and maybe a bit more intense. Lighten up. Juicing will give an athlete strength / abilities beyond what they would normally be capable of, giving them an unfair competitive advantage......Adderall doesn't make anyone smarter."

If youve just taken it casually, then STFU. If youve been prescribed it, I dont know how you could say that. If youve never taken it, then STFU.

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"That said, everybody reacts differently to Adderall. The same is true for any other ADD treatment. I had to experiment with several drugs before settling on Adderall. My experiences (and everyone else's) with Adderall will have absolutely no impact on whether you or someone you know will react favorably to it."

Agreed. Everything else Ive tried for attention makes me incredibly heat intolerant.

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"There is no crash, and it makes a huge difference."

yes, you can crash as it wears off. learing to cope with "coming down" off it is much easier than trying to get by without it at all.

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"adderall and dexedrine (which i assume is the close to being the same) is the miracle weight loss drug that nobody except users know about. if you're fat and take this drug then don't stop taking it because you'll be really fat without it."

Dexedrine was much much better at the appetite supression for me. I dont eat much on adderall, but my tolerance for the shit isnt making me lose any weight, thats for sure.

10/11/2008 11:51:22 PM