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punisher
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for us new earners, I just got my first major job and will probably be paying a little more in taxes. Taxpayers already gotta pay for 700 billion or trillion dollar bailout and now if they bail out auto industry we'll be fucked for next 8 or 10 yrs. CEO of the big banks and companies should be paying for these bailouts not the taxpayers. Taxpayers didn't say give a huge loan to some idiot who works at some fast food joint. I guess now we the taxpers a small percentage that is should just bend over and take it from the govt one day at a time.

11/8/2008 7:25:55 AM

Optimum
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aw jeez, not this shit again

11/8/2008 7:29:38 AM

punisher
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Yo it's good to not work and get welfare you know wha am saying

11/8/2008 9:47:30 AM

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"Taxpayers didn't say give a huge loan to some idiot who works at some fast food joint."


They voted for people who think this is okay. Therefore, they're partially responsible.

11/8/2008 9:50:35 AM

Optimum
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It's also good to form a complete sentence. It makes you sound like less of an idiot.

11/8/2008 9:51:07 AM

d7freestyler
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welcome to the real world.

11/8/2008 9:52:04 AM

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"CEO of the big banks and companies should be paying for these bailouts"


ol you're oblivious

11/8/2008 9:53:54 AM

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From what I've read in the news I'm not sure why the auto industry transaction is being called a 'bailout.' The bank system is getting the money free & clear while GM and Ford have specifically asked for subsidized LOANS, not free money. We're guaranteed to get the money back from the auto industry (assuming two of the worlds leading manufacturers don't tank.) The bank industry - that money is as good as gone

11/8/2008 11:16:38 AM

punisher
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Boy we all got to work extra hard for next four year to feed to lazy fucks. Spreading the wealth will prolly start in a month or two who knows. We went to college and got student loans to pay back. Bums stayed home did nothing will get free money, looks like I should have just stayed home and watched Jerry Springer.

11/8/2008 11:20:07 AM

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"assuming two of the worlds leading manufacturers don't tank"

i'm not so sure that's a safe assumption.

11/8/2008 11:20:18 AM

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Congrats on your first job. I wish my first one was paying me over $250,000.

11/8/2008 11:24:12 AM

wwwebsurfer
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^^ still, in principle they're making an effort to repay the money - the banks are just taking the hand outs.

11/8/2008 11:26:09 AM

vinylbandit
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I feel you, brah.

I fucking hate helping people.

11/8/2008 11:28:42 AM

Joie
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^^^first major job.



[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM. Reason : hey its possible]

11/8/2008 11:28:48 AM

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"I wish my first one was paying me over $250,000."


It's down to $150,000 now, according to Biden, but he isn't really calling the shots.

11/8/2008 11:29:51 AM

Joie
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^woah do what???!!

11/8/2008 11:31:12 AM

Biofreak70
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fudgems

11/8/2008 11:32:31 AM

OhBoyeee
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just run this through your google search: biden 150000

it's basically they are going to tax you if they need the money for their expanding government programs

[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:34 AM. Reason : .]

11/8/2008 11:33:32 AM

nicklepickle
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noobs

11/8/2008 11:33:59 AM

Joie
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i just did

probably just a slip. hopefully.

11/8/2008 11:34:07 AM

elkaybie
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he said the number wrong once, and people won't let it go

like bush saying nucular (but not really like the same thing at all... )

[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM. Reason : ]

11/8/2008 11:35:09 AM

mildew
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^^^^^^ do me



[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:37 AM. Reason : up ]

11/8/2008 11:35:38 AM

OhBoyeee
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"he said the number wrong once"


while true, I've heard Obama suggest the new level of income for "rich" to be $200,000 as well.

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"it's basically they are going to tax you if they need the money for their expanding government programs"

11/8/2008 11:36:49 AM

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"I feel you, brah.

I fucking hate helping people."


Playa I don't mind helping deserving people out but people in this country have learned if they cry the govt will take care of them by taking money from working taxpayers. If you look at foreigners, they come here bust their ass 17+ hours if they have to so they can pay that mortgage they don't go running to uncle Sam for financial help.

I bet less foreigners lose their homes to banks compared to people here because they are willing to WORK extra. You guys don't realize how fortunate you people are to be born in the land of opportunity.

11/8/2008 11:37:59 AM

Joie
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iactually agree with you there bud.

most of the people who i know who make over 250K work 60+ hours a week.



[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM. Reason : dvfvdf]

11/8/2008 11:40:37 AM

OhBoyeee
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some of my opportunity has been taken away by the government, ala affirmative action.

11/8/2008 11:40:40 AM

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"Boy we all got to work extra hard for next four year to feed to lazy fucks. Spreading the wealth will prolly start in a month or two who knows. We went to college and got student loans to pay back. Bums stayed home did nothing will get free money, looks like I should have just stayed home and watched Jerry Springer.

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woah what?

1. you realize Bush is still are president and will be will till jan 20th. that's over 2 months away.
2. You've always been taxed, will continue to get taxed and will continue to have to pay loans back.
3. "spreading the wealth" has really been around since the establishment of the US tax base.

4. even if the 250,000 is lowered on here I bet 95% of people on tww will never earn 150,000+ hahaha. Even if I get a Phd this would be extremely difficult. so people saying how horrible it is. I'd like to know exactly how you are going to make that much a year. And even if you are that 5% that makes more of than 150,000, you realize your net gain annually will still be significantly higher than someone making say even 80,000 a year.

11/8/2008 11:42:25 AM

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"even if the 250,000 is lowered on here I bet 95% of people on tww will never earn 150,000+ hahaha"


especially now!

11/8/2008 11:44:21 AM

Joie
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isnt the 150,000 (or 250,000) combined salary as well.

say you and your spouse make that much you fall in the increased tax bracket???

11/8/2008 11:46:02 AM

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all I am saying is that democracy does not equal capitalism and that taxes have been around for a long ass time. don't you think the Bush hand out too gave money to "dead beats" as well this year. I know I got one and I didn't work because of school.

From the Universal Declaration on Democracy by the U.N.

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"3. As an ideal, democracy aims essentially to preserve and promote the dignity and fundamental rights of the individual, to achieve social justice, foster the economic and social development of the community, strengthen the cohesion of society and enhance national tranquillity, as well as to create a climate that is favourable for international peace. As a form of government, democracy is the best way of achieving these objectives; it is also the only political system that has the capacity for self-correction. "


^ ya but thats why i added the second part to that pt.

[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason : ^]

11/8/2008 11:49:28 AM

Fareako
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soap box anyone?

11/8/2008 11:51:28 AM

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Tax is not only getting calculated from your income. There are a lot of other ways they are using to determining how much you gotta shell out when you do your taxes. I don't remember of the top of my head but I m sure someone on here can find a website which explains it all. Economy isn't going to get better by higher taxes, it will only make the middle to upper middle class low income. At the end most of us will be fucked and only the big boys stay rich and small business owners will prolly be looking for jobs at dry cleaners.

11/8/2008 11:52:13 AM

d7freestyler
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^^^it's easier than you obviously think for 2 people to make 150k a year. 250k is pushing it, it's a lot harder for that.

[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM. Reason : ^]

11/8/2008 11:52:23 AM

punisher
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It looks like we got lot of under achievers on this site who just want to take from upper middle class who busted their ass to make the money.

11/8/2008 11:55:22 AM

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Quote :
"even if the 250,000 is lowered on here I bet 95% of people on tww will never earn 150,000+ hahaha. Even if I get a Phd this would be extremely difficult. so people saying how horrible it is. I'd like to know exactly how you are going to make that much a year. And even if you are that 5% that makes more of than 150,000, you realize your net gain annually will still be significantly higher than someone making say even 80,000 a year."


see the problem I have here is that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. And to make up numbers such as "5% vs 95%" and present them as fact is irresponsible.

11/8/2008 11:55:29 AM

d7freestyler
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^^ that's what it looks like.

i used to want to be successful.

11/8/2008 12:01:29 PM

mildew
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Holy fuck chit chat

11/8/2008 12:03:27 PM

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i think this starts to get in to your own definition of success...i feel my fiance and i are definitely "successful" at the current stage of our life (out of college for 3 years, myself out 2 since my certification). we're still striving to achieve more by working hard at the jobs we have. we don't make a combined over 150k. he especially...he could've stayed in the private sector and be earning twice as much, but he chose happiness and a less stress work environment at NCSU. that of course took a "cut." is he an underachiever and not successful, NO.

[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 12:10 PM. Reason : ]

11/8/2008 12:09:27 PM

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some people are of the opinion that money = happiness

those people are silly, imo

but more power to them

11/8/2008 12:10:44 PM

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waaaaaaaah

11/8/2008 12:11:21 PM

OhBoyeee
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and to be naive as to think your taxes won't go up even if you make less than $150k as a household and could potentially see a tax decrease is abominable.

But at least Obama speaks eloquently.

11/8/2008 12:11:45 PM

elkaybie
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no matter who sits in that oval office...i'm paying taxes. other policies is what i base my vote on.

11/8/2008 12:12:48 PM

d7freestyler
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i didn't mean money = success and success = happiness if that's what was taken from my statement, but a lot of times advancement in a company and furthering your career does mean more responsibility and more money.

[Edited on November 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM. Reason : balls]

11/8/2008 12:13:10 PM

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"but he chose happiness and a less stress work environment "
. i would have too.

the fact is some people choose the more stressful option in order to make more cash.

11/8/2008 12:13:30 PM

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and he did that (more responsibility in his career)...he just went to NCSU to do so.

my reply was more based on punisher's comment...not yours d7

11/8/2008 12:15:27 PM

d7freestyler
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i know.
i was more referring to vbandit.

11/8/2008 12:16:02 PM

Joie
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wow. this is pretty civil.

11/8/2008 12:16:38 PM

elkaybie
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OH! haha, it's getting CRAAzzZYY up in this thread

11/8/2008 12:16:40 PM

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SOAP BOX GOD DAMMIT

11/8/2008 12:18:36 PM

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Most under achievers got bunch of excuses. Hell even I m an under achiever currently but I should be in the upper middle class category in a year or two. It's only only your income which going to decide how much you get taxed. A lot of people are just thinking OH I DONT MAKE 150000 so I m good not realizing the other facts. I can't find that website which did a good job pointing out good and bad on both candidates.

11/8/2008 12:48:39 PM

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