pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think there is a person in the country who could logically debate Hansbrough's college dominance. As a non UNC fan, it has been almost sickening to watch him, for the most part score at will. The records he will set this season speak for themselves. When all is said and done, "Psycho T" will be considered to be on of the greatest college basketball players of all time. Maybe not as innovative as David Thompson, but he is "country strong". That being said, he does not play beautiful basketball. While watching him play, some analyist will say, at least three times, "he isn't graceful, but he wills in it." His scoring records will stand for a long time, in an era where players are so eager to leave for the NBA. Hansbrough made the right choice to stay, he is getting a quality education at Chapel Hill and has a great chance at being a national champion. But what about next year, when he is undoubtedly drafted in the NBA. As easily as we can all agree on Hansbrough's NCAA dominance, I think we can all equally agree that he will be mediocre at best in the NBA. In the league, work ethic and "will" do not make up for size and athleticism. He doesn't have the size to be a power forward and he doesn't have the speed or shooting to be a small forward. Kevin Love, who was highly touted at UCLA as the "Hansbrough-like" is finding his NBA experiance difficult, and he is an inch taller and about five pounds heavier than Hansbrough. Hansbrough, at 6'9/250 will be relagated to being either a Power Forward or a Small Forward, in the event the reader is unaware of his competition at these positions I will lay it out. I will not give weight and height for everyone.
Small Forwards- Lebron James 6'8/253 (if you think he can defend Lebron you might have a learning disability, and he certainly won't score on him) Paul Pierce, Carmelo Anthony, Luoul Deng, Richard Jefferson, Josh Smith, Andrei Kirilenko, et al
I am aware, that no one is expecting Hansbrough to be a small forward, but that is where his size would best fit. He does, as they say, play bigger than his size, so he must be a power forward, but I think he will run into just as much trouble there.
Power Fowards- Kevin Garnett 6'11/255 (have fun scoring or defending this guy) Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki,Chris Bosh,Carlos Boozer, Pau Gasol, Shawn Marion, Al Jefferson, Kenyon Martin et al
And just for fun, lets imagine Tyler as a Center. Centers- Amare Stoudemire, Yao Ming, Dwight Howard, Greg Oden, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Shaq, Andrew Bynum et al.
I know that this list does not include all players at the postion, but it shows the type of player Hansbrough will have to defend and score on.
With all this factual evidence, I don't see how anyone can logically debate he will be amazing in the NBA. In no way will his flop of an NBA career reflect on the greatness of his NCAA legacy. Just ask any Wolfpack fan about David Thomspon. 12/18/2008 2:34:16 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
you're about as bad as gunz 12/18/2008 2:34:47 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
lol 12/18/2008 2:37:07 PM |
dgspencer All American 4474 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think he'll ever be a starter, I could see him being a 6th or 7th man though. 12/18/2008 2:37:33 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
MORE LIKE PEE DRANKIN 12/18/2008 2:39:02 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha 12/18/2008 2:40:48 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
I for the most part believe Hansbrough will make it in the NBA.
- I dont believe by any sort of the imagination he will ever be an all star.
- I dont think you will ever be able to compare him to any of the superstars
- I think you will be able to classify him as "a good NBA player"
My comparison for him is: DAVID LEE
I can see Hansbrough NBA career average being right at LEE's 9.5 ppg, 8.2 rpg 12/18/2008 2:41:25 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just ask any Wolfpack fan about David Thomspon." |
he didn't fail in the nba because of lack of talent. afaik it was a drug/injury problem12/18/2008 2:42:03 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
btw
David Lee 6-9/240
Hansbrough 6-9/250 12/18/2008 2:42:58 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
is he allowed to wear contacts in the NBA? 12/18/2008 2:45:31 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
Time will only tell. We could all be wrong, he could possibly end up the greatest player the NBA has ever known, but i just don't see him being that big an influence.
Also, i'm glad the pack actually managed to beat ECU this year. also, who's ready for birmingham? And as far as Pee drankin, i do it because it's sterile and i like the way it tastes 12/18/2008 2:50:44 PM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
Hansborough will probably be a decent play but his will is going to be an All-Star. 12/18/2008 2:51:31 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
what else do you drink that was produced by a penis?
[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 2:51 PM. Reason : c] 12/18/2008 2:51:32 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
i and know thompson didn't fail because of talent, i am well aware of his love of cocaine and injuries, but failure is failure. 12/18/2008 2:51:48 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
your shit is getting out of hand pee drinker 12/18/2008 2:52:17 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
such hostility on this board 12/18/2008 2:54:42 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
A T T N 12/18/2008 2:55:12 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
i'll smack your kids, pee drinker 12/18/2008 2:59:10 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
haha 12/18/2008 2:59:53 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
aaaahahahahaha @ PEE DRANKIN
classic
that's some creative writing, there. 12/18/2008 3:00:50 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
i just figured we could all enjoy some UNC/Hansbrough hating. i was mistaken 12/18/2008 3:02:40 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kevin Love, who was highly touted at UCLA as the "Hansbrough-like" is finding his NBA experiance difficult, and he is an inch taller and about five pounds heavier than Hansbrough." |
Check how many double-doubles he has this year, and he's like 19. Have you ever seen Love run? I have never seen a slower big man.
haha, btw Love is 6'8" Mr. Pee Drankin
[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : s]12/18/2008 3:04:02 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
I, too, hope Hansbrough sucks in the NBA.
I don't hold out much hope though. Have you ever seen him listen? IT'S INCREDIBLE.
[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .] 12/18/2008 3:07:37 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
I heard Hansborough loses his contacts when Roy pumps him hard up the pooper 12/18/2008 3:13:14 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
^^ohboyee ftw 12/18/2008 3:14:42 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My comparison for him is: DAVID LEE" |
Lee is a ton more athletic than Hansbrough. I think he ends up being somewhere between Mark Madsen and Anderson Varejao.12/18/2008 3:17:07 PM |
JohnQPublic Veteran 110 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In no way will his flop of an NBA career reflect on the greatness of his NCAA legacy. Just ask any Wolfpack fan about David Thomspon." |
ABA/NBA highlights
* The Sporting News ABA Rookie of the Year (1976) * ABA Rookie of the Year (1976) * All-ABA (1976) * MVP, 1976 ABA All-Star Game * Competed in first ever slam dunk contest during half time of the 1976 ABA All-Star Game, eventually taking second to Julius Erving * All-NBA First Team (1977, 1978) * Four-time NBA All-Star * MVP, 1979 NBA All-Star Game * Only player in history named MVP of both the ABA and NBA All-Star Games * Scored a career-high 73 points against Detroit (April 9, 1978) * Scored a then-NBA record 32 points in the second quarter against Detroit Pistons, a record that was broken by George Gervin (33 against New Orleans Jazz on the same day ) when Gervin won the 1978 scoring title with a 63-point output * The Nuggets retired his jersey number 33 (Nov. 2, 1992) * Colorado Professional Athlete of the Year (1977) * Scored 2,158 points (26.0 ppg) in the ABA * Scored 11,264 points (22.1 ppg) in the NBA * Atlanta's first pick in the 1975 NBA draft * Virginia's first pick in the 1975 ABA draft
[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ...]12/18/2008 3:23:30 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
aha
Yeah, Thompson was not a flop 12/18/2008 3:28:53 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
unless by flop you mean god 12/18/2008 3:30:03 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if you think he can defend Lebron you might have a learning disability" |
Obviously Hansdouche cannot guard anyone in the NBA, but who can really guard LeBron period. One on one he is unstoppable. Don't give me T. Prince shit either.
[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 4:02 PM. Reason : me]12/18/2008 4:02:15 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Better big man:
Hansbrough or Ditka? 12/18/2008 4:02:47 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
PTI supposed to do a piece on who will be better pro: Hansbrough vs Tebow 12/18/2008 4:20:09 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Tebow 12/18/2008 4:49:46 PM |
StateCole All American 3597 Posts user info edit post |
Will of Psycho T > Tebow 12/18/2008 4:59:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
he will be a career reserve...probably play 10-12 years and average 8 and 5...might peak a couple seasons and average 14 and 9...course it depends where he gets drafted...does a young team with little depth draft him, forcing him to play more minutes, and have better cumulative numbers...or does he go to a good team and get 8-10 minutes per game 12/18/2008 5:10:01 PM |
ncsuREMY9 All American 1805 Posts user info edit post |
Was anyone watching the Pitt/Siena game last night? They must've spent ten minutes during the game pounding on Hansbrough, how he was NOT going to be much of an NBA player. We talk about it on here a lot but it was interesting seeing the talking heads actually do it...i've never heard it out of the mass media before 12/18/2008 5:16:51 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
He will have at least three incidents where he almost comes to blows with another player for going 110 percent in garbage time of a 30 point blowout 12/18/2008 5:17:33 PM |
Erios All American 2509 Posts user info edit post |
worst thread title ever (that wasn't locked inside of 30 seconds...) 12/18/2008 5:24:50 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obviously Hansdouche cannot guard anyone in the NBA, but who can really guard LeBron period. One on one he is unstoppable. Don't give me T. Prince shit either." |
I know some one
hahahahah
JK12/18/2008 5:35:07 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan would get schooled
He's what, 45? 12/18/2008 5:43:29 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
look son, he weighs more now, he could do it 12/18/2008 5:44:32 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ. seriously, i fucking ABHOR tyler hansbrough, and hate to even look at the fucker. but unless you are all fucking liars, you'll admit that if he played for State, you guys would be predicting how many Finals MVP trophies he would take home in the next 15 years.
srsly. for srs.
he's a great player, and in the NBA, he'll only get stronger, and like many guys who play as hard as him, he'll make himself up to par w/ the rest of the league. by no means do I think he'll be a star, but i can see him being a vital inside presence for a mid-level team. possibly starting by year 3. 12/18/2008 9:41:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Really?
Are we predicting how many superbowl MVP's Russel Wilson will get?
Some people just don't translate their skills into the pros, Hansbro is a perfect example. 12/18/2008 9:49:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Jason White won a Heisman and didn't do shit in the NFL
Hansbrough will do something in the NBA, but nothing like his collegiate accolades 12/18/2008 10:02:34 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3770906
holy shit,,, i mean the author of the article knows exactly WHY to hate hansborough, but then defends him to the fullest, suck suck suck, i cant take it... i cannot wait til this season is over and he leaves college basketball 12/18/2008 10:12:33 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
slave famous wins this thread.
I for one have been waiting for 3+ years to see someone cold cock him in the NBA when he shows his "will" during garbage time.
It is a moment that I will savor when it happens 12/18/2008 10:17:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He keeps swinging his nose into people's elbows. Of all the nerve! "I think he should shoot more," says his coach, Roy Williams. "People foul Tyler in ways that other coaches would want intentional fouls called. And he just keeps playing. Doesn't say boo to the refs."" |
The idea that he gets fouled (real fouls, not called fouls) more often than other good big men is laughable.
Quote : | ""They boo him," says his dad, Gene, an orthopedic surgeon. "They say he flops, they call him overrated, but if someone suddenly told these people, 'Hey, Tyler is going to play for you guys,' would they still hate him? I don't think so."" |
Hey, thanks tyler's dad, for explaining competitive team sports for us.12/18/2008 10:22:03 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Are we predicting how many superbowl MVP's Russel Wilson will get?" |
of course, the first response is someone staying blatantly away from context.
Russell Wilson isn't the star of the lately perennial best college basketball team in the country (or football, respectively). His accolade is that he is a great young quarterback who played counter to a lot of completely awful ACC quarterbacks this year. not to devalue him, because i fucking love him, but I'm just saying. You can't really compare talk between him and a new UNC cover boy garnering National POY honors and such.
also, Russell Wilson is another mobile, smart QB with an average arm. if he wants to do ANYTHING in the nfl besides return kicks, he'll need to become a great passer.
(college football is less an indicator of professional success than is college basketball)
[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM. Reason : dsfasfsdfadf]12/18/2008 11:02:38 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Can't stand the douche, and I think there is no way he is any sort of star or even top tier players.
However, he is going to be a guy willing to do what a lot of players in the NBA don't want to do, and teams need. He'll play big, rebound, push guys around, and be just a strong annoying body who can go in and bang around and give solid minutes. If he stays healthy he'll have a long NBA career even though he is undersized because the only way he will make it in the league is if he does those little things well.
I can already see the scenario now, where he goes to some team that lost in the conference finals, and gives them 18 minutes a game, 3 rebounds, 2 points, and they end up winning a championship. We'll have to hear how he and his "will" were the missing piece of the puzzle and how valuable his 18 minutes of heart and hustle were the difference. I just have a feeling this guy is going to make me sick to my stomach for the next 10-14 years. 12/18/2008 11:33:21 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Nick Collison with less range. 12/18/2008 11:55:09 PM |