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1/17/2009 2:56:21 PM

Main Card Bouts:
-Rich Franklin vs. Dan Henderson
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Mark Coleman
-Rousimar Palhares vs. Jeremy Horn
-Denis Kang vs. Alan Belcher
-Marcus Davis vs. Chris Lytle

Preliminary Bouts:
-Martin Kampmann def. Alexandre Barros TKO (Strikes) 3:09 R2
-Eric Schafer def Antonio Mendes by TKO (Strikes) 3:35 R1
-Thomasz Drwal def. Ivan Serati by KO 2:02 R1
-John Hathaway def. Tom Egan by TKO (Strikes) 4:36 R1
-Denis Siver def. Nate Mohr by TKO (Strikes) 3:47 R3


here is the full card w/ the completed undercard

1/17/2009 2:58:17 PM

fuck these motherfuckers and their commercials that are 2.5x louder than anything else on tv

1/17/2009 3:10:47 PM

lol

1/17/2009 3:12:58 PM

Quote :

"-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Mark Coleman"

color me interested

1/17/2009 3:17:21 PM

yea man its gona get settled

im rooting for coleman big time

1/17/2009 3:21:28 PM

this marcus davis - lytle fight is freakin amazing

Marcus Davis def. Chris Lytle by Split Decision

[Edited on January 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM. Reason : s]

1/17/2009 3:25:51 PM

Alan Belcher def. Denis Kang via NICE guillotine off failed takedown attempt

good for belcher

1/17/2009 4:01:37 PM

Wait this is going on right now? I thought UFC fights were usually at night.

1/17/2009 4:02:31 PM

nah its in Dublin Ireland

so its goin on live there lol


they will reair at night normal time, but hell i cant wait that long


Denis Kang seemed real flat...but fuck it man belcher did what he had to do and beat a freakin elite fighter

1/17/2009 4:04:12 PM

Palhares def. Jeremy Horn via Unanimous Decision

that was a a decision taken from the jaws of "being finished in the First round"

so props to the veteran jeremy horn for survivning

1/17/2009 4:35:52 PM

this fight is comical (coleman vs shogun)

[Edited on January 17, 2009 at 5:17 PM. Reason : no spoiler]

1/17/2009 5:10:03 PM

Shogun def. Mark Coleman via TKO


nah i think coleman is a warrior

its easy to have heart when things are goin your way

coleman is a man, and i will not lie i was really upset to see the fight stopped im a huge mark coleman fan and that hurt...buit it was legit coleman was hurt bad. it hurt because he would have won that decision

that being said, shogun looked like shit on a stick hes lucky he never fought chuck, and hes luckier that he will never get a chance to rematch Rampage and id say even luckeir that he will NEVER get the chance to fight Rashad


rashad would kill him, make shogun fight TUF winner ryan bader, after bader beats him send him out to pasture

1/17/2009 5:26:19 PM

good first round in this hendo franklin fight


lol, good start

1/17/2009 5:39:19 PM

nasty open forehead wound from that accidental headbutt

that's gonna hurt in the morning

1/17/2009 5:40:09 PM

thats bullshit


Henderson def. Franklin via split decision


thats bulllshit, thats not the right call at all

the fucker got like 2 takedowns and did nothing, he was being outstruck standing

o my god

[Edited on January 17, 2009 at 5:56 PM. Reason : s]

1/17/2009 5:55:21 PM

shitty fight

headbutt

eye poke

did nothing with 2 takedowns

and won

1/17/2009 5:55:47 PM

i mean it was a good fight


bad fucking decision


whats worse is one judge got 30-27 for franklin


i dont even agree franklin won all three round, but franklin won the last two clearly i thought

horseshit im so sick of these overseas judges

1/17/2009 5:57:09 PM

hendo was right, he better just pack up and get outta town alive

dont be seen in the streets

1/17/2009 6:00:48 PM

Quote :

"horseshit im so sick of these overseas judges"

No fucking shit. after the bisping/hammill decision, they should have started shipping in American judges.

1/17/2009 8:44:05 PM

i just dont feel that henderson did enough of anything on the ground to nullify franklins domination standing...even on the ground after round 1 franklin controlled dan dan didnt do shit to franklin farnklin completely controlled dan and was offensive with submission attempts

yea round 1 was dans round all the way so 30-27 was a bullshit score, but the other two round were franklins...franklin avoided most of dans takedowns (dan had that slick trip though in round 2 that was bad ass) and fanklin was winning the stand up and the clinch striking clearly

o well. both fighters were great out there the fought a fight well worth the wait imo

1/18/2009 2:57:47 AM

Quote :

"that being said, shogun looked like shit on a stick hes lucky he never fought chuck"

uh oh:

http://sherdog.com/news/news/liddell-shogun-to-carry-ufc-97-15815

1/19/2009 1:51:56 PM

The rules are such that they gave too much of an advantage to experienced wrestlers IMO. Taking someone down and then laying there (not saying that hendo did that, just in general) should not automatically give you the win because you were in the so-called dominant position.

They should change the judging criteria such that if you are not active in the guard (whether on bottom or top) you should/could lose the round because of it. I think that would prevent alot of these decisions where the superior wrestler takes someone down and then does just enough work to avoid being stood up by the referee, but not enough to actually submit or damage someone otherwise.

1/19/2009 1:55:51 PM

what a shitty couple of cards coming up...ramage vs. jardine and chuck vs. shogun

well at least I will be saving some money...

1/19/2009 2:18:23 PM

^^yep shogun aint got much time

chuck is gonna destroy him

^its been my long standing opinion that takedowns and defending takedowns (as well as sweeps and reversals back to standing) fall under the "octagon/ring control" criteria....and that criteria is dead last in weight

i think the rules in place as far as weighting techniques iare fine, but judges dont use it properly. Do judges give you a round because you move from an inferior to a neutral position on the ground?? if you escape gaurd and get side control? no they dont, but they give you a round if you can take a guy down and lay on him...even as ineffectively as dan laid on rich.

i think it is because a takedown is one of the most clear effects to the judges...it is hard to tell when some strikes land depending on which judge is at which angle and even harder to tell if a landed strike is effective or not...to me takedowns are just an easy way for judges to score a round

submission attempts there is a certain threshold of whether or not it was actually a close attempt...it could have been close to finishing a fight or it just could have been enough to control the opponent without putting him in danger...or it could be viewed as points to the opponent becaus he "escaped" the hold (diego v.s. fitch)

takedowns are just plain easer to score and more easily recalled

one day itll improve

1/19/2009 2:29:11 PM