There once was a 4 bedroom 4 bath apartment. It had affordable rent, decent location, and a nice private landlord. It had 4 male tenants.

Lets go clockwise and call the rooms A, B, C and D.
A would be me, Work full time, been in the apartment 4+ years.
B would be a full time student, keeps to himself, been here ~2 years.
C would be a part time student, also ~2 years.
All of the above keep to themselves, clean up there shit, and do not often mess up the common areas.
D would be an older male, no job, supported/rent paid for him by family, who seems intent on drinking and smoking his way into oblivion. Combine this with folks coming over to hang out with him at odd hours, and at least 1 visit of the RPD looking for someone he had spoken to earlier that day.

Now given that he has only been here since last august, I may be a bit harsh to pass judgment. However, after having some of my soft drinks and the like get used up by his friends who 'assumed' that since they were in the pantry they were up for grabs, having a bottle or 2 of my booze disappear from the bar shelves, and having to deal with anyone who is looking for him bang on the door at 1-2 am trying to get him to come let them in, is it out of line to consider landlord involvement?

I have, several times in the past asked that he dump the recycle bin, which fills, fast, with beer bottle and cans. I already have a reinforced door on my room that stays locked, and I keep most of my stuff locked up out of habit, other than booze, etc that was in the common area where it had gone unmolested for 4 years of living here. I was not in the best mood after getting back form a range day, sitting down to clean guns, and having RPD ask to come in to talk to him. That made my night a few weeks back. I calmed down, he swore up and down that he 'did not know the guy they were looking for, just met him that day'. I let it go. Throw in constant folks in and out of the front door/leaving it unlocked when he has people over, so that they may duck out to smoke. Throw in stuff like constant use of the stove and oven without use of the range hood, I scrubbed all the GD grease from cooking meat on a foreman there off the walls/counters when I noticed it was sticky. He has been asked multiple times to not do stuff, aka don't smoke right outside the door, don't toss his cig butts in the parking lot, don't let his buddies toss empties next to the building, don't smoke OR smoke up on the patio porch, etc.

I think its reached the 'tell Landlord I will move out if he stays on' stage. What think you, almighty trolls of TWW?

3/11/2009 12:53:22 AM

i'd probably talk to your roommates and see what they think. If you all agree, i'd probably say all 3 of you try to confront him and calmly try to work it out. sometimes people just need a reminder that something they are doing is bothering their other roommates. Only after you try to be reasonable and chill about it, and he isn't responding positively, should you try to get your landlord involved.

3/11/2009 12:57:09 AM

you should get rid of him. This one will not turn around. You could talk yourself blue in the face to him, it won't help. You should see what the other two think and call landlord.

3/11/2009 1:00:29 AM

yeah honestly I don't see a guy like that changing if your description is accurate

that's a trainwreck of a roommate if I've ever seen one and the correct answer is get that guy out of your life, ideally get rid of him but if not for your sanity get out of there

3/11/2009 1:19:00 AM

^^ & ^^^ What they said.

3/11/2009 1:22:07 AM

^^I wouldn't call him a train wreck. He doesn't fit in at this particular place, but that doesn't make him some horrible roomie. It just means he should move.

3/11/2009 2:42:02 AM

maybe it's you that is the problem

3/11/2009 3:10:11 AM

^ Even if it is, he has seniority in the place. If he wants to bitch to management he can. Doesn't mean anything will come of it though.

3/11/2009 3:18:35 AM

put some rat poison in his weed stash.

3/11/2009 8:32:12 AM

You can try talking to the landlord, but none of the things he has done sound bad enough to get the landlord to kick him out. Landlords don't want to get involved in personal matters between tenants. That's a quick way to get tied up in a lawsuit.

If you can't get anywhere with the guy or the landlord then I'd say you should grab the other two people and get a three bedroom place. There was a three bedroom 2 bath on Kaplan Dr. last week for $1050. It was between Melbourne and Pineview if you want to go look for it.

3/11/2009 9:13:49 AM

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"^ Even if it is, he has seniority in the place."

There is no such thing as seniority in an apartment where everyone pays the same amount of rent. It doesn't sound like the guy has done anything worth being evicted over, so it seems you only have a few options.

1. Get him to change his life which will cause him to be a more tolerable roommate.
2. Convince him to move.
3. Find a new place to live.

At this point the only help you could probably get from your landlord is working out a deal to let you move to another unit (if they own more/have any available).

3/11/2009 9:50:59 AM

If all three of you tell the land lord that you are leaving if he doesn't, then he will not have his lease renewed.

The landlord will care that police are there. There is something called the PROP ordinance. If it is a problem unit, then it is put on a list, and the landlord has to register the unit and pay $500 to rent it out the next year. There are other reasons why as well, but I don't feel like getting into it.

3/11/2009 11:30:14 AM

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"It doesn't sound like the guy has done anything worth being evicted over"

I'm guessing by your response that this is your lifestyle as well?

evict this kid and move on with your life.

3/11/2009 12:40:04 PM

We had this trouble with a fail roommate of ours. We were helped by the fact that the fail roommate had a lot of previous trouble with the landlord (paying rent very late mostly) and we told the landlord if he didn't renew the roommate's lease then we would get our good responsible friend in...otherwise we would consider moving. It worked out for the best.

3/11/2009 2:10:30 PM

^^^^ Legally you are correct. But I know that when I moved into one of those POS apartments where you rented by the room I would pay heed to whatever it was the guys renting before me were wanting, unless it was absolutely ridiculous.

3/11/2009 9:24:49 PM