totally knocked on my door. i answer and they do a survey and asked who I'm voting for. I told them "Obama/Biden". their street team is crazy !

10/26/2008 6:38:53 PM

i've had two obama people come by in the past month, though it seems like carrboro/chapel hill should be a lock-up for the democrats.

10/26/2008 7:15:57 PM

they're using you guys as dry runs to build up confidence before heading into the sticks of Orange County.

10/26/2008 7:36:00 PM

came by mine today as well.

she left some stuff and i opened the door as she was walking back.

i handed her back her information.

cause mccain/palin is where its at

10/26/2008 7:40:44 PM

i've had 4 Obama people come by my door this election season (if you count the one who dropped off stuff at the door while I was at The State Fair today)

10/26/2008 7:43:20 PM

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"cause mccain/palin is where its at"

why do you hate america?

10/26/2008 7:49:20 PM

I suppose when you have the warchest he does, you can feed an army of volunteers. I was approached by one at a gas station.

10/26/2008 8:06:39 PM

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" though it seems like carrboro/chapel hill should be a lock-up for the democrats."

really?

no way!

10/26/2008 8:08:00 PM

I thought the Amsterdam718 alias used to claim he was Republican.

Your stories are starting to run together.

10/26/2008 8:09:04 PM

had an obama campaign person call me today...asked me who i was voting for...then asked if i could help out the campaign

10/26/2008 8:39:43 PM

did you tell them your ass was glued to chat boards and you aren't able to leave the house?

10/26/2008 8:42:33 PM

i was on the cat bus when they called you idiot

10/26/2008 8:44:01 PM

I wish they would come to my house, but they probably wouldn't want to hear me explain what a horrible choice their candidate is.

10/26/2008 8:56:04 PM

probably because you cant make a coherent argument.

i mean really.

McRage thinks the economy is fundamentally sound, and Palin cant even explain what the Vice President's role is.

10/26/2008 9:12:23 PM

THE ECONOMY IS FUNDAMENTALLY STRONG.


McCain's a fucking idiot.

10/26/2008 9:31:57 PM

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"really? no way!"

right... that's why i'm wondering why they're here in the first place.

10/26/2008 10:10:01 PM

Same thing happened to me the other day. Well, not really. I was in a bar, not my house, and the guy wasn't so much a "DNC Rep" as he was "a heavily inebriated black man who hugged me and demanded to know who I was voting for."

Normally the Bradley effect does not apply to me, and I will be honest and say, "McCain." Then again, normally the interviewer is sober enough to walk and isn't sexually harrassing me. Also, I really had to go to the bathroom and he was between me and it, so yeah, I lied my ass off.

10/26/2008 10:53:12 PM

aha

sexually harassing, huh?

10/26/2008 11:02:32 PM

when a total stranger embraces me in the line to the bathroom, that's what I call it

stranger-hugs give me the creeps as it is, but the bathroom and line are definitely not man-touching zones

10/26/2008 11:03:28 PM

^i thought homosexual advances was the new GOP thing
funny b/c they are the ones so adamantly against gays, as if mixing religion and politics was acceptable anyways

so i find that statement quite amusing, just admit it, you were embarrassed by palin - i would lie too

10/26/2008 11:05:37 PM

You are the first person to ever notice that a seemingly disproportionate number of anti-homosexual Republicans turn out to be cloest homosexuals. Congratulations on your discovery.

People wanna be gay, that's cool. But I've got personal space, and I take it much more seriously when I'm seconds away from whipping my dick out.

10/26/2008 11:28:17 PM

"You're all gonna die in there... if you don't vote for Obama!"

10/26/2008 11:31:30 PM

^^so i find that statement quite amusing, just admit it, you were embarrassed by palin - i would lie too

10/26/2008 11:44:06 PM

I'm voting for President far more than I am Vice President. It's now clear to me what a terrible choice she was, but when people ask about it I shrug and say what I've just written. She's a moron, but she's not the one I'm electing. Besides, it's less an issue of embarrassment than just, "WTF?"

10/27/2008 1:17:45 AM

I do not answer my door unless I see a UPS truck or a pizza car outside.

10/27/2008 1:37:56 AM

No one comes by my door with political information.

Because I live in a dorm.

10/27/2008 2:39:50 AM

how many cigarettes and dollar bills did they give you?

10/27/2008 4:23:36 AM

Back in 2004 for I worked for one of the Senate campaigns. I was totally cool with people who respectfully said "Thanks but no thanks," and left it at that. It really pissed me off when I had people flip their shit and start trying to have an argument with me. IT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU NEVER UPDATED YOUR REGISTRATION TO REFLECT YOUR CURRENT PARTY AFFILIATION KTHX

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10/27/2008 6:39:27 AM

We don't have to have a party affiliation to not want to be bothered by people of either party.

In fact, that's why I didn't pick either label and just went independent on my registration. I didn't want to get shit in the mail from anybody.

Had two old ladies come up to my door asking prying questions about my political views and I was as polite as possible. Didn't get rude, but I sure as ass-balls wasn't being welcoming either. Whatever, time to go to work!

10/27/2008 7:05:28 AM

What I was involved in was more of the "get out the vote" division of the campaign. So we had a list of all the people in Wake County registered to the party of our candidate, and our job was to go to their residence and just give them a flyer reminding them what day to vote.

People who were respectful about telling me to fuck off I was totally understanding and fine with. The people who were total assholes about it need to just register as independents or to the party they actually straight ticket for

10/27/2008 7:10:51 AM

good lord, grumpy...

palin would be one broken blood vessel away from deciding foriegn policy and nominating supreme court justices.

im so sad. i figured you would be one of the "intellectual conservatives" who flee the McCain/Palin shipwreck.

10/27/2008 8:34:40 AM

^^^you could go unaffiliated

10/27/2008 8:45:33 AM

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"im so sad. i figured you would be one of the "intellectual conservatives" who flee the McCain/Palin shipwreck."

I guess I fall in there, but Im not voting for Obama either. But I guess one less vote for McCain still helps your cause some

10/27/2008 9:12:25 AM

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"No one comes by my door with political information. Because I live in a dorm. "

If you are registered in wake county, haven't voted yet, and haven't filed for an absentee ballot I would expect someone to even make it by your dorm room haha.

The Obama campaign has campus specific staff in all close states

10/27/2008 11:00:13 AM

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"palin would be one broken blood vessel away from deciding foriegn policy and nominating supreme court justices."

1) I'm not going to sit here and bet on my candidate dying. If I'm going to start down that road, I'm going to have to start worrying about the next people in the line of succession -- Nancy Pelosi and Robert "I promise I don't like the KKK anymore" Byrd.

2) Even in the worst case scenario I don't think Palin would be deciding shit. She's even more dependent on her handlers than Bush ever was, and I think she knows it. Fortunately, unlike Bush, she won't be picking her handlers -- John McCain will.

10/27/2008 12:14:22 PM

yeah i hear ya, Grumps, but there are a host of other very compelling reasons not to vote for the Erratic Senator McRage.

and once Palin assumes the presidency upon McRage's next aneurysm or metastasized head-tumor, if you think shes going to be "handled" by anyone, youre seriously mistaken

have you missed the recent news? Bush's "handlers" assigned to Palin say shes gone off the reservation already. she doesnt even listen to them on the campaign trail.

the only one we should worry about "handling" her, is her secessionist husband. Why does no one pay attention to Mr. Palin? the dude is an Alaska-First militia separatist.

whats worse, is that in the Palins' Assembly of God religion (you know the one: writhing on the floor, speaking in tongues) -- the husband is the uncontested head of household. the wife is required by the religion to submit to her husband in all decision-making, spiritual and otherwise

you of all people, Grumps, i would have though you would see through this sham.




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10/27/2008 12:32:52 PM

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""handlers" assigned to Palin say shes gone off the reservation already. she doesnt even listen to them on the campaign trail."

You mean now that it looks like McCain's chances of winning are basically nil? Fuck, she might as well. She probably has enough sense to realize that she's never going to be on a national ticket again, might as well take her moment in the spotlight to do whatever. In her position, I'd be off the reservation as well.

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"the only one we should worry about "handling" her, is her secessionist husband. Why does no one pay attention to Mr. Palin? the dude is an Alaska-First militia separatist. whats worse, is that in the Palins' Assembly of God religion (you know the one: writhing on the floor, speaking in tongues) -- the husband is the uncontested head of household."

The husband as head of the house is a concept common to most sects of the Abrahamic religions. The degree to which people adhere to it varies, of course, and lots of people claim to be much more devout than they actually are. But, in broad terms, this concern of yours would apply to most women who run for office. Nancy Pelosi and her husband are, I believe, Catholic, and that particular church is known for a patriarchal bent.

But, given that Mr. Palin is such a political nutjob with such total control over his wife, why didn't we see more nutjobbery in Alaska? If he is exercising this power over her, he realizes he can't use her to channel his insanity.

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Perhaps that would change if Palin was President, and thus really at the cieling of her career. Then maybe they'd just turn a whole shitstorm of crazy loose on us. But let's consider this:

1) She would be president for certainly less than one term, unless McCain died before being sworn in. John McCain is still below the average life expectancy for a man in this country, and in spite of his health problems already receives excellent medical care which would only improve with the Presidency. In fact, when you take life expectancy for a man his age rather than "at birth," then he can probably expect to go another fifteen years, well past his maximum two terms.

2) She would, at least in a hypothetical first McCain (and later Palin) term, be facing a heavily Democratic congress that could block everything she did for the couple of years it took for her term to end and her to get run out by everybody, including most of her own party.

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So, I'm faced with a question: Am I willing to risk the relatively small possibility of a brief, impotent Palin presidency in order to elect John McCain, a man whose career I have followed and supported since late 1999 and who I think can salvage my party? I can. Sorry if I disappoint.

10/27/2008 1:27:24 PM

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"So, I'm faced with a question: Am I willing to risk the relatively small possibility of a brief, impotent Palin presidency in order to elect John McCain, a man whose career I have followed and supported since late 1999 and who I think can salvage my party? I can. Sorry if I disappoint."

eh, okay. i can understand this sentiment.

i too have followed McCain for a long time. I bought his book "Faith of my Fathers". I would have voted for him in 2000, and was upset by what happened in SC during the '00 primary.

But since then, Ive seen McCain totally suck up and kowtow to the Bush/Cheney/Rove machine, and to bend over for the Religious Right, and it became glaringly apparent he was going to do whatever it took to get on the 08 ballot, including sacrificing the principles which i believed he held all throughout the '90s.

McCain has turned into a nasty hate-baiter, employing Rovian tactics, and has completely bungled this campaign. He can't even properly vet his VP runningmate for chrissakes.

And truly, i think he is deteriorating in a scary way.

But whether or not you want to take his precarious health and advance age into question, there are many examples and evidence as to why this is no longer the John McCain who used to command respect on both sides of the aisles.

I understand why you respected and admired John McCain. I did too. But I don't think that John McCain is around anymore. I dont think he's been around for a long while.

But it's too late now for really ANYONE to change anyone else's mind about these things. so i'll respectfully disagree.




(hey, have you thought about the Bob Barr protest vote?

10/27/2008 2:32:07 PM

McCain has showed extremely poor judgement and no matter what I can't get pass it. "Sarah Palin" . . . are you kidding? even if he had just choose Romney or Guiliani even . . . he wouldn't be in this mess.

10/27/2008 4:52:46 PM

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"have you thought about the Bob Barr protest vote?"

Nice try..but every conservative vote will be needed to shove McCain over the finish line and keep the socialist out of the White House.

Grumps and I have disagreed on McCain in the past. But I must grudgingly join him and vote GOP as the lesser of two evils.

10/27/2008 10:25:02 PM

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"(hey, have you thought about the Bob Barr protest vote? "

I am not now, nor have I ever been, nor do I see any signs that I will ever become, a libertarian of any stripe.

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"But I don't think that John McCain is around anymore. I dont think he's been around for a long while."

I hold out a couple of hopes in this regard:

1) Based on his personality, McCain is one to get bitter and hold grudges. Maybe this is his coup d'grace. Maybe he's been kissing all the right asses for so long so he could get in and give everyone the finger. And that would make me happier than I can say.

2) In the more likely scenario, he has been pretty heavily corrupted but is still better than what we've been dealing with lately, and thus keeps the Republican party viable while moving it in a slightly better direction that a real reformer can use as a launch pad.

10/27/2008 11:29:22 PM

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"I am not now, nor have I ever been, nor do I see any signs that I will ever become, a libertarian of any stripe."

I consider myself a libertarian but as someone who considers themselves a classic republican, I identify more with bob barr than mccain thats for sure.

10/28/2008 12:18:18 AM

^ so you're a libertarian who is cool with some states denying marriage to certain people. that makes sense. all for state's rights as long as it ain't my state that's defining that right.

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10/28/2008 12:37:37 AM

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"I consider myself a libertarian but as someone who considers themselves a classic republican, I identify more with bob barr than mccain thats for sure."

What do you mean by "classic republican?"

Do you mean like Abe Lincoln, who finally took the idiocy of states' rights supremacy out back and shot it like Ole Yeller?

Do you mean like Teddy Roosevelt, who decided to buck what everyone else was saying and push for an extremely aggressive (and at times, expensive) foreign policy?

Do you mean like Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded the power of American intelligence services?

Do you mean like Richard Nixon, who, among other things, was Richard Nixon?

Do you mean like Ronald Reagan, who vastly increased the national deficit/debt and pursued aggressive foreign policy?

I'm just curious as to which of these classic republicans you consider to be classically republican.

10/28/2008 2:39:15 AM

I think hes a classic republican in the mold of Joseph Smith.



(no, but seriously, thats a "code phrase" for dimestore libertarians who think Jefferson is their patron saint)

10/28/2008 2:48:58 AM

Oh, OK, so let me go ahead and include:

Do you mean like Thomas Jefferson, who was all about some literal interpretation of the Constitution right up until the second he became President, and started doing unauthorized shit like buying Louisiana and launching and undeclared war on Muslim pirates halfway around the world?

10/28/2008 3:06:47 AM

yeah, that's the one

10/28/2008 3:13:52 AM

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"^ so you're a libertarian who is cool with some states denying marriage to certain people. that makes sense. all for state's rights as long as it ain't my state that's defining that right."

woah i was way too tired when I wrote that reply apparently. It was supposed to read:

I do NOT consider myself a rue libertarian, but as someone who considers themselves a classic conservative I identify more with bob barr than mccain thats for sure.

Basically Im a fan of smaller government and I can identify with a lot of things the libertarian party has stood for, but not enough in the past to call myself one. I supported Ron Paul through the primaries and last election I voted primarily republican. does that clear anything up for you?

10/28/2008 6:45:34 AM

As much as we want to paint all libertarians as extremists, no two people are the same.

I support personal liberty, individual responsiblity, and smaller government. And I have a feeling that many other people out there also support these principles.

10/28/2008 11:07:20 AM

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"I support personal liberty, individual responsiblity, and smaller government. And I have a feeling that many other people out there also support these principles."

indeed.

10/28/2008 11:09:24 AM