armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
This is an article from WRAL, including an interview with Chuck: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/3712100/
here are some gems from the article:
Quote : | "Amato said he felt like he left the program in strong shape when he was fired after the 2006 season.
“There was more skill on that team last year than there was in Tallahasse,” Amato said.
He said State was deep at running back, tight end and in other spots. He also said he thought the Wolfpack was en route to its best recruiting class his final year and pointed out that State had landed its future quarterback in Russell Wilson of Richmond, Va. " |
and here's the best part
Quote : | "Amato said he went to watch the Miami Dolphins practice in the spring, and Miami’s Bill Parcells talked to him at length about his years at N.C. State.
Amato said Parcells told him, “Chuck, don’t hold judges. People in the football world know what you did at North Carolina State and how far you brought that program. You did things nobody else could get accomplished. You raised about $100 million for facilties, which are second to none in country, and you brought enthusiasm and excitement to that place.”" |
also
Quote : | "“Had we won that one there’s no telling what would have happened the rest of the year. We were so close,” Amato said.
Amato said he “knew what was wrong and it was going to get fixed.”
“Had we won that Wake Forest game, we might have been able to represent the division in the conference championship game,” he said. “You’re talking about a program that hadn’t won an ACC championship since 1979. And I was bringing visions of a national championship.”
But, he said, “It doesn’t happen overnight.”" |
apparently 7 years qualifies as overnight, what a fucking clown10/10/2008 1:22:43 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Chuck, don’t hold judges." |
10/10/2008 1:31:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
i like watching FSU games just to get a glimpse of Chuck on the sidelines so I can laugh 10/10/2008 1:32:25 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
You're a fucking clown.
Amato gave a lot to this school, even if he wasn't the best coach and sometimes looked like an idiot out there. And even though the fans, press and school turned on him after a disasterous final season, he still loves NC State and doesn't hold any grudges.
Next time you walk into Carter Finley and see the world-class facilities and expanded seating, you can thank Amato. Or you can just be a jackass. 10/10/2008 1:32:49 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I blame Herb for Chuck's failures. What big time football recruit would want to come to a school where he had to watch the weave and heave during the offseason? 10/10/2008 1:36:40 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Had we won that one there’s no telling what would have happened the rest of the year. We were so close,” Amato said.
Amato said he “knew what was wrong and it was going to get fixed.” " |
Comments like that one piss me off. Amato's recruiting had gone down hill. He was a fucking joke. His teams played dumb as shit. Sure, he talks a good game, and thats one reason we have the facilities we enjoy today. But to act like if we had won the Wake game we would have gone to the conference championship is a bunch of crazy talk bullshit. We were 2-1 in the conference at that point, and if you're saying one loss sent this team on a fucking 7 game losing streak to end the season, then you're admitting that you cant fucking coach.
What a load of bullshit.10/10/2008 1:38:48 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 10/10/2008 1:40:28 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^dude, shut the fuck up
Quote : | "even if he wasn't the best coach and sometimes looked like an idiot out there" |
understatement of the century right there
Quote : | "he still loves NC State and doesn't hold any grudges." |
who gives a shit if he doesn't hold grudges, I have a grudge against him for the terrible shape he left our program in, it's fucking incredible that this clown still thinks we were in good shape after the 2006 season...he's obviously is living in denial.
Quote : | "Next time you walk into Carter Finley and see the world-class facilities and expanded seating, you can thank Amato. Or you can just be a jackass." |
right, because the football coach's job is to expand and upgrade the facilities and not to win fucking games, good one10/10/2008 1:42:34 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "right, because the football coach's job is to expand and upgrade the facilities and not to win fucking games, good one" |
He won a lot of games while he was coach, you idiot. The facilities upgrade was a direct result of that.10/10/2008 1:47:56 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are some bitter motherfuckers. Damn.
He did some good things here, he did some shitty things here, but he is a still a wolfpacker. Move on and enjoy the direction we are heading now with our football program. 10/10/2008 1:55:51 PM |
cheezitman All American 1245 Posts user info edit post |
i like chuck, just look at this incredible video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtduTHUyEQ 10/10/2008 1:56:30 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "enjoy the direction we are heading now with our football program." |
I remember when people talked like this a year or two after we hired chuck10/10/2008 1:59:57 PM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck did some great things for this school, but I'd rather lose the way we do now (lack of talent) than the way we did back when he was a coach (lack of intelligence). 10/10/2008 1:59:58 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
he won a bunch of games during the Rivers era because an excellent quarterback hid many of his deficiencies as a coach, and as soon as Rivers left the program was obviously in a death spiral. Having one or two bad seasons at the beginning of his tenure might have been acceptable, but when you start to lose 7-9 games in a season 5+ years into his tenure it's obviously a sign of terrible coaching. I appreciate the facilities upgrades and the CF expansion but to act like Chuck was the only coach who could have presided over something like that is retarded (especially with Mr. Facilities himself as AD). Look at this brilliant quote from the man himself:
Quote : | "When you’re building a program, your won-loss record, we won an average of 49 games over seven years" |
I don't think he knows what an average is10/10/2008 2:02:42 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
If you don't think that chuck is responsible for the massive facilities upgrade at carter finley then you are fucking stupid 10/10/2008 2:13:32 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Chuck did a shit ton for the program and the school. I also believe that you can put alot of that on Philip Rivers' shoulders as well, but hey, my opinion. I'll never say anything bad about Chuck as he is a good guy and would have done ANYTHING for this university. It just didn't work out in the end. 10/10/2008 2:17:40 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
^^I didn't say he wasn't responsible, dumbass, I said that acting like he was the ONLY coach who could have gotten it done is retarded, Chuck doesn't have a monopoly on facilities upgrades
[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .] 10/10/2008 2:18:02 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“There was more skill on that team last year than there was in Tallahasse,” Amato said." |
Haha LOL. Was this a cheap shot at TOB?
If that is the case, then how did he go 3-9 the year before with those players?
I'll say it again MOC>Chuck. MOC may not have recruited well or beat UNC, but he was a better in-game coach than Chuck.10/10/2008 2:25:12 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
We had skill, just not at QB. And it's a good thing we had a ton of running backs and a qb-turned-TE. 10/10/2008 2:28:41 PM |
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titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the weave and heave during the offseason? " |
lol.10/10/2008 2:38:11 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
FIRE HERB 10/10/2008 2:45:07 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He won a lot of games while he was coach, you idiot. The facilities upgrade was a direct result of that." |
Um no. A lot of the upgrades were already planned before he came on as coach. He did facilitate the process, but it wasn't a result of him and it was planned before he won a single game.10/10/2008 3:21:21 PM |
spaceurface All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
speaking of heaving during the offseason, he let a couple notable coordinators slip away. Reggie Herring and Norm Chow. 10/10/2008 3:23:34 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Next time you walk into Carter Finley and see the world-class facilities and expanded seating, you can thank Amato Rivers. Or you can just be a jackass." |
Quote : | "pointed out that State had landed its future quarterback in Russell Wilson" |
i admit to not following football recruiting too much anymore, but wasnt wilson more of a baseball recruit??10/10/2008 3:55:34 PM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
I know that Wilson's here on a football scholarship so I assume we got him primarily for football. Not sure though. 10/10/2008 3:57:12 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Actually no Wilson was definitely sold as a football recruit too. There were a lot of rumblings about what a sleeper pick-up Wilson would be. I remember reading things stating if he were a few inches taller (like the 6'3"-6'4") range he'd have been a 4-star, potentially even a 5-star, because he put up INSANE high school numbers just some feared his height. But I think his future will be in baseball because of his size. 10/10/2008 3:59:41 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We had skill, just not at QB" |
This
i dont know what team ya'll were looking at but we still recruited very well after the loss of rivers....
we had huge qb recruits come in they just never panned out. If you blame anything, blame the fact that we recruited highly recruited talent that never panned out not not recruiting. Is it is fault Stone is a moron ?
I think everyone of our fans over estimates the amount of coaching that goes into on the field decision making. No one coached our quarterbacks to make terrible decisions and throw picks constantly, yet that is what they did. Mr. Rivers understood how not to make horrific decisions most of the time. The rest of our recruits just turned out to be Neanderthals.
More evidence being Stone turning out to be a pretty decent tight end. He was a great football player, he was just dumb as a brick
[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]10/10/2008 4:17:40 PM |
spaceurface All American 985 Posts user info edit post |
it's not like they were smart in hs and turned out to be dumb. he recruited a bunch of mongoloids, and that's what we had on the field. dumb penalties, dumb decicisions, etc...
like TOB says, stars are for hotels...you have to recruit players that fit your style, your team, your idea...not just go after every highly rated beast that can demolish fellow high schoolers, but is dumb as a brick.
funny he mentions recruiting RW. Rivers fell into his lap with the job, and that was his only key to success. 10/10/2008 4:28:10 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and ^, They weren't "dumb" people, they were just kids who were recruited and then never coached. Amato couldn't keep a decent coordinator for more than a year. Hell, seems like he couldn't keep a shitty coordinator for more than a year. Anyway, good HS talent that isn't developed and poor decision making/penalties = COACHING. Rivers had an incredible knowledge of the game and an inate ability to make the right decisions (and he had Norm Chow for a year). Now I'm not saying they could've been great DI QB's, but don't blame Stone Jay Davis for everything and certainly don't insult them by calling them stupid; it's lack of consistency and quality at offensive coordinator and QB's coach. 10/10/2008 4:39:37 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Bobby Purcell deserves more credit than anyone for our facilities improvements. That Wall Street Journal article that came out a few weeks ago about him talks about how he basically would just sit and convince donors to fork over the cash.
Chuck definitely left the cupboard bare when he was fired. His last two recruiting classes were terrible. 10/10/2008 5:00:50 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
i think their spelling/grammar check is broken 10/10/2008 5:02:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
http://penalties.ytmnd.com/ 10/10/2008 5:13:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
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Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
poor Chuckles 10/10/2008 5:26:52 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i laughed 10/10/2008 5:37:19 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
It will be a cold day in Ecuador before I let go of 2-4 against John Bunting. I could care less about clown shoes, non qualifiers for akron, riding in on a harley, oakleys, "you people", etc etc etc....I repeat, 2-4 against John Bunting. Read any write up of Bunting's days at Chapel Hill from UNC fans, rival fans, objective journalists living in a hut thousands of miles away......and then realize that he was 2-4 against JOHN BUNTING. Still not informed about John Bunting(?) Ok Duke, the nations worst BCS team, and one of the 3 worst programs in all of DIV I oduring that 6 year span, went 1-5 against Bunting, and some of their losses over that 6 year span include 23-21, 24-21, 45-44, and 20-14 (OT)......
[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM. Reason : .] 10/10/2008 6:14:46 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You're a fucking clown.
Amato gave a lot to this school, even if he wasn't the best coach and sometimes looked like an idiot out there. And even though the fans, press and school turned on him after a disasterous final season, he still loves NC State and doesn't hold any grudges.
Next time you walk into Carter Finley and see the world-class facilities and expanded seating, you can thank Amato. Or you can just be a jackass." |
10/10/2008 6:16:13 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT CRITICS?! 10/10/2008 7:15:54 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“You’re talking about a program that hadn’t won an ACC championship since 1979. And I was bringing visions of a national championship.”" |
did no one else laugh out loud when reading this?10/10/2008 7:24:56 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
We did get tons of money for the program because of Amato, the man can drum up enthuisaism like no one else, course he can't coach an entire team for shit.
Maybe we should fire Fowler and put Amato in as Athletic Director. 10/10/2008 7:26:03 PM |
Lewizzle All American 14393 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That guy's got bosoms." |
10/10/2008 7:34:14 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
They played their fannies off 10/10/2008 7:37:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
when i first came to state i just assumed we were ranked like #9 every year 10/10/2008 7:49:23 PM |
EZ2Score21 All American 1115 Posts user info edit post |
I'm surprised no one said anything about who wrote the blog.
In all seriousness, he really is a very, very good writer.
EDIT: Well nevermind -- the original story I read came from the Orlando Sentinel and Andrew Carter was the author.
[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 8:21 PM. Reason : Wrong story, oooops] 10/10/2008 8:19:29 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Amato sounded in high spirits throughout the interview, with one of the few pauses coming when he was asked to evaluate the job O'Brien is doing at N.C. State.
That’s… that’s… we’re going to play them next Thursday," he said. "I don’t want to put anything on their bulletin board. I, I, I can’t really comment on that. Or I wouldn’t comment on that on any coach I’m going to play" |
Id LOVE to hear what he would say if he really answered that.10/10/2008 8:24:47 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I would be interested in having Amato as athletics director. 10/10/2008 8:53:47 PM |
awwwwkenan All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
^i'd take chuck over fowler any day of the week 10/10/2008 9:09:48 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
chuck for defensive coordinator! 10/10/2008 9:23:02 PM |