has anyone here participated in the Duke Talent Identification Program?

http://www.tip.duke.edu/

My daughter has been chosen to participate in this program, and i would like to know what its like as a student, how advanced it is, and is it really helpful academically?

1/27/2009 11:21:16 AM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 11:22:25 AM

I did it. It was a good experience. If anything it made me finally realize that I would have to start taking schoolwork seriously. And I got to take the SAT with a bunch of high schoolers. I thought that was the coolest thing ever. If I recall correctly, it's not overly advanced enough to be frustrating, just enough to be challenging and fun.

1/27/2009 11:24:37 AM

Hey OP, nice gallery, Christ!

You have a tweener daughter??? You better get that off the internet before she finds it and sees her parent(s) porking.

1/27/2009 11:28:39 AM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 11:28:45 AM

she is in the 4th grade now and we have to take her to the jr. high school to a 6th grade algebra class then back to the elementary school for the rest of her classes. she is in 5th grade science/social studies, and reading/writing advanced classes. just got her report card last friday, and her lowest grade was 92 in the algebra class. she told me last night that she was getting bored in school again, and she really wants to do this TIP program.

i just wanted to make sure it is a good thing for her before i sign her up.

1/27/2009 11:31:52 AM

I did a couple of the events or whatever. Looking back, they were a good introduction to thinking critically about things. I remember one of the weekends I went we watched the Tyson-Holifield fight on HBO when Tyson bit the ear.

1/27/2009 11:55:56 AM

6^ hit the nail on the head, I did it back in like 1997

1/27/2009 11:57:17 AM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

Although I chose not to do it, a good friend of mine did it and said this ^ about it.

Although seems like your daughter might be a step above and needs some new challenges. So I'd probably do it.

1/27/2009 12:03:16 PM

I did it, I don't recall it being that beneficial but it was cool to take the SAT so early, kind of takes the mystery out of it

also you get to tell your friends you're already smarter than x percentile of high schoolers, which is cool I guess

1/27/2009 12:05:31 PM

awesome thanks for the info...

1/27/2009 12:10:18 PM

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" basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

yep, me too

it was a good experience to take the SAT in 7th grade (let see.... 1992 or 93, i guess), and still managed to score higher than the average incoming NCSU student.
I got the county high-score, so I had an opportunity to go to Duke for a week or two during the summer for some special program, but it was something like $2000 just to do that, so we couldn't afford it.

1/27/2009 12:10:41 PM

i too was in the Duke Talent Identification Program and I dont really remember anything about it haha. All I remember is:

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

1/27/2009 12:13:49 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

QFT

1/27/2009 12:25:12 PM

i did it

just to repeat...

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"basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade "

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"I did a couple of the events or whatever. Looking back, they were a good introduction to thinking critically about things."

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"I did it, I don't recall it being that beneficial but it was cool to take the SAT so early, kind of takes the mystery out of it also you get to tell your friends you're already smarter than x percentile of high schoolers, which is cool I guess "

1/27/2009 12:26:26 PM

i participated in a few of these as well. If she's getting bored it will definitely be a good challenge for her. It sounds like she is going to need more than standard cirriculum to keep her advancing at the level she is. May be time to think about some out of school advancement programs. This will be a good start.

1/27/2009 12:34:57 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade "

1/27/2009 12:40:35 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

This.

THe camps and stuff IIRC costed money that my parents didn't want to spend though.

1/27/2009 12:46:59 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 12:50:43 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 12:54:57 PM

was this the thing with the saturday classes?

1/27/2009 12:56:35 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 1:23:06 PM

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"May be time to think about some out of school advancement programs. This will be a good start."

yea thats what im thinking.

1/27/2009 1:24:39 PM

teach her latin now, it makes learning, spanish-french-italian etc very easy and she will have a very good understanding of the SAT root words as well...

1/27/2009 1:28:06 PM

^good idea

1/27/2009 1:32:36 PM

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"he told me last night that she was getting bored in school again, and she really wants to do this TIP program. i just wanted to make sure it is a good thing for her before i sign her up."

Please do it. Maybe she'll learn some study skills that will help her greatly in AP classes or college.

I was SO BORED with school all throughout elementary/jr. high that I never had to study to make As.

When you get to college, you learn you have to study A LOT to make As in some classes.

TIP will hopefully help her learn this.

Please please take her. It's a great opportunity.

1/27/2009 1:40:05 PM

I did it...and it really will open some doors up for your kid.

First, the more you take the SAT, the better you get at it.

Secondly, she will get opportunities to go to summer camps at Duke, etc. depending on her scores. You have to pay, and my parents were too poor, but I really think that you should if you can. Your child's peers determine later life educational attainment as well as income and so you should take every opportunity to place them with other intelligent children in environments that really focus on learning.

1/27/2009 2:00:36 PM

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"I was SO BORED with school all throughout elementary/jr. high that I never had to study to make As."

haha that was me all the way until soph year of college and hitting my first Engineering classes...first Eng tests were big wakeup call

1/27/2009 2:23:29 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

-except I only outscored my 7th grade self by about 150

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1/27/2009 2:50:40 PM

yeah i did the SAT thing in 7th grade, but i don't think i ever did anything else with it. just got letters occasionally

1/27/2009 2:56:45 PM

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"Hey OP, nice gallery, Christ! You have a tweener daughter??? You better get that off the internet before she finds it and sees her parent(s) porking."

LOL -- seriously... Is that you??

1/27/2009 2:56:56 PM

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"-except I only outscored my 7th grade self by about 150 "

I think thats fairly normal. I outscored my 7th grade self by 200 pts

1/27/2009 3:06:22 PM

I outscored my 7th grade self by like 360 points.

You also have to remember though the SAT scale isn't absolute. So you can't really directly compare different years.

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1/27/2009 3:14:46 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

i did like one of their duke tip weekends and it was enjoyable, but if i remember correctly, overall, all of the classes/activities were kind of expensive which is why i really didnt do anything else

However, in the end I do totally recommend doing it, if only for the "experiencing the SAT" thing. like a couple of people have already said, the more often you take the SAT, the better off you are. In addition to taking it in the 7th grade, I also took it every year in highschool, so when it really mattered, I was very comfortable and familiar with the test. And that just didnt help with the SAT, it also helped down the line for other standardized tests like the GRE and the GMAT.

1/27/2009 3:15:19 PM

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" "Hey OP, nice gallery, Christ! You have a tweener daughter??? You better get that off the internet before she finds it and sees her parent(s) porking." LOL -- seriously... Is that you??"

this is all explained in the chit chat section...

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1/27/2009 3:37:08 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

1/27/2009 4:21:02 PM

i would love to be back in K-12 and bored as fuck again

i did the TIP thing. took the SAT and agree w/ pshoes. it was good to already have some experience w/ the SAT i guess. i also did one of their other tests and i didn't really gain anything from it.

1/27/2009 4:32:46 PM

it's a great thing to do.
Try to get her into as many advanced stuff as you can without it socially isolating her from kids her age.

I beat my 7th grade self by like 500pts., and my dad says I still could of gotten into NCSU in 7th grade

1/27/2009 4:39:04 PM

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"could of"

Didn't do too well on the verbal, did you?

1/27/2009 4:50:21 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 4:53:32 PM

did anyone not do it?

1/27/2009 5:21:56 PM

1/27/2009 5:22:01 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade



And everyone I know did it.

1/27/2009 5:37:32 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you weren't able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores because you went to a school where your friends' SAT scores were frequently higher than yours"

way too many people at NCSSM got 1600s and shit

1/27/2009 5:41:20 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

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"I got the county a high score, so I had an opportunity to go to Duke for a week or two during the summer for some special program, but it was something like $2000 just to do that, so we couldn't afford it. "

1/27/2009 5:46:33 PM

But seriously, there are lots of programs outside the TIP stuff. There are tons of academic summer programs in writing and math and science and all sorts of shit. I encourage all parents to get their kids doing at least a camp or two over the summer and a little something extra during the school year.

And I think Arab's advice on learning Latin is lame. Kids should be learning languages early on anyway. And again they should be studying roots all throughout middle and high school in their English classes. I dunno it just seems lame to be like, "I memorized Latin so I could get twenty extra points on the SAT!!!" That mentality emphasizes competition, not cognitive growth. Of course, if your kid is interested in science and medicine and shit, having a background in Latin is always good, but they'll learn that anyway as a function of science and medicine and shit.

1/27/2009 5:47:57 PM

yeah, i heard the same thing about Latin - it's "so great" to learn so then you can deconstruct the roots of words on the SAT. So assuming that's true, you spend 2+ years really learning and studying a dead language so you can get an extra, what.... 40 points on the SAT? bah. Just read a lot, do other vocabulary exercises, and use that time to learn a relevant language like Spanish, German, Japanese, whatever.

I did Latin for 2 years, and apart from being dull as shit, I'm not sure it helped me one bit on the SAT. And even if it did, like I said, help me with 3, 4, 6 problems, that's what - 20 or 40 points? big deal. not worth it for 2 years of shitty classes.


and back to the TIP program - i thought back then, and still think, it's pretty lame of Duke to build up this big program, get hundreds or thousands of kids excited to take the SAT, then charge the best ones $2000 to come hang out at Duke for a week in the summer. Duke is certainly not hurting for money - could they not subsidize the program a bit (or a bit more, if they already do something), or at least for needy families, just to get the best and brightest onto their campus and interested in learning? I was really dissapointed that I couldn't go because there was no way we could pay that much $texas back then....

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1/27/2009 6:04:50 PM

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"i did it basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade"

1/27/2009 6:08:47 PM

i did it

basically the final result was you were able to make fun of friends of yours in hs when they got their SAT scores and you outscored them in 7th grade

1/27/2009 6:10:51 PM

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"this is all explained in the chit chat section..."

Haha so it is you

1/27/2009 6:11:09 PM