IT SAID THAT HE SUPPORTS OUR RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE AND HE WILL NOT TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY, BUT THEN IT SHOWED A HUNTER.

I STILL SAY HE WILL SUPPORT ANOTHER AWB, BUT HE JUST SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED SUPPORTING THE RIGHT TO USE GUNS FOR SELF DEFENSE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN HIM MENTION THIS IN A COMMERCIAL (OR ANYWHERE FOR THAT MATTER SON). IT IS A GOOD MOVE ON HIS PART IMO.

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM. Reason : SON]

10/23/2008 10:14:17 AM

SO METRO

10/23/2008 10:15:00 AM

You're mom tried to defend herself from me last night and couldn't.

10/23/2008 10:15:09 AM

SECRET METRO

10/23/2008 10:19:30 AM

$100 says he didn't mention the word handgun since he wants to ban them like he did in illinois

10/23/2008 10:20:48 AM

yeah, he'll tell you that you can defend your home with a shotgun, but you're SOL if you wanna conceal a handgun.

but everything will be puppies and sunshine with this motherfucker in office, so you won't need guns for defense anyway

10/23/2008 10:24:17 AM

well shit, how am I supposed to pistol whip someone without a pistol?

10/23/2008 10:24:27 AM

hand guns will never be banned in the US. assault rifles maybe.

10/23/2008 10:24:42 AM

^^^^ That.

And sure, he supports our right to self-defense. He just believes that it makes us criminals for doing so.

http://www.nraila.org/OBAMA/
Just for anyone who doesn't believe that he considered guns in general a social anathema before his presidential bid.

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM. Reason : ^^^]

10/23/2008 10:27:53 AM

Good thing I'm against guns and his stance on this would no way affect my decision to vote for him.

10/23/2008 10:32:51 AM

Quote :

"hand guns will never be banned in the US. assault rifles maybe."

BEFORE YOU USE THE "ASSAULT RIFLE" PHRASE AGAIN, PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO BY A POLICE OFFICER THAT EXPLAINS WHAT AN ASSAULT RIFLE ACTUALLY IS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30


IN ORDER TO OWN A CLASS 3 WEAPON YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LENGTHY PROCESS. THE ONLY ASSAULT RIFLES ARE FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS.

THE MEDIA AND LEFT WING COINED THE PHRASE "ASSAULT WEAPON" TO DESCRIBE ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE AN ASSAULT RIFLE. THEY WANT TO MAKE WEAPONS ILLEGAL BASED ON NOTHING MORE THAN VISUAL APPEARANCE. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT?!

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:52 AM. Reason : ]

10/23/2008 10:32:58 AM

hell, the govt has already tried to fuck with primers so that you can't stockpile ammo and that's with W in office

10/23/2008 10:33:59 AM

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

10/23/2008 10:35:05 AM

^^^^a govt that will take away my right to hunt and defend myself will also infringe on your rights

sometimes you have to stop focusing on individual issues and get the big picture

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:38 AM. Reason : you'd probably be ok with that though]

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:38 AM. Reason : the less rights a law abiding citizen has, the safer you feel.]

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:39 AM. Reason : but, hey, it's democracy. get informed and make your decision. it's a beautiful thing.]

10/23/2008 10:38:05 AM

Don't worry. Folks like him change their tune real damn fast when they get raped, robbed, or shot by some loon.

10/23/2008 10:40:01 AM

even if he did ban them, i'd take the "judged by 12, not carried by 6" approach

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ^the sunshine and puppies will eliminate any need for those actions though!]

10/23/2008 10:41:27 AM

Y'ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT VIDEO NOW, IT'S ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS I'VE EVER FOUND TO SHOW AN ANTI WHAT AN ASSAULT WEAPON REALLY IS.

IT HAS CLIPS FROM HEARINGS IN WHICH THE BATF AND HIGH RANKING POLICE OFFICERS DISCUSS HOW MUCH THE MEDIA HAS SKEWED THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT AN ASSAULT WEAPON IS. THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW, OUT OF 50,000 FIREARMS SEIZED OVER A 12 YEAR PERIOD, NOT ONE SEMI-AUTO "ASSAULT WEAPON" HAD EVER BEEN CONVERTED TO A TRUE FULLY AUTOMATIC ASSAULT RIFLE (THAT INCLUDES THOUSANDS OF GUNS OWNED BY GANG MEMBERS).

BEFORE THOSE CLIPS THEY SHOW THREE AK'S, ONE FULL AUTO ASSAULT RIFLE, ONE SEMI-AUTO "LOOK-ALIKE" AND A SEMI-AUTO HUNTING AK WITH A STANDARD STOCK THAT HAS NO PISTOL GRIP. THEY ALSO SHOW HOW EASY IT IS TO CONVERT A RUGER MINI-14 FROM A RIFLE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MADE FOR HUNTING TO A RIFLE THAT LOOKS LIKE AN "ASSAULT RIFLE." HE IS ABLE TO DO IT IN ABOUT 60 SECONDS. THE POINT IS CLEARLY THAT LOOKS SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT A GUN IS CONSIDERED AN "ASSAULT WEAPON."

THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A RICER. THE SEMI-AUTO AK IS A RICER SON, IT TRIES TO LOOK LIKE THE REAL DEAL BUT IT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PERFORM LIKE IT.

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ]

10/23/2008 10:44:45 AM

i want a minigun or a old Oerlikon 20 mm cannon

10/23/2008 10:45:19 AM

Quote :

"PUPPIES AND SUNSHINE"

10/23/2008 10:46:52 AM

yeah, you can make a 10-22 look like an assault rifle to the common idiot

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM. Reason : ^you better believe it. afterall, it is change you can believe in.]

10/23/2008 10:47:27 AM

Quote :

"hell, the govt has already tried to fuck with primers so that you can't stockpile ammo and that's with W in office"

AND OF COURSE OBAMA DIDN'T MENTION HIS 500% INCREASE IN TAX ON AMMUNITION, WHICH HE WOULD GLADLY DO AGAIN. IT REDUCES THE ABILITY TO STOCKPILE. I GUESS HE FIGURES WE ONLY NEED A FEW ROUNDS EACH.

10/23/2008 10:48:53 AM

don't worry yall, obama will completely wipe out crime so nobody will ever need a gun

10/23/2008 10:51:29 AM

Quote :

"a govt that will take away my right to hunt and defend myself will also infringe on your rights"

Still okay by me. I never have and never will own a gun...so I'm not worried about self-defense. So any gun law would benefit me rather than hurt me.

10/23/2008 11:28:15 AM

Quote :

"So any gun law would benefit me rather than hurt me."

UM, NO IT WOULDN'T YOU METRO.

WHEN THE CRIMINALS KNOW THAT NOBODY IS ARMED THEY JUST BECOME MORE BALLSY.



OH WAIT, ARE YOU SO NAIVE THAT YOU THINK MAKING GUNS ILLEGAL WOULD PREVENT CRIMINALS FROM OWNING THEM?!

EVER HEARD OF THESE THINGS CALLED "DRUGS?"

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM. Reason : ]

10/23/2008 11:30:32 AM

Quote :

"WHEN THE CRIMINALS KNOW THAT NOBODY IS ARMED THEY JUST BECOME MORE BALLSY. "

I would bet that it would make no difference at all...very little difference at the most. I bet one of the last things a criminal thinks when busting into a house in a suburban neighborhood is..."wonder if this guy has a gun...oh, i bet he does...let's do another house."

Its almost like when the crime rate drops when capital punishment is heavily enforced. Oh wait....

10/23/2008 11:39:32 AM

Quote :

"I never have and never will own a gun...so I'm not worried about self-defense"

I'm not religious and don't ever plan on being religious...so I'm not worried if the 1st Amendment gets chopped to shit

10/23/2008 11:43:09 AM

Potential robbers will know that I have a gun when I start blowing the windows out and or their skulls.

10/23/2008 11:48:07 AM

yeah i like that commercial. its almost as good as the 2 old white dudes on the front porch reading the chinese newspaper asking what happened to dole

10/23/2008 11:49:50 AM

^^Since you will more than likely never encounter potential robbers at your residence.

no one locks their doors in canada.

but whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason : gdfgfd]

10/23/2008 11:50:01 AM

Quote :

"no one locks their doors in canada."

wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING?

10/23/2008 11:53:55 AM

IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH EVERYTHING SON

10/23/2008 11:55:01 AM

Quote :

"I'm not religious and don't ever plan on being religious...so I'm not worried if the 1st Amendment gets chopped to shit"

I'm not saying that we should get rid of the right to arm yourself...I'm just not against regulating it.

10/23/2008 11:55:38 AM

Quote :

"I would bet that it would make no difference at all...very little difference at the most. I bet one of the last things a criminal thinks when busting into a house in a suburban neighborhood is..."wonder if this guy has a gun...oh, i bet he does...let's do another house.""

SEE, THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND I.

I'M TELLING YOU THIS BASED ON STATISTICS AND STUDIES THAT INVOLVE INTERVIEWS AND RESEARCH, WHILE YOU'RE DISAGREEING BASED ON NOTHING MORE THAN A "HUNCH."

10/23/2008 11:55:41 AM

^^^well obama isnt running for PM of canada, and i dont live in canada, so i dont really care if they sleep with their doors unlocked

10/23/2008 11:56:30 AM

10/23/2008 11:56:44 AM

the point was they aren't crazy like us, feeling the need to own a fucking arsenal of weaponry inside our houses, much less lock their doors.

10/23/2008 11:57:46 AM

and?

10/23/2008 11:58:38 AM

^^ ACTUALLY LOTS OF CANADIANS ARE ALL FOR SELF DEFENSE AND ARE EXTREMELY ANGRY ABOUT THEIR GOVERNMENT'S DECISIONS.

HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN TO CANADA? I'VE BEEN TO PLENTY OF CANADIAN AREAS WHERE I'D NEVER CONSIDER LEAVING ANYTHING UNLOCKED SON.

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ]

10/23/2008 11:59:06 AM

WHAT DO YOU MEAN AND? AND IT'S CRAZY AND UNNECESSARY TO STOCKPILE WEAPONS IN YOUR HOUSE. INFERENCE MY FRIEND.

10/23/2008 12:00:03 PM

you know what else is crazy? having your girlfriends head blown off by burglars since you're some stupid fuck who thinks you live in canada and your dumb ass left your door unlocked

10/23/2008 12:00:49 PM

^^ LOTS OF CANADIANS STOCKPILE FIREARMS JUST LIKE I DO SON.

^ THAT AND PEOPLE GET THEIR HEADS BLOWN OFF IN CANADA TOO. THERE ARE MAJOR GANG WARS (ESPECIALLY AMONG BIKER GANGS) IN CANADA.

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM. Reason : ]

10/23/2008 12:00:54 PM

^^I like fallacies too! Can we have a fallacy party?

10/23/2008 12:02:29 PM

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU LIKE FALLACIES, YOU'VE BEEN SPOUTING THEM THIS ENTIRE TIME.

10/23/2008 12:03:09 PM

that's what i'm sayin!

10/23/2008 12:03:23 PM

Q: What are the relevant laws regarding Assault Rifles in North Carolina?

A: Assault rifles (the real ones) are select-fire battle rifles available only to military and law enforcement. "Select-fire" means that they can be switched between semi-automatic mode (one shot per trigger pull) and full-automatic (machine gun) or "burst" mode (multiple shots per trigger pull). They are considered to be machine guns by law and are thus illegal for private citizens to own in NC. Is that the type of rifle to which you are referring? Or do you mean the non-select-fire cosmetic look-alikes, the so-called "assault weapons?" If so, we were fortunate enough to be able to make the NC legislature understand that so-called "assault weapons" are no different from any other non-select-fire gun, except in appearance. Because of their understanding, there are no state-specific laws governing "assault weapons." There are Federal laws, of course, and there are some local ordinances in Durham and Chapel Hill. The local ordinances were invalidated by a state-wide preemption law, but Durham and Chapel Hill still keep their ordinances on the books to "make a statement."

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM. Reason : http://www.ncrpa.org/ncgunfaq.htm]

10/23/2008 12:04:40 PM

ARE YOU A MEMBER OF OCDO SON?!

10/23/2008 12:05:40 PM

guns are ~
except for self defense of course!!!



[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason : good]

10/23/2008 12:07:00 PM

dont get caught in jacklegs house

10/23/2008 12:09:00 PM

if you acknowledge that criminals have guns, and therefore have a gun of your own to protect yourself from criminals, you're a pussy

if you don't have a gun and let criminals rob you since the cops will protect you, YOU ARE REAL MAN (who just got his shit took like a little bitch, btw)

10/23/2008 12:10:48 PM

and if you have a ridiculous stockpile of guns for "self defense", you are super smart! No one will fuck with you now! You can probably use all of them at once and shit!

[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM. Reason : fsdf]

10/23/2008 12:12:19 PM