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wethebest
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holy 21st century

thats like 2 months

10/10/2008 9:49:39 PM

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all the nutritional value has been roasted right out of there. Go Pasteur!

10/10/2008 9:51:11 PM

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The ones in the cartons last a long ass time compared to the gallon/half gallon jugs for some reason.

10/10/2008 9:51:45 PM

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that's pretty good I must admit. when I used to work in a grocery store, the constant rotation of milk was a bitch

10/10/2008 10:14:18 PM

wethebest
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^^^it actually tastes better than any other milk.

10/11/2008 12:22:05 AM

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FIFO procedure, ftw!

10/11/2008 12:22:55 AM

fleetwud
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is it Chinese? and/or which year is it for?

10/11/2008 2:39:11 AM

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did you get the ultrapasturized kind. horizon??

10/11/2008 2:50:41 AM

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"The ones in the cartons last a long ass time compared to the gallon/half gallon jugs for some reason."


I kind of remember someone telling me it has to do with the fact that the milk in cartons isn't exposed to light.

10/11/2008 3:22:48 AM

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im weary of milk that expires that far in the future.

Milk shouldnt have a long shelf life

bye flavor

10/11/2008 3:42:59 AM

wethebest
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its great now (better than anything else) but I'll have to save some to see how it is in november. I don't believe it will still be good either. we'll see and I'll bttt

10/11/2008 3:50:34 AM

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WetHeBeast, the milk is only good to the expiration date if ou don`t open it. it will be bad in a week or 2 max

10/11/2008 4:47:12 AM

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i dunno about all that. ive always had milk be good for at least a week after the date. im not a pussy tho.

10/11/2008 4:49:21 AM

GREEN JAY
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i bet the OP drank out of the carton already like a gross college kid, so all bets are off

10/11/2008 4:58:11 AM

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is it that bullshit "organic" milk? i remember reading an article about this shit grocery stores sells that's labeled "organic" but most of it is really high in synthetic ingredients causing the expiration date to be a lot longer. the article was comparing this "organic" shit to margarine since margarine is supposedly only one molecule away from being plastic or something and flies won't even land on margarine if it's left out. it also said shit labeled "organic" is nothing but a big scam and people are just wasting their money.

10/11/2008 7:05:56 AM

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"Why does organic milk last so much longer than regular milk?

Craig Baumrucker, professor of animal nutrition and physiology at Pennsylvania State University, pours out an answer:

If you’ve ever shopped for milk, you’ve no doubt noticed what our questioner has: While regular milk expires within about a week or sooner, organic milk lasts much longer—as long as a month.

So what is it about organic milk that makes it stay fresh so long?

Actually, it turns out that it has nothing to do with the milk being organic. All "organic" means is that the farm the milk comes from does not use antibiotics to fight infections in cows or hormones to stimulate more milk production.

Organic milk lasts longer because producers use a different process to preserve it. According to the Northeast Organic Dairy Producers Alliance, the milk needs to stay fresh longer because organic products often have to travel farther to reach store shelves since it is not produced throughout the country.

The process that gives the milk a longer shelf life is called ultrahigh temperature (UHT) processing or treatment, in which milk is heated to 280 degrees Fahrenheit (138 degrees Celsius) for two to four seconds, killing any bacteria in it.

Compare that to pasteurization, the standard preservation process. There are two types of pasteurization: "low temperature, long time," in which milk is heated to 145 degrees F (63 degrees C) for at least 30 minutes, or the more common "high temperature, short time," in which milk is heated to roughly 160 degrees F (71 degrees C) for at least 15 seconds.

The different temperatures hint at why UHT-treated milk lasts longer: Pasteurization doesn’t kill all bacteria in the milk, just enough so that you don't get a disease with your milk mustache. UHT, on the other hand, kills everything.

Retailers typically give pasteurized milk an expiration date of four to six days. Ahead of that, however, was up to six days of processing and shipping, so total shelf life after pasteurization is probably up to two weeks. Milk that undergoes UHT doesn’t need to be refrigerated and can sit on the shelf for up to six months.

Regular milk can undergo UHT, too. The process is used for the room-temperature Parmalat milk found outside the refrigerator case and for most milk sold in Europe.

So why isn’t all milk produced using UHT?

One reason is that UHT-treated milk tastes different. UHT sweetens the flavor of milk by burning some of its sugars (caramelization). A lot of Americans find this offensive—just as they are leery of buying nonrefrigerated milk. Europeans, however, don’t seem to mind.

UHT also destroys some of the milk’s vitamin content—not a significant amount—and affects some proteins, making it unusable for cheese.

There are, of course, lots of reasons people buy organic milk. But if it's the long shelf life you're after, I would recommend you buy nonorganic UHT milk and avoid being charged double."


http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=experts-organic-milk-lasts-longer

10/11/2008 11:15:49 AM

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soy milk ftw

10/11/2008 11:16:50 AM

BigMan157
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there aint no titties on a soy bean

10/11/2008 11:19:43 AM

d7freestyler
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milking a bean without nipples takes talent and effort and therefore yields a higher quality, better tasting milk. fact.

10/11/2008 11:24:01 AM

sumfoo1
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ITS SOY JUICE!

10/11/2008 11:27:39 AM

fleetwud
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because there's no such thing as a soy tit!

10/11/2008 11:28:10 AM

d7freestyler
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and oh so tasty!

10/11/2008 11:28:18 AM

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the more you know

10/11/2008 11:28:44 AM

wethebest
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its the regular milk seen here



grade a vitamin d ultrapasturized

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"In the HTST process, milk is forced between metal plates or through pipes heated on the outside by hot water, and is heated to 71.7 °C (161 °F) for 15-20 seconds. UHT processing holds the milk at a temperature of 138 °C (250 °F) for a fraction of a second."

it lasts longer because its been done at a higher temperature which means more bacteria protazoa mold and yeast is killed out of it and it is also done a million times faster which means less nutrients are burned out which leads to the better taste.

10/11/2008 1:49:32 PM

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"Regular milk can undergo UHT, too. The process is used for the room-temperature Parmalat milk found outside the refrigerator case and for most milk sold in Europe."


I had always been leery of that, wondering what was done to/in it that made it so it didn't have to be refrigerated.

Depending on the price, I'll be buying more parmalat, as we don't go through much milk in my house, but I always like to have some on hand (which is a secondary reason that I have begun to buy the lactose free milk)

10/11/2008 3:14:39 PM

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I think they use that UHT process in Japan too. Milk seems to last a long time and it usually tastes slightly sweet/oniony

10/11/2008 10:51:58 PM

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I can never use up a carton of soy milk before it goes bad. I don't drink it though (and always hated the taste of normal milk) and only use it for cooking.

10/11/2008 11:01:53 PM

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just noticed "no rbgh" isn't on the label
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"Why is American Milk Banned in Europe?

* American dairy milk is genetically-modified unless it’s labeled “NO rBGH”
* Genetically-engineered bovine growth hormone (rBGH) in milk increases cancer risks.

American dairy farmers inject rBGH to dairy cows to increase milk production.

European nations and Canada have banned rBGH to protect citizens from IGF-1 hazards.

Monsanto Co., the manufacturer of rBGH, has influenced U. S. product safety laws permitting the sale of unlabeled rBGH milk. (Monsanto would lose billions of dollars if rBGH were banned in America.)

Q. Is there any milk not contaminated with rBGH and IGF-1?
A. Yes. Milk that is clearly labeled “NO rBGH” is free of rBGH and does not contain excess levels of IGF-1.

Q. What about cheeses?
A. American-made cheeses are contaminated with rBGH and excess levels of IGF-1 unless they’re labeled “NO rBGH”. Imported European cheeses are safe since Europe has banned rBGH.

Follow the links below for details:"

fuckkkkkk

10/13/2008 2:00:51 AM

wawebste
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"Follow the links below for details"


Where would this be exactly?

10/13/2008 2:03:15 AM

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Monsanto is an evil corporation and I would shed no tears if all its manufacturing facilities were bombed to smithereens and their executives crippled and brain-damaged for life. In fact, I would rejoice and celebrate.

10/13/2008 5:25:17 AM

wolfpackgrrr
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^ A bit extreme but I do agree they are a fucked up corporation

10/14/2008 6:45:47 AM

wethebest
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ever since i read something about onions somebody fucked me up in this thread

10/15/2008 1:13:18 AM

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lactose intolerant FTW

I drink like 1/2 gallon per year. It makes an excellent laxative.

And that soy stuff is for the birds. I'll get my calcium from vitamins and my protein from steaks, thanks.

10/15/2008 1:21:26 AM

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most milk in europe is UHT processed - and packaged in tetrapak boxes that can be left unrefrigerated for months until it is opened

10/15/2008 1:37:40 AM

wethebest
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and canada milk comes in bags like rice.

10/15/2008 1:39:28 AM

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"lactose intolerant FTW

I drink like 1/2 gallon per year. It makes an excellent laxative. "


If you like milk, then you can get lactose-free milk. I drink lactose-free milk, and it is very slightly sweet in taste (slight sweet after taste), which is very refreshing. The reason is that it is not lactose-free per se, but lactose-digested. They put the lactase enzyme into the milk, which breaks the non-sweet tasting lactose sugar into sweet-tasting sugars galactose and glucose.

10/15/2008 5:11:01 AM

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LABEL IS WRONG SON.

YOU WILL DRINK SOME NICE CHUNKY MILK ON MY COUSIN'S BIRTHDAY.

10/15/2008 5:14:13 AM

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organic milk is oxymoronic.

is there synthetic milk? fuck

i dont even drink milk

10/15/2008 9:45:11 AM

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"is there synthetic milk? fuck"


Yes, Soy milk

it doesn't come from an animal, so as far as I'm concerned, it's synthetic

10/15/2008 9:54:09 AM

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"organic milk is oxymoronic.

is there synthetic milk? fuck"


The opposite of organic is non-organic, not synthetic. And organic here doesn't mean as in organic chemistry, i.e., relating to carbon containing compounds. Of course any animal or plant product is organic, no matter how the animals/plants were raised/grown. YOU know what organic means when used in the context of food. Don't be stupid on purpose. And I can't believe I typed all this knowing you are being stupid on purpose.

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"Yes, Soy milk

it doesn't come from an animal, so as far as I'm concerned, it's synthetic"


Soy 'milk' is not milk, plain and simple. And it is not synthetic either.

10/15/2008 10:06:23 AM

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for some reason i want to say UHT process was invented at state or something.

probably wrong though

10/15/2008 10:07:08 AM

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"YOU know what organic means when used in the context of food."


GOD DAMMIT PUT THE EMPHASIS ON THE CORRECT WORD SON.


^^ IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET DOWN TO IT, THERE IS NOTHING THAT ISN'T NATURAL.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 10:18 AM. Reason : ]

10/15/2008 10:11:54 AM

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"soy milk ftw"

Agreed. My doctor said my cholesterol is way too high for my age and recommended switching to soy milk. I gave it a shot and actually liked it, despite what everyone said about how awful it apparently tastes. I don't see what is so bad about the taste... they even have vanilla and chocolate flavored soy milk that is just as healthy as regular.

10/15/2008 10:17:34 AM

0EPII1
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"My doctor said my cholesterol is way too high "


Put down the Cornish pasties, son

10/15/2008 10:43:04 AM

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"I can never use up a carton of soy milk before it goes bad"

Maybe you can find smaller packages? I don't drink that stuff, but I know milk can come in tiny cartons.

10/15/2008 11:05:13 AM

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THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY!!!!

10/15/2008 11:46:48 AM

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"all the nutritional value has been roasted right out of there. Go Pasteur!"


my brother once got violently ill from drinking unpasteurized milk. they pasteurize for a reason, you know

10/15/2008 11:48:21 AM

wethebest
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"THERE IS NOTHING THAT ISN'T NATURAL."

holy milk

10/15/2008 6:35:41 PM

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i too am no longer in the 20th century

I'm walls1441 and i approved this message.

10/15/2008 6:37:36 PM

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"
DAT

SUPERNATURAL

MILK"

10/15/2008 8:11:20 PM

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