FUCK YOU BCBS. IT WAS JUST SOME DAMN ALLERGY TESTING.

11/2/2008 3:02:14 PM

vote for Obama, and you wouldn't have that problem. sucka.

11/2/2008 3:03:51 PM

FUCK YOU BCBS. IT WAS JUST SOME DAMN ALLERGY TESTING.

11/2/2008 3:05:01 PM

I too hate BCBS

11/2/2008 3:05:33 PM

^^^^

you might have to push

I've never really had dealing with the insurance people before, but I've always heard they're very quick with the deny trigger

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:05:41 PM

^^^^and I would have never gotten allergy testing, leaving me worse off, seeing as how universal health care tanks the quality and quantity of the health care system

Name one country with a successful universal health care system with as high quality as ours right now

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:05:44 PM

^england/the NHS?

11/2/2008 3:08:17 PM

^poor health care quality

11/2/2008 3:09:01 PM

^^^

without even KNOWING

I can say Norway

with absolute confidence

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:09:18 PM

Them sons of bitches never want to pay for shit...although a lot of the times its the DR's office that fucks up, they always leave the last digit of my policy number off there records and I constanlly get a bill for tests that were ran cause BCBS claims I do not have an active policy.

11/2/2008 3:09:21 PM

look at this dumb motherfucker wdprice3

dance for our pleasure you hillbilly chucklefuck

11/2/2008 3:09:36 PM

what the tittyfuckshit are you talking about

11/2/2008 3:10:22 PM

orly? i have quite a few friends that live in england and they're always raving about how awesome it is. i also know a person i grew up with who is now a doctor in england and he couldn't be happier, as well as a few paramedics.

in fact, i've never really heard anybody say anything negative about the NHS that uses it.

11/2/2008 3:10:22 PM

health insurance is a scam

11/2/2008 3:10:50 PM

wdprice3 tell us more of your real opinions

you are a living, breathing joke

a self parody

tell us more about what you think

11/2/2008 3:10:58 PM

you must be an idiot, i've never had any problems with them

11/2/2008 3:11:04 PM

well if that's all they know, then it may seem good to them. I've seen stories on how it sucks. Dr's give wrong diagnoses to patients because they can't treat them due to lack of training, equipment, etc.

11/2/2008 3:11:33 PM

where have you seen such stories? i'm guessing they were from the american media.

11/2/2008 3:12:18 PM

ha! pwnt in your own thread. sucka.

11/2/2008 3:12:54 PM

DSC, with BBC input

11/2/2008 3:13:07 PM

CLAM DENIED

11/2/2008 3:13:12 PM

marko wants to suckle some Scaninavian teet

11/2/2008 3:14:05 PM

i don't wanna pay for other's medical care. fuck that

11/2/2008 3:14:38 PM

for Americans... the "other" means something very specific

11/2/2008 3:15:16 PM

^haha

11/2/2008 3:16:06 PM

^please specify for us, professor.

11/2/2008 3:16:17 PM

Find one person in America, who does not currently have health care, and in no way, shape, or form, can receive health care.

11/2/2008 3:16:27 PM

there are millions of people that can't afford proper healthcare. don't be ignorant.

11/2/2008 3:18:23 PM

Quote :

"and in no way, shape, or form, can receive health care."

they still can get health care. don't be ignorant.

11/2/2008 3:18:55 PM

PROPER?

OMG, JUST FUCKING DIE IN THE GUTTER ALREADY POOR PEOPLE, GEEZ

11/2/2008 3:19:08 PM

btw... I'm not convienced which is the correct way to go on this issue

I'm a bit fluid politically

I do believe that large corporations want to fuck us for every dime we have though... that's the nature of the beast

11/2/2008 3:20:18 PM

^and the government doesn't?

11/2/2008 3:20:44 PM

they have access to it...they just can't afford it. healthcare is too expensive. bottom line. have you even looked up how much it costs to get a CAT scan, or an MRI? you really are dense, son.

11/2/2008 3:21:17 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_National_Health_Service

Access controls and waiting lists: classifying patients based on how critically they need service rather than their ability to pay? THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA!!

Superbugs: this is a problem in every hospital in every single country ever.

Coverage: welcome to the realities of running a business. insurance companies do the exact same thing, except you pay out the ass for them to have the ability to do it.

Private Finance Initiative: i agree, this is sort of a problem.

Scandals: welcome to every medical system in every developed country.

Politicisation: this is inevitable in any medical system, regardless of its source.

11/2/2008 3:21:18 PM

Quote :

"and the government doesn't?"

no, not to the same extent

our government is (ideally) a body of the people for the people

Publicly traded corporations are only there to make money for their shareholders... that's it

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:21:58 PM

if you can't receive healthcare, get a better job. you more than likely messed up in your life, and it's more than likely your fault.

11/2/2008 3:22:16 PM

^^^^it's amazing that our government already provides health care plans and the illegal immigrants, with no form of health care still get treated.... and they never pay....

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ,]

11/2/2008 3:22:53 PM

Quote :

"you more than likely messed up in your life, and it's more than likely your fault."

so that means you deserve to die of an illness that could otherwise be treated?

11/2/2008 3:23:12 PM

why should I have to pay for someone else's choices? personal responsibility.

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:23:36 PM

because, ethically, it's the right thing to do?


i really don't feel like arguing the finer points of why our healthcare system sucks balls in america right now.

just know this: i know a hell of a lot more about how it works than you do, as i see its ramifications almost every single day. i also see how much better it could be when i look at systems such as the NHS.

11/2/2008 3:24:16 PM

they should just die in a gutter...

AMIRITE?

11/2/2008 3:24:24 PM

so it's ethically right to steal from one to hand to another?


I should lower my standard of living, my ability to provide for my family, because some crackhead chose to fuck off for years, and now is sick and expects law abiding, better choice making people to pay his way? Where is his incentive to do better in life? Where is the consequence for shitty choices?

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:25:20 PM

Why should I have to pay for someone to get their house fire put out by firemen? I didn't set my house on fire.

Why should I have to pay the detective's salary who is catching murderers? I didn't murder anyone.

Because you want to be safe and have a certain quality of life.

11/2/2008 3:25:43 PM

^^

they do it all the time

it's called taxes

welcome to civilized society

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:25:44 PM

it's not my job to provide for the welfare of others. it's not the government's job to pay for it either.

11/2/2008 3:26:54 PM

Quote :

"Why should I have to pay for someone to get their house fire put out by firemen? I didn't set my house on fire. Why should I have to pay the detective's salary who is catching murderers? I didn't murder anyone. Because you want to be safe and have a certain quality of life."

exactly.

granted, the vast majority of firefighters do it for free...


^then stop paying taxes, see how well that works out for you.

11/2/2008 3:27:02 PM

you know that even in a private insurance pool, you ARE paying for someone else's health care, right?

11/2/2008 3:27:11 PM

police + fire protection != someone's life choices.

^yes, and I trust a private company to do it better than the government.

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:27:23 PM

^^ get out of town with this socialist bull!

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 3:27:51 PM

Set em up

11/2/2008 3:28:00 PM