ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
They must be Active NFL QBs, Tom Brady is not included because of injury
1) Peyton Manning 2) Drew Brees 3) Tony Romo 4) Brett Favre 5) Phillip Rivers 6) Eli Manning 7) Ben Roethlisberger 8) Kurt Warner 9) Aaron Rodgers 10) Matt Ryan 11/25/2008 9:13:59 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
november 2008 version. 11/25/2008 9:17:44 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
what's the criteria?
Statistically, Warner is at least number 2.
YOUR RANKINGS SUX. 11/25/2008 9:19:23 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
rank them in order as you would if you were picking a QB for your team 11/25/2008 9:21:58 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
I am actually already going to make a change
2) Tony Romo 3) Drew Brees 11/25/2008 9:22:46 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
picking a QB for one game? for 1 season? to start a career? if it was one game or season I'd take Peyton...if it was for the future I wouldnt take Peyton or Warner or anyone too old 11/25/2008 9:30:13 AM |
mrpink Veteran 442 Posts user info edit post |
1. Phillip Rivers 2. Phillip Rivers 3. Phillip Rivers 4. Phillip Rivers 5. Phillip Rivers 6. Phillip Rivers 7. Phillip Rivers 8. Phillip Rivers 9. Phillip Rivers 10. Phillip Rivers 11/25/2008 9:31:26 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Warner should be higher on that list.
Rivers should be lower.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 9:31 AM. Reason : ] 11/25/2008 9:31:35 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
jake delhomme should be hahahhaaahahh on ahhahahhahahaha there hahahahahahaha
sorry i couldn't make it through that w/o laughing 11/25/2008 9:33:43 AM |
DROD900 All American 24655 Posts user info edit post |
Mine:
1) Drew Brees 2) Peyton 3) Warner 4) Romo 5) Favre 6) Eli 7) Rivers 8) Cutler 9) McNabb 10) Rodgers 11/25/2008 9:43:24 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
OP says Rivers is better than Eli?
lol 11/25/2008 9:52:06 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Mcnabb
hahahahahhahhhahahahhahhaahaha 11/25/2008 10:16:01 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
Rodgers and Ryan have never won playoff games since they're rookies (either technically rookies, or first year starters)
whose the only other QB on that list to not win a playoff game? Thats right, its Tony Homo, the January chokester 11/25/2008 10:16:07 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
^only played one playoff game and He lost to eventual Super Bowl Champion NY Giants
so if you look at it that way he did just as good last year as Tom Brady and Brett Favre 11/25/2008 10:21:41 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23252 Posts user info edit post |
I think you all have Romo wayyyy too high 11/25/2008 10:25:51 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "only played one playoff game" |
no, he choked 2 straight years
are you forgetting his botched field goal hold the year before that?
thats part of the reason the Dallas Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in 4,350 days
Quote : | "just as good last year as Tom Brady and Brett Favre" |
Favre won a playoff game last year...Brady won 2 playoff games last year...your facts are messed up...unless you're just saying all of them lost to the Giants]11/25/2008 10:27:59 AM |
jordanfromnj All American 1177 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He also lost to Seattle the year he fumbled the hold on the game winning field goal. 11/25/2008 10:29:05 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
sorry i have tried to forget that seattle game
Romo is a playmaker at the QB position. You have to admit that
and you cant honestly say that Romo would not be in your top 5 11/25/2008 10:31:34 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
You can't put Rivers in front of Eli right now. Based on this year alone?? I got:
1) Brees 2) Warner 3) Peyton 4) Eli 5) Favre 6) Big Ben 7) Rivers 8) Romo 9) Ryan 10) Cassel
*Honorable mention to Pennington...having a solid season.
Based on all-time, but "active" right now:
1) Peyton 2) Favre 3) Warner 4) Brees 5) Big Ben 6) Eli 7) Romo 8) Garcia 9) Rivers 10) Kerry Fucking Collins
*You can't be on any of these lists if you don't know that you can tie in an NFL...and then make the statement "well what if this happened in the playoffs or the Super Bowl??" 11/25/2008 10:32:07 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
^^regular season, yes
playoffs, hell no
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 10:32 AM. Reason : .] 11/25/2008 10:32:25 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^^Manning should not be number 1. He's choked in way to many big games. 11/25/2008 10:34:58 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
He has been clutch in so many big games as well 11/25/2008 10:37:16 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Don't think so. He's choked a couple times...but I think he's come up big in more games. And recently he hasn't choked in shit and has been carrying a hobbling team this year. He's also equal to Favre in NFL championships.
And if you had me choose between one QB to win a big game...I'm going Peyton over Favre...sorry. Both could come up big...but Favre still has the bigger chance to completely fuck you over with mistakes. 11/25/2008 10:37:57 AM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Down by 6, with 1:00 to go in the game, ball at your own 20
who do you want leading that drive??
NO ONE IS EVEN CLOSE TO PEYTON, besides injured Tom Brady 11/25/2008 10:38:37 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
I will agree since his SuperBowl year he has been clutch. But since then, he was a choker.
Also Kerry Collins shouldn't be anywhere near that list.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ] 11/25/2008 10:41:49 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Kerry was almost on there as a joke.
However...overall...he had some very solid seasons with the Panthers, an NFC Championship season with the Giants, and a solid season this year. If you look at the overall body of work, it's not a stretch to put him around that 10 slot when compared to the other QBs in the league right now. 11/25/2008 10:46:51 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Down by 6, with 1:00 to go in the game, ball at your own 20
who do you want leading that drive?? " |
11/25/2008 10:59:55 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^ahahah. I almost posted that.
Quote : | "it's not a stretch to put him around that 10 slot when compared to the other QBs in the league right now." |
It really is.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM. Reason : ]11/25/2008 11:00:16 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Then who would you put there?? 11/25/2008 11:06:45 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Probably Mcnabb.
It's dumb to say he doesn't deserve to be ranked because he did know you could tie in the NFL. The man can still play good football.
The reason I have him at 10 and not higher is cause he gets injured, a lot.
^Also does your list take age in to fact. Is this a qb for a year deal, or to build a team around.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ] 11/25/2008 11:10:33 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
ranking right now, based on this year
1. Warner 2. Brees 3. Rivers 4. Favre 5. P. Manning 6. Romo 7. Garcia 8. E. Manning 9. Ryan 10. Cassel
If it was 3 weeks ago McNabb would have been #5 or so 11/25/2008 11:30:49 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
if it was 3 year ago, McNabb would be top 3 11/25/2008 11:36:49 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I'd probably put McNabb there too...but can't due to my disclaimer. But even if I did put McNabb 10...I might still put Collins right after him. But TT said it...3 years ago McNabb was a top 5 QB...now he might be top 15. He's been too inconsistent and his meltdowns are pretty big.
And I don't know what the qualifications are...one game, one year...I don't know. I just know that when I think of the top 10 QBs in the game...based on their body of work (which is why the younger guys take a drop compared to the first list I posted), those are my top guys.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM. Reason : .] 11/25/2008 11:42:52 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "rank them in order as you would if you were picking a QB for your team
" |
lol simple, and effective
me like this criteria11/25/2008 11:46:13 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Probably Mcnabb." |
lolwut
McNabb is garbage.11/25/2008 11:56:35 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah I know right? Going deep in the playoffs many years is just a horrible thing. 11/25/2008 11:58:06 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
yea i would not want mcnabb on my team
hed forget that we use 2 completions for a first down and would probably hand the ball off 11/25/2008 11:58:35 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^Manning should not be number 1. He's choked in way to many big games." |
11/25/2008 12:01:10 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Might Jason Campbell sneak into your list? 11/25/2008 12:02:13 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I would have put Campbell in my first top 10 list 2 or 3 games ago....but he's now struggling against some good teams. He'd be an honorable mention on my first list. 11/25/2008 12:04:27 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
ranking right NOW, based on this year
1. Warner 2. Brees 3. Romo 4. Peyton 5. Favre 6. Rivers 7. Eli 8. Cassel 9. Thigpen 10. Ryan
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 12:09 PM. Reason : V right NOW......Eli has thrown for 200 yards in exactly 1 game in his last 6] 11/25/2008 12:05:02 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^Man...that list is all kinds of fucked up.
First...Romo ahead of Peyton?? And this is probably the smallest complaint of the list.
Rivers ahead of Eli?? 1 loss versus 7?
And Thigpen?? Seriously?? 11/25/2008 12:08:24 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Tyler Thigpen has been the best QB outside of Brees/Warner the last 5 weeks so I don't see why a CURRENT list could not include him?
Quote : | "Rivers ahead of Eli?? 1 loss versus 7? " |
Well hell if this is the case Kerry Collins should be #1 on everyone's list!
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 12:11 PM. Reason : Wins and losses shouldn't be ALL on the QB]11/25/2008 12:11:08 PM |
titans78 All American 4035 Posts user info edit post |
What?11/25/2008 12:12:30 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
^^^record doesn't mean shit. Phillip has out played Eli this year, and it's not even close.
1) Peyton Manning 2) Drew Brees 3) Phillip Rivers 4) Kurt Warner 5) Tony Romo 6) Brett Favre 7) Eli Manning 8) Aaron Rodgers 9) Matt Ryan 10) Ben Roethlisberger] 11/25/2008 12:13:08 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
If you are doing a list for the whole season it's different........but right now that's my list.
The whole season would have to include Cutler and Rodgers, but right now they both suck ass. 11/25/2008 12:15:14 PM |
dpat812 Starting Lineup 50 Posts user info edit post |
well, as a chargers fan, im just a little (yea right) biased, but I would take Rivers over Eli 10/10 times. Eli has had a dominant defense, dominant RB, and a dominant OL this year whereas Rivers has the worst pass D in the league that has lost 4 games this season in the final 24 seconds, a RB that was hurt for the first half of the season, and an OL that hasn't played up to its potential this season. Yet, the only bright spot for the Chargers is Rivers and the WR core. They have really stepped up their game and are the only reason Chargers have managed to win a few games this year. As for Eli, you can replace him with any other quarterback and the Giants would still be 9-1. Also, Eli is a whiny little BITCH. 11/25/2008 12:16:40 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
It's not like Rivers is manning an 8-3 team or a 7-4 team....the Chargers are fucking 4-7.
He's had an opportunity to win a few of those games in the end and has thrown interceptions or only gotten field goals. Eli has sustained comfortable leads and engineered drives for scores when they were needed (Arizona this past week for example).
And honestly...Eli's stats aren't that much worse than Rivers. He's got less yards and TDs...but he also throws less...which leads to less INTs of course. When there isn't that much of a disparity between stats...you have to look at the HUGE disparity in records. Sorry...but you've got to let-go of the State bias. 11/25/2008 12:18:48 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
if excuses were assholes
fart would be the number 1 element in the earths atmosphere 11/25/2008 12:19:52 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&season=2008&seasonType=REG
Yeah Rivers is just the #1 rated QB in the league. How dare us be biased and not use stats. 11/25/2008 12:21:16 PM |