joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so glad she can't vote
non-americans ftw
i, too, have a girlfriend. 10/15/2008 10:28:22 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89770 Posts user info edit post |
10/15/2008 10:28:41 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
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BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
i too like McCain 10/15/2008 10:28:49 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
that picture is awesome 10/15/2008 10:29:33 PM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
10/15/2008 10:33:24 PM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
she is american, stop trying to hide that you're dating a 16 year old. 10/15/2008 10:34:16 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
you "lose" money if obama is president don't you joe#? 10/15/2008 10:35:09 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
they both claim to like clean coal, so i'm set either way! 10/15/2008 10:36:05 PM |
YogiNCSU All American 1253 Posts user info edit post |
Post pics of your girlfriend! 10/15/2008 10:36:13 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i dont think so, but i am against taxing the wealthy. it should be a flat percentage of income/whatever across the board.] 10/15/2008 10:36:28 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
i thought you made enough as to where you'd be taxed more under obama - not to mention your family
[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 10:37 PM. Reason : or will be within the next 4-8yrs?] 10/15/2008 10:37:27 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
Suprising for a European.
I'm glad she can't vote. 10/15/2008 10:38:09 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm glad she can't vote." |
10/15/2008 10:38:49 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
isn't 250k the cutoff point for obama? im nowhere near that.] 10/15/2008 10:40:08 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
(yet) 10/15/2008 10:41:20 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
asshole. 10/15/2008 10:43:42 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
what? i guess you just believe what you hear on tv? 250k isn't the cutoff - brackets lower than that have cuts for both siddes - some are higher on one side than the other
just one graph - doesn't have the breakdown for single/married joint/married separate but gets to the point
10/15/2008 11:02:22 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
So I strike part of my questions from the record about your girlfriend's opinion on who is right for president of the US. I find it amazing that I did not see this thread before I asked such questions. 10/15/2008 11:04:40 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
Where did this come from? 10/15/2008 11:05:09 PM |
LimpyNuts All American 16859 Posts user info edit post |
based on the above (^^^), Obama is a fuckstick. ] 10/15/2008 11:05:11 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
It's a shame that you can't trust people to be honest about their taxes, otherwise Democratic theory might hold water, but no matter what, taxes will always total 19.5% of GDP. 10/15/2008 11:06:58 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
be glad. Except for the SUPER hippie chicks, liberals are terrible lays 10/15/2008 11:06:59 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
eh, by cutoff i just meant by having an increase in tax. according to that graph im gonna have a decrease regardless of obama or mccain
i dont trust either candidate, really. im against obama's tax plan even if im not affected by it] 10/15/2008 11:09:14 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ what?
[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 11:11 PM. Reason : .] 10/15/2008 11:11:16 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "liberals are terrible lays" |
My last girlfriend was pretty good, except when she was on top, because she was fat.10/15/2008 11:12:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148429 Posts user info edit post |
i've seen some fly shorties pushin jettas, and some fly shorties whippin sport u's 10/15/2008 11:14:20 PM |
LimpyNuts All American 16859 Posts user info edit post |
^^^raising my taxes 8.7% to pay for everyone else's shit = not cool 10/15/2008 11:16:08 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
HOW WILL YOU PAY FOR YOUR JAGUAR 10/15/2008 11:17:50 PM |
zorthage 1+1=5 17148 Posts user info edit post |
YOINK 10/15/2008 11:20:23 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
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Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
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aikimann All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
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Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Better plan ahead for when you're fabulously rich10/16/2008 1:12:18 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
why not? 10/16/2008 1:16:32 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I think the 250k number joe#s mentioned is the turnaround number for small businesses. Small businesses that make under 250k a year will pay less taxes than businesses that make over 250k.
[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 1:17 AM. Reason : In other words, take from the rich, give to the poor. Yay socialism!] 10/16/2008 1:16:46 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
This picture freaks me out
10/16/2008 3:00:39 AM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
haha macfags
and diggfags 10/16/2008 7:50:24 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
but i'm being serious...fuck capitalism and fuck you greedy cockgobblers
socio-capitalism FTW10/16/2008 8:03:40 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^ because when you tax the rich they can still eat... taxing the poor pulls dinner off the table.. 10/16/2008 8:09:52 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i have mixed emotions about it
part of me agrees with that statement, and yet the "fair" part of me says a flat tax rate is the only equitable solution
but i'm for heavier taxes across the board with more socialized institutions, including higher education, healthcare, etc.
oddly enough, i think welfare should be banished...i dare say that the majority of welfare recipients are people who don't deserve it (by having children they can't support or refusing to work to support themselves...and yes, i know that this is a highly biased opinion and i don't have any evidence to back it up...i'm just bitter) 10/16/2008 8:12:47 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
i think i agree with quagmire on this...
the problem with socialized health care is it then becomes difficult to get into a dr and to get surgery done in a timely manner. 10/16/2008 8:15:14 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ true...but the way i've envisioned it is that socialized health care provides basic care for EVERYONE, regardless of how much you make, and then it's up to employers to offer supplemental health care as a benefit
i think most employers would, since it should actually reduce the cost that they're currently paying and most people wouldn't see a reduction in care (while those who don't receive care to begin with would see an increase)
i know that a lot of people talk about the possible difficulties of getting in to see a doctor in a timely manner, but i don't think that would be the case if we model our system after those countries who already do it well (i know for a fact that in sweden, you simply make an appointment like you do here, and you're seen within the same basic timeframe)
government-funded "free" clinics (really, paid for by increased taxes) would take care of those who don't have supplemental care, while those with additional care provided by employers would be free to see whomever they want, just like now...yes, it creates a level of segregation, but the point isn't to make sure everyone gets VIP duke-level care, but to see that their most basic needs are provided for...it would be up to each state (or locality) to dictate numbers within reason (which, really, should work in a lot of cases, since the healthcare infrastructure is already in place, it's just privatized)
[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 8:31 AM. Reason : .] 10/16/2008 8:28:26 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so glad she can't vote me too 10/16/2008 8:53:29 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "part of me agrees with that statement, and yet the "fair" part of me says a flat tax rate is the only equitable solution" |
Why is equal percentage fair?10/16/2008 9:04:26 AM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's cute how people think politicians are going to do what they say they're going to do if elected. 10/16/2008 9:06:55 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
lol
10/16/2008 9:10:26 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why is equal percentage fair?" |
because, in theory, you get paid more for more work or education or specialization, etc...IN THEORY, people who are paid more money do something of a higher monetary value than, say, someone who works at mcdonald's
why should they be penalized for making more money? for being a harder worker or a smarter worker or a more specialized worker? essentially, to say they should be penalized for such, you're discouraging a better work ethic...if you pay an equal percentage across the board, everyone is paying equally to support the government and socialized programs
now, i know that's not entirely valid, which is why i'm conflicted about it...i'm quite sure i could do the job of a number of 5-million-dollar-a-year-salary CEOs, but i wouldn't be a good construction worker...since the CEO doesn't NEED (even remotely) the $5 million a year to live on, but the construction worker might be struggling to feed his family, i would want to see more equality in quality of life...does the construction work less hard than the CEO? not necessarily...they might work in different ways, but not necessarily more or less
if they both were to put in 40 hours a week and worked all of those hours, don't they DESERVE the same compensation? again, part of me says yes and part says no...i'd rather err on the side of generosity by taking more of the CEO's extra income and supplementing the construction worker's (in the form of education, healthcare, etc) because in the long run, a healthier and more educated populace is better for everyone
Quote : | "I think it's cute how people think politicians are going to do what they say they're going to do if elected." |
i don't think most people really believe that the politician is going to do it (at least not in entirety)...but since neither is going to do it, you're still back to square one (it's not like you can safely say one will do it, but the other won't...might as well assume they both will or they both won't, and continue to judge on proposals)
[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 9:14 AM. Reason : .]10/16/2008 9:11:31 AM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
I love you quagmire 10/16/2008 9:14:39 AM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
set em up
( RIP chixnhead) 10/16/2008 9:15:08 AM |