we'll only if its somdbody elses wealth

Quote :

"Barack Obama has lived one version of the American Dream that has taken him to the steps of the White House. But a few miles from where the Democratic presidential candidate studied at Harvard, his Kenyan aunt and uncle, immigrants living in modest circumstances in Boston, have a contrasting American story. Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Mr Obama’s best-selling memoir Dreams from My Father, lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston. A second relative believed to be the long-lost “Uncle Omar” described in the book was beaten by armed robbers with a “sawed-off rifle” while working in a corner shop in the Dorchester area of the city. He was later evicted from his one-bedroom flat for failing to pay $2,324.20 (£1,488) arrears, according to the Boston Housing Court. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5042571.ece

10/29/2008 7:30:55 PM

And the point to this is?

10/29/2008 7:31:31 PM

wrong section.

10/29/2008 7:32:15 PM

the point being that he doesnt spread his wealth around to those in his family that he claims meant the most to him.


"hes a do as i say not as i do kind" of guy


wait, do i really have to explain this shit?

10/29/2008 7:33:12 PM

Commies are so fucking cool!!!!!!!!!

10/29/2008 7:33:40 PM

HOW DO YOUR KNUCKLES FEEL, MR GRACE?


DO YOU NEED SOME BANDAGES?


OINTMENT, PERHAPS?

10/29/2008 7:33:44 PM

The point is. You never hear any dirt on Obama from the media. You have to dig for it but that can still be troublesome.

We know all about Joe the Plumber's life, all about the McCain's, all about the news reporter's husband that interviewed Biden, but we never hear about Obama.

10/29/2008 7:34:41 PM

here comes dumbass with his term of the month "knuckledragger"

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:35 PM. Reason : pos keyboard]

10/29/2008 7:35:01 PM

YES YOU SURE AS FUCK DO HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO PEOPLE THIS MESMORIZED BY THE BANDWAGON METRO (METROS DON'T RIDE BANDWAGONS, THEY RIDE METROS SON) SON.

10/29/2008 7:35:07 PM

the Republicans on this board are getting dumber by the day

10/29/2008 7:35:17 PM

I CANT HELP IT YOU'RE A FUCKING APE

10/29/2008 7:36:05 PM

Quote :

"we'll only if its somdbody elses wealth "

10/29/2008 7:36:07 PM

^^^you mean we use facts, examples, and past behaviors to rationalize our comments?

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:36 PM. Reason : .]

10/29/2008 7:36:15 PM

The left owns the media. Obama could anally rape a 15 year old, and you would not hear boo.

10/29/2008 7:36:16 PM

Quote :

"METROS DON'T RIDE BANDWAGONS, THEY RIDE METROS SON"

10/29/2008 7:36:50 PM

Quote :

"Aunt Zeituni and Uncle Omar are the children of Mr Obama’s grandfather Hussein Onyango Obama, by his third wife – the woman Mr Obama calls “Granny” because she raised his father. Mr Obama’s father, Barack Sr, was Onyango Obama’s son by his second wife, Akumu. That makes Zeituni and Omar a half-sister and half-brother of Mr Obama’s father, or Mr Obama’s half-aunt and half-uncle."

10/29/2008 7:37:45 PM

stop bitching an just go fucking vote. you aren't going to persuade anyone in chit chat with your dumb ass propaganda.


Hey Liberals - Obama's middle name is Hussein, just like the guy from Iraq!
Hey Conservatives - McCain has 13 cars and 8 houses but wants to talk about Joe the plumber!

You think that is going to do anything?

10/29/2008 7:38:05 PM

Quote :

"^^^you mean we use facts, examples, and past behaviors to rationalize our comments?"

so where have you been the past 8 years?

10/29/2008 7:38:23 PM

^^^ei may be half drunk but that shit read like those crappy chapters of the bible that detailed lineages that everyone skips

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:38 PM. Reason : e]

10/29/2008 7:38:34 PM

^^^thank you!

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:38 PM. Reason : ^s]

10/29/2008 7:38:44 PM

No, wait

This changes everything

10/29/2008 7:38:59 PM

lol yeah I was going to come in here and be like "well, you certainly changed MY vote"

10/29/2008 7:39:41 PM

Quote :

"you aren't going to persuade anyone in chit chat with your dumb ass propaganda."

THIS ISN'T GOD DAMNED PROP SON. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL SON.

10/29/2008 7:39:57 PM

how do you know he didn't offer them help? and can you provide proof?

10/29/2008 7:40:15 PM

Quote :

"^^^you mean we use facts, examples, and past behaviors to rationalize our comments? "

well you seem to be missing some of the key "facts" from this article in the op

Quote :

"The Obama campaign was repeatedly approached for comment yesterday but had not responded at the time of going to press. It is not clear whether Mr Obama has been in touch with his African relatives living in the US, or even whether he is aware that they are on US soil. "

and do we even need to bring up john mccain and his first wife? i mean, come on. pick your battles.

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:43 PM. Reason : .]

10/29/2008 7:42:00 PM

the issue is not "spreading the wealth" or decreasing capital gains tax, or increasing the highest tax brackets for individuals making over $250K annual income.

the issues are these:

-- are we a nation of xenophobic ultra-nationalists

-- are we a nation of intolerant bigots and religious extremists

-- are we invaders and occupiers of sovereign nations

-- are we ruled by fear and division

-- are we going to sink further into paranoid us-versus-them tribalistic isolation

-- are we anti-intellectuals who shun scientific discovery

-- are we a nation that spies on our citizens and tortures our enemies



the past 7 years shows thats what we have become .... and this is what the US flag has come to represent.

but that's not the way it's going to be.

my flag is the US Flag, my Constitution is the US Constitution, my Bill of Rights is the first Ten Amendments found therein.

So all you ultra-nationalists, neo-conservatives, and christian theocrats, listen up: some seven years ago, in an environment of fear and uncertainty and doubt, you convinced us to hand the flag and the constitution to you for safekeeping.

what did you do? you fucking shit all over them.

well, look outside. I'm here with about a hundred million motherfuckers and we're here to take them back.

your time is done.

the US Flag will be ours once again












[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : ]

10/29/2008 7:42:03 PM

OBAMA SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THEM A LONG ASS TIME AGO SON.

HE'S A FUCKING SHIT BAG SONS, HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT HIS POLITICAL CAREER YOU GOD DAMNED SONS.

HE REALLY THINKS HE WILL BE ON A GOD DAMNED PIECE OF GOD DAMNED MONEY SON.

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : SONS]

10/29/2008 7:44:00 PM

Quote :

"my Bill of Rights is the first Ten second Eight Amendments found therein. "

fixed it for you.

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM. Reason : .]

10/29/2008 7:44:49 PM

Quote :

"my Bill of Rights is the first Ten [b]second Eight[/s] Amendments found therein."

NOT REALLY SON

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM. Reason : ]

10/29/2008 7:45:29 PM

STOP MAKING POLITICAL THREADS IN CHIT CHAT. NO ONE CARES

10/29/2008 7:46:10 PM

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YA METRO BITCH.

10/29/2008 7:46:49 PM

quit posting if you're so apathetic then.

10/29/2008 7:47:05 PM

oh god chit chat might run out of threads

do not waste them

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 7:52 PM. Reason : s]

10/29/2008 7:52:06 PM

spread the wealth != freebie handouts
i'd be willing to pay increased taxes and not give a direct bailout to my distant relatives too. they could be drug addicts or lazy bums.

get your goddamn head out of your ass and realize that they are both giving tax breaks. it's just who gets them that people are bitching about. for fuck's sake...the man is offering you FREE money....take that shit! or do you make over 250k? if so...your fucked.

yes....your.

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 8:09 PM. Reason : OMG...this "Changes" everything!]

10/29/2008 8:08:34 PM

thats what she said

10/29/2008 8:09:56 PM

Quote :

"METROS DON'T RIDE BANDWAGONS, THEY RIDE METROS SON"

10/29/2008 8:10:42 PM

^^^didnt biden just say two days ago 150k?

why yes he did.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10292008/news/politics/biden_blows_fuzzy_tax_math_135787.htm

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 8:23 PM. Reason : .]

10/29/2008 8:15:02 PM

the freeze on foreclosures is totally needed. even republicans i know can admit that. but they are smart. and don't think obama is muslim or make racist comments.

10/29/2008 8:17:01 PM

Bill Clinton promised tax breaks to the middle class when he ran for president, and then he proceeded to rape them with tax hikes once he took office. Obama will do the same thing.

[Edited on October 30, 2008 at 8:33 AM. Reason : the $250,000 cutoff will quickly turn into a $30,000 cutoff]

10/30/2008 8:32:23 AM

tired of this shit

10/30/2008 8:34:44 AM

Quote :

"Bill Clinton promised tax breaks to the middle class when he ran for president, and then he proceeded to rape them with tax hikes once he took office. Obama will do the same thing."

yeah man the middle class was totally suf--

Quote :

"The Clinton years were unquestionably a time of progress, especially on the economy [...] Clinton's 1992 slogan, 'Putting people first,' and his stress on 'the economy, stupid,' pitched an optimistic if still gritty populism at a middle class that had suffered under Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. [...] By the end of the Clinton presidency, the numbers were uniformly impressive. Besides the record-high surpluses and the record-low poverty rates, the economy could boast the longest economic expansion in history; the lowest unemployment since the early 1970s; and the lowest poverty rates for single mothers, black Americans, and the aged."

http://www.slate.com/id/2183941/pagenum/all/#page_start


And doesn't his plan sound familiar?

Quote :

"In proposing a plan to cut the deficit, Clinton submitted a budget that would cut the deficit by $500 billion over five years by reducing $255 billion of spending and raising taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of Americans."

That fucking Marxist! I hope the Republicans opposed that Soclialist policy!

Quote :

"Republican Congressional leaders launched an aggressive opposition against the bill, claiming that the tax increase would only make matters worse. Republicans were united in this opposition, as it were, and every Republican in both houses of Congress voted against the proposal. In fact, it took Vice President Gore's tie-breaking vote in the Senate to pass the bill."

Damn straight! Because all "spreading the wealth" around like a socialist does is hurt the eco--

Quote :

"Improved economic conditions and policies served to encourage investors in the bond market, leading to a decline in long-term interest rates. The bill contributed to dramatic decline of the budget deficit in the years following its enactment–in 1998, for the first time since 1969, the nation achieved a budget surplus. The surplus money was used to pay down the national debt, which had risen to $5.4 trillion by 1997. The economy continued to grow, and in February 2000 it broke the record for the longest uninterrupted economic expansion in U.S. history—lasting ten years. In the year 2000, the nation was on track to be debt free for the first time since 1835."

Oh

[Edited on October 30, 2008 at 8:58 AM. Reason : ]

[Edited on October 30, 2008 at 8:59 AM. Reason : ]

10/30/2008 8:49:18 AM

with all due respect, Mr Grace, et al, is acting exactly the same way Dems acted when Kerry saw it slipping away in 04.

10/30/2008 8:57:40 AM

Quote :

"the Republicans on this board are getting dumber by the day"

10/30/2008 9:28:04 AM

Because America is the only place in the world where racism, sexism, bigotry, etc exist? Somebody's never been to Europe, where class system is still alive and well.

10/30/2008 9:35:40 AM

http://www.zenmoments.org/the-kindness-of-a-stranger/

The Kindness of a Stranger

“Who is this man?”

Mary Menth Andersen was 31 years old and had just married Norwegian Dag Andersen. She was looking forward to starting a new life in Åsgårdstrand in Vestfold with him. But first she had to get all of her belongings across to Norway. The date was November 2nd, 1988.

At the airport in Miami things were hectic as usual, with long lines at the check-in counters. When it was finally Mary’s turn and she had placed her luggage on the baggage line, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.

“You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway,” the man behind the counter said.

Mary had no money. Her new husband had traveled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.

“I was completely desperate and tried to think which of my things I could manage without. But I had already made such a careful selection of my most prized possessions”, says Mary.

Although she explained the situation to the man behind the counter, he showed no signs of mercy.

“I started to cry, tears were pouring down my face and I had no idea what to do. Then I heard a gentle and friendly voice behind me saying, ‘That’s OK, I’ll pay for her’.”

Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.

“He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?”

Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.

“He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants,” says Mary.

She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.

The piece of paper said ‘Barack Obama’ and his address in Kansas, which is the state where his mother comes from. Mary carried the slip of paper around in her wallet for years, before it was thrown out.

“He was my knight in shining armor!” says Mary, smiling.

She paid the 103 dollars back to Obama the day after she arrived in Norway. At that time he had just finished his job as a poorly paid community worker* in Chicago, and had started his law studies at prestigious Harvard university.

In the spring of 2006 Mary’s parents had heard that Obama was considering a run for president, but that he had still not decided. They chose to write a letter in which they told him that he would receive their votes. At the same time, they thanked Obama for helping their daughter 18 years earlier.

In a letter to Mary’s parents dated May 4th, 2006 and stamped ‘United States Senate, Washington DC’, Barack Obama writes**:

‘I want to thank you for the lovely things you wrote about me and for reminding me of what happened at Miami airport. I’m happy I could help back then, and I’m delighted to hear that your daughter is happy in Norway. Please send her my best wishes. Sincerely, Barack Obama, United States Senator.’
The parents sent the letter on to Mary.

This week VG met her and her husband in the café that she runs with her friend Lisbeth Tollefsrud in Åsgårdstrand.

“It’s amazing to think that the man who helped me 20 years ago may now become the next US president,” says Mary delightedly.

She has already voted for Obama. She recently donated 100 dollars to his campaign.

The Kindness of a StrangerShe often tells the story from Miami airport, both when race issues are raised and when the conversation turns to the presidential elections.

“I sincerely hope the Americans will see reason and understand that Obama means change,” says Mary.

10/30/2008 9:43:02 AM

FUCK YOU OSAMA/BIN LADEN I MEAN OBAMA/BIDEN.

WHAT IN THE FUCK IS UP WITH THEIR NAMES SON?

CAN YOU FUCKS NOT TELL THAT SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS? OBAMA IS ACTUALLY THE ANTICHRIST SON. WINTER SOLSTICE OF 2012 SON. HE WILL BE PRESIDENT DURING THAT TIME IF HE'S ELECTED SON. LOOK AT THE FUCKING SIGNS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

10/30/2008 9:45:11 AM

another great part of this election is that people whom I KNOW aren't remotely religious are pulling that Antichrist shit.

OMG "OBAMA = OSAMA!"

10/30/2008 9:47:00 AM

I'M AN ATHEIST SON.

10/30/2008 9:50:58 AM

Quote :

"FUCK YOU OSAMA/BIN LADEN I MEAN OBAMA/BIDEN. WHAT IN THE FUCK IS UP WITH THEIR NAMES SON? CAN YOU FUCKS NOT TELL THAT SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS? OBAMA IS ACTUALLY THE ANTICHRIST SON. WINTER SOLSTICE OF 2012 SON. HE WILL BE PRESIDENT DURING THAT TIME IF HE'S ELECTED SON. LOOK AT THE FUCKING SIGNS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS! "

that is fuckin' classic...i love it!!

10/30/2008 10:02:43 AM

HUMM ARE THEY BROTHERS?

10/30/2008 10:03:30 AM