LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
http://spectrum.ieee.org/dec08/7012
I suspect the argument can be made that wealth flows from the clamps of the world's robots. That said, Japan is not twice as productive as America, so is it a cultural trait of the Japanese to over-install robotic capacity? Or is it a rational response to the types of industries predominant in the Japanese economy?
[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 5:41 PM. Reason : lnk]
1/9/2009 5:40:53 PM |
DrSteveChaos All American 2187 Posts user info edit post |
The Economist has been making the argument quite a lot recently that Japan's aversion to immigration has lead to it replacing immigrant workers with robots - they're in a lot of places other than manufacturing. So, in some sense, culture may indeed play a role - just not the role one might expect.
I was a little surprised by America's relatively low ranking - I am left to wonder if this is the result of organized labor's efforts, or simply the fact that tasks that would be automated are simply shifted southwards (whereas comparable alternatives may not have existed in other markets). 1/9/2009 6:02:54 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
It's true that the US has a higher per capita GDP (for now) and fewer robots than japan, but that comes mostly from specialization. Their GDP is comprised of different stuff which requires more robots, they probably have more factories per person than we do, they also don't have as large of a low wage base - thus more robots are an economic necessity.
If you could prove to me that the Japanese have more robots in their homes than we do, then I would accept such a claim, that have more robots is a distinguishing element of their culture.
[Edited on January 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM. Reason : Dr. Chaos beat me to the point] 1/9/2009 6:05:10 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Domo arigato, Mister Roboto
1/9/2009 8:08:33 PM |
radu All American 1240 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how much this graph will change as a result of the Roomba. 1/10/2009 12:27:32 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
This graph only includes industrial robots. If it were to include home robots and service robots then Japan would have an even more insane lead over the rest of the world. 1/10/2009 12:49:52 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
you totally don't know that 1/10/2009 1:23:35 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It's probably a little bit of both.
Japan is a small country, they can't practically afford to a lot of low-wage workers to do the jobs the robots are doing, in terms of living space and health care and food, i'd imagine. At the very least, it may break even with buying robots, with robots having the edge in efficiency. And they have a generation of kids that grew up watching robot-heavy anime, that are now their designers and engineers. 1/10/2009 1:33:38 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
as long as you program it correctly, it doesnt make mistakes
it is always economical to install automation systems in place of people
they dont complain, require health care or breaks, no wages, etc 1/10/2009 1:53:00 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ they do require upkeep and maintenance.
I would bet they're cheaper than a human, but not by much. Their main gains are in speed and efficiency. 1/10/2009 1:54:11 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Ethical necessity, in fact. Human beings shouldn't be forced to labor in ways a mere machine could replicate. Robotic production + a substantial social safety net = the start of some real human culture. 1/10/2009 2:52:29 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I would bet they're cheaper than a human, but not by much. Their main gains are in speed and efficiency " |
And precision And consistency
Which also leads to increases in reliability and quality.
Which places their ROI significantly higher then a human.1/11/2009 5:40:41 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ethical necessity, in fact. Human beings shouldn't be forced to labor in ways a mere machine could replicate. Robotic production + a substantial social safety net = the start of some real human culture.
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What are you, some kind of commie?1/11/2009 5:11:30 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
I think the chart in part reflects the Japanese efforts to modernize, lean, and automate as much of their manufacturing processes as possible. It may also reflect industrial strengths: about 40% of all the robots are used in automotive and electronics manufacturing. For nations like Japan, South Korea, Germany, and Sweden, that makes a lot of sense.
In terms of Japanese productivity, one needs to consider that the nation is built upon a dual economy: one side is the highly efficient, export oriented sector, and the other is a grossly inefficient system of small retailers and government-sponsored cartel-protected, bloated uncompetitive industries. 1/11/2009 6:24:35 PM |
radu All American 1240 Posts user info edit post |
Surely the Roomba could be used in an industrial environment! 1/12/2009 10:34:03 AM |