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ncsu_ot_usmc
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" The following is fact and not in dispute. Every word has been taken
from company records, government agency records, court records and
newspaper articles at the time.
Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have
brought down Wall Street.

Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae
when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting
activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, '
Raines, who long defended the companies accounting despite mounting
evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding
that 'mistakes were made' and saying he would assume responsibility as he
had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing
pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings
that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting
principles for four years.' Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9
billion.
Raines left with a 'golden parachute valued at $240 Million in
benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the
accounting scandal became clear.

http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/. The Government noted,
'The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings
to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly negle citing accounting systems
and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and
misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they
submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and
inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an
unsafe and unsound manner.' These charges were made in 2006. The Court
ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based
on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.

Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard
'was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would
ensure a 'stable pattern of earnings' at Fannie. In everyday English - he
was cooking the books . The Government Investigation determined that,
'Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight
to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,'

On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice
Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae
executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating
the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay
bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of
directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to
trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.

Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!

Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was
later forc ed from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office
of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 report on mismanagement
and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things
about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial
amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it
was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.'
Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from
Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

FRANKLIN RAINES - Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief
Economic Advisor
TIM HOWARD - Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
JIM JOHNSON - Johnson is Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street?
"


[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM. Reason : Left part of it out.]

10/6/2008 10:11:12 PM

joe17669
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tl;dr

10/6/2008 10:11:23 PM

ShinAntonio
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words

lots of them

10/6/2008 10:11:25 PM

H8R
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ATTN USERS WITH < 1000 POSTS

10/6/2008 10:12:16 PM

aaronburro
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usmc.

pretty much says it all.

oh, and someone please go to snopes.com. i don't feel like doin it

10/6/2008 10:12:41 PM

FykalJpn
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obama's the new hnic; it's time to come to terms with that

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM. Reason : he'll prolly let you keep your truck]

10/6/2008 10:17:46 PM

ncsuapex
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

10/6/2008 10:22:06 PM

ThePeter
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Summary:

Quote :
"WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

FRANKLIN RAINES - Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief
Economic Advisor
TIM HOWARD - Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
JIM JOHNSON - Johnson is Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street?"

10/6/2008 10:27:32 PM

ALkatraz
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10/6/2008 10:28:04 PM

Walls1441
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jesus christ. get this shit out of chit chat

CHIT CHAT IS NOT SOAP BOX #2

I'm walls1441 and i approved this message.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM. Reason : lol wrong copy paste]

10/6/2008 10:29:16 PM

YOMAMA
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Only a Maverick could have found this stuff out.

10/6/2008 10:29:28 PM

khcadwal
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i also get forwards about dead babies coming to kill me in the night if i don't send money to hibabwae zambo in south africa to buy a llama.

i believe those, too.

10/6/2008 10:34:03 PM

daz84
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^lol

10/6/2008 10:38:20 PM

puppy
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"i also get forwards about dead babies coming to kill me in the night if i don't send money to hibabwae zambo in south africa to buy a llama.

i believe those, too."


ahahahahaha!

oh and [words]

10/6/2008 10:38:27 PM

imphoto
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While we're talking about Obama.... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

10/6/2008 11:09:17 PM

SaabTurbo
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^ NICE TARGET. NOW AN INSURGENT JUST NEEDS A STINGER MISSILE.

10/6/2008 11:10:42 PM

ncsuapex
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Ive fired a real stinger

10/6/2008 11:11:32 PM

Novicane
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This is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fanniemae.asp

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" When one of the hottest issues of a presidential campaign is the meltdown of the mortgage lending industry and the collapse of the economy, a candidate's having economic advisors on his staff who are strongly associated with the system and practices that helped create the current mess likely wouldn't sit well with the public. That's the premise of thie above-quoted e-mail, which claims that three men formerly associated with the Federal National Mortgage Association (commonly known as "Fannie Mae") are now serving as "chief economic advisors" with the presidential campaign of Barack Obama. However, although at least some of these men have had connections to the Obama campaign at one time or another, none of them has ongoing roles with that campaign as chief economic advisors.

Franklin Raines, who formerly headed the budget office for the Clinton administration, became the first black CEO of a Fortune 500 company when he took over at Fannie Mae" in 1999. Raines,
who had earned $20 million in salary and bonuses from Fannie Mae in 2003, resigned from his CEO position in 2004 after regulators determined that the company had violated accounting rules and created an illusory $9 billion in past profit.

Raines has had some dealings with the Obama campaign, but he never held any actual position within the campaign, and his involvement with it was not nearly as substantial as implied here. As the Washington Post reported when a McCain campaign commercial attempted to link Raines with the Democratic candidate, the whole substance of the connection between the two men was that Raines "had gotten a couple of calls from the Obama campaign" in which they talked about "general housing and economy issues."

Franklin Raines' predecessor, James A. Johnson, (former chief of staff to Vice President Walter F. Mondale), was CEO of Fannie Mae from 1991 to 1998. After Johnson left the company, regulators later discovered that Fannie Mae had engaged in fraudulent accounting practices in 1998 which manipulated its earnings so that executives could earn performance bonuses (up to $1.9 million in Johnson's case) they would not otherwise have been entitled to.

In May 2008, Senator Obama tapped James Johnson to be one member of a three-person panel tasked with vetting potential vice-presidential running mates. Johnson (who was not serving as an economic advisor to the Obama campaign) resigned from that position a month later after news accounts surfaced that he had received more than $2 million in home loans at below average market rates from Countrywide Financial (a partner of Fannie Mae).

Tim Howard, the former CFO (chief financial officer) of Fannie Mae, was caught up in the same accounting scandal that undid Franklin Raines, and (like Raines) resigned from the company in 2004. We haven't yet found any substantive connection between Tim Howard and the Obama campaign, however, much less any information supporting the claim that Howard is (or was) a "Chief Economic Advisor to Obama.""

10/6/2008 11:12:46 PM

SaabTurbo
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I FIRED A STINGER RIGHT INTO A GIRL'S FACE SON.

10/6/2008 11:13:03 PM

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