Wait I can't watch a Big Four game on the tube, and to have any hope I have to get ACC Select or Pack Pass? Fuck that! This is complete bullshit that this game isn't broadcasted. It would be a great lead in to the Duke/Crapolina game for all of the Big Four basketball fans out there. :mad:

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/ncsu/story/1401662.html

Heat is on for State and Wake
Pack and Deacs renew rivalry at RBC Center

RALEIGH -- The N.C. State-Wake Forest basketball series began heating up for the first time in 1910, back when the horse and buggy was one mode of transportation.

As these Big Four foes prepare for their 228th head-to-head shootout tonight at the RBC Center, there's no indication that the flames from this century-old rivalry are flickering out.

The teams have split the past 10 games, with the Wolfpack winning four of five at home, including a buzzer-beater victory last season.

Though on contrasting paths this season, with Wake ranked No. 7 nationally and State stuck in the ACC's lower depths, another photo finish wouldn't be shocking.

Perhaps there will be another frenetic finish like last year, when Ben McCauley followed a missed shot with a throw-down dunk at the buzzer, lifting State to a 67-65 win. Wake later evened the score with a 78-67 victory in Winston-Salem. So goes the seesaw series.

"It's Big Four; it's State; it has become a very heated rivalry," Wake coach Dino Gaudio said. "We have great respect for them."

The heat intensified in 2005 when Deacons point guard Chris Paul punched the Pack's Julius Hodge in the groin, an incident still being screened on YouTube. The Wake star added insult to injury that night on the Wolfpack's home court by hitting the winning shot as time expired.

Paul, who apologized for his mistake, drew a one-game suspension at the ACC Tournament that proved costly to the Deacons. The Pack quickly eliminated a Paul-less Wake 81-65.

After that season, Paul left early for the NBA and Wake dipped. Yet the underdog Deacons still beat Herb Sendek's NCAA Tournament-bound Wolfpack twice in one week that season -- in the final regular-season game and again in the first round of the conference tournament.

But the first real sparks of the rivalry came Dec. 11, 1965. That's when a transformer fire knocked out the lights at Reynolds Coliseum and forced a suspension of the game. Seventy-four days later, on Feb. 23, State finished its 101-75 victory.

"It's always a great game," said State coach Sidney Lowe, who knows a thing or three about the series' history.

In 1983, the year the Pack won the national championship, Lowe dished out 14 assists in a 130-89 victory over Wake at Reynolds.

The Deacons also have had their moments.

In 1975, coach Carl Tacy's team upset the No. 1-ranked, David Thompson-led Pack. And in 2003, Skip Prosser's Deacs beat State 78-72 in Raleigh, giving Wake its first outright ACC regular-season championship in 40 years.

But history won't tell the tale tonight.

To have a shot of pulling off an upset, State can't afford another 22-turnover game like it experienced in Sunday's loss at Virginia Tech. Nor can the Pack allow Deacons guard Jeff Teague to go on a scoring tear.

Wake is dealing with some issues as well. The Deacs have lost their past two road games, and the RBC Center crowd can get howling loud. State's big men, Brandon Costner and McCauley -- who had a 25-point, 15-rebound performance at Virginia Tech -- also are a handful, Gaudio noted.

"We've got to do a good job in post defense," Gaudio said. "But when they throw it inside, you can't give a lot of support. McCauley is as good a post passer as there is in the country, [and] they've got a bunch of guys who can shoot the 3. Also, Sidney does a terrific job exploiting mismatches. He still has that NBA mentality."

Gaudio just hopes his Deacons play like they did in the second half against Boston College, when they hit shots and held the Eagles to 29 points. In short, just keep the heat on in the "heated" rivalry.

2/11/2009 8:17:43 AM

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2/11/2009 8:19:12 AM

not on TV?

dammit. now i have to make the drive and go.

2/11/2009 8:22:27 AM

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"In 1983, the year the Pack won the national championship, Lowe dished out 14 assists in a 130-89 victory over Wake at Reynolds."

good god, did they play any defense during this game?

2/11/2009 8:23:14 AM

what a fucking joke. TV coverage is ACC Select...

sucks for those of us who will be at work or can't make it to the game

2/11/2009 8:27:06 AM

oh, and i need 1 student ticket. if anyone has one and can just send me the screenshot or PDF that would rock

2/11/2009 8:30:04 AM

It would probably be on T.V.


IF WE DIDNT SUCK!!!!!!!



sidney lowe is a joke, dont blame television, blame our lousy ass basketball program

2/11/2009 8:36:21 AM

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"not on TV?"

I guess you do have to see the game to determine which of the following will occur:

Two teams playing fairly even until one team goes on an 8 minute scoring drought
One team building a 20 point lead and then finding a way to blow it.

Plus with the battle between the great evils on tonight you'd be lucky if all the other stations aren't playing crappy 90s movies that no one watched / liked.

[Edited on February 11, 2009 at 8:38 AM. Reason : -]

2/11/2009 8:36:21 AM

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"Also, Sidney does a terrific job exploiting mismatches. He still has that NBA mentality."

yeah, the problem here is that you need more talent than the opposing team

2/11/2009 9:16:22 AM

only bonus to a bad baskeball team is that i consistently get front row, sideline tickets...but this means i'm only closer to the collapse.

2/11/2009 9:19:44 AM

well, my short-lived career as a mojo thread creator is over for good

but i don't think we'll have anything to collapse from in this game

2/11/2009 9:28:30 AM

don't worry guys...I am on full mojo patrol tonight.

we've got this game.

2/11/2009 9:32:27 AM

There may be a length of time during this game where we score more points than WF.

2/11/2009 9:35:25 AM

All games involving the Big Four playing each other should be broadcasted. It doesn't matter how lousy one of the teams is. If UVA and GT can still get their games on TV then we should be able to at least have a game against one of our biggest rivals on TV. Besides it won't interfere with the game between the evil empires b/c it's not on at the same time. This is complete bullshit.

2/11/2009 9:45:50 AM

Will any bars show it?

2/11/2009 10:08:00 AM

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"It would probably be on T.V. IF WE DIDNT SUCK!!!!!!! sidney lowe is a joke, dont blame television, blame our lousy ass basketball program"

the games are picked before the fucking season starts, dumbasses.

raycom didn't want NC State/WF to run long over UNC/Duke so they didn't take the chance at a doubleheader obviously.

2/11/2009 10:23:56 AM

Who didn't know we sucked before the season started?

2/11/2009 10:29:46 AM

touche

2/11/2009 10:35:52 AM

How the fuck is #8Wake vs. NCState not televised on fucking rivalry week? I mean give me ESPNU or something for Christ's sake....

2/11/2009 11:01:45 AM

i mean this is the better half of the tobacco road rivalry (sarcasm) and they cant give us espnU...

espn could have made some fun out of it

example:

"tune into espnU at 7:00 for the first part of the historic tobacco road rivalries with nc state hosting wake forest, then at 9:00 for the biggest rivalry in college sports duke and unc"

they were scared the nation would stick to our game during the overlap (2nd sarcasm)

2/11/2009 11:10:48 AM

is there a site that streams ACC SELECT? I checked some of the sites I use for streaming sports and none of them have our game. Anyone?

2/11/2009 12:53:40 PM

so we only play d00k ONCE a year, and now NCSU vs WF isn't even televised? WTF is wrong with you people???

2/11/2009 12:58:43 PM

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"Will any bars show it?"

2/11/2009 1:05:05 PM

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" the games are picked before the fucking season starts, dumbasses."

2/11/2009 1:12:05 PM

so is someone gonna stream the acc select broadcast for us cheapskates?

2/11/2009 1:28:14 PM

You guys probably don't wanna see this one anyway.

I can see Teague going off for 30 and us having 20+ turnovers.

Wake 82 State 68

2/11/2009 1:52:00 PM

Any chance this game is on ESPN360? If so we could probably find a username and password somewhere

2/11/2009 2:16:57 PM

no, its not on there

and how hard it is it for you to look up yourself?

2/11/2009 2:27:53 PM

just suck it up and buy the shitstream for 5 bux on acc select, hook to your TV, hook to sound, and sit back and enjoy










the loss.

2/11/2009 2:43:30 PM

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"and how hard it is it for you to look up yourself?"

ESPN is blocked at work motherfucker, don't be a douchebag

2/11/2009 2:55:43 PM

^ agreed

2/11/2009 3:57:15 PM

I'm pulling for a Pack victory or a loss by more than 6.

2/11/2009 4:04:34 PM

Hope to win and remind the home crowd what a win over a ranked opponent feels like.

2/11/2009 4:48:26 PM

for the locals, someone said the game would be televised at Hi-5

2/11/2009 5:19:03 PM

Game will be on at Woody's Sports Tavern and Grill on Chapel Hill Rd. in Cary.

They are hooking up two computers to a couple of Big Screen TV's with sound if anyone is interested.

2/11/2009 5:27:40 PM

Watching a 30 point loss at Hi-5

I can't think of many things worse than that

2/11/2009 5:29:23 PM

I'll shell out the $6 or whatever to watch it on Pack Pass

this is about as pathetic as the UNC/NCSU football game not being televised outside of Raleigh and Chapel Hill a couple years ago

2/11/2009 5:30:53 PM

so there's no free video feed?

2/11/2009 5:35:07 PM

packpass has free radio

2/11/2009 5:37:06 PM

ridiculous this shit isn't on tv somewhere

2/11/2009 5:49:27 PM

any student tickets out there?

2/11/2009 6:02:38 PM

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"Game will be on at Woody's Sports Tavern and Grill on Chapel Hill Rd. in Cary. They are hooking up two computers to a couple of Big Screen TV's with sound if anyone is interested."

exactly what i was looking for. that's where I'll be

2/11/2009 6:08:18 PM

Anybody else have trouble getting Acc select to work? Whenever I log in, it just shows the little loading circle for eternity....

2/11/2009 6:15:38 PM

I just had three lower level general admin tickets handed to me that I can't use - if anyone wants them PM me, first come first serve (no charge, section 120, no parking pass, can meet you at or near the RBC center).

I'll be leaving shortly so if you want them get on it.

2/11/2009 6:23:57 PM

Sammy's bar and grill streamed the State vs. NC Central game to their TV's last week.

Probably will do the same for this game.

2/11/2009 6:25:14 PM

please to stream for out of towners

2/11/2009 6:33:10 PM

Should be funny to have the stream going at a bar

For those of you who haven't watched a game on ACC Select before, they basically show the scoreboard's video of the game, and match in the Gary and Tony radio audio...during timeouts you get to see people in the crowd and stuff...and the audio quality isn't superb so it might sound shitty in bar speakers

oh well, GO PACK!

2/11/2009 6:43:57 PM

caved in and did the ACC select.. much dumber things i could spend 6 bones on.

2/11/2009 6:48:22 PM

If you're in the Raleigh area the radio broadcast has switched from 101.5 to 99.9 for tonights game

2/11/2009 6:52:52 PM

Can someone stream this shit!

2/11/2009 6:54:05 PM