ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ not to mention that South Carolina has a stud basketball coach who will get them near the top of the league in no time 3/18/2013 12:00:27 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^I like our coaches too and think we will do good things under them.
Quote : | "Toss all these teams in a conference and see who gets off the list last." |
Good idea!3/18/2013 9:13:42 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Not sure if you are serious about Frank Martin or not. Some people hate that dude and think he simply rode the coat tails of Huggins at K-State. I actually think Frank Martin is a pretty good coach and was a damn steal for USC. If Martin can turn USC into a winner, then he will have pulled off what Spurrier did with the football program. 3/18/2013 9:36:20 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Well after this week I am starting to think about who we should invite to our new Un-Super Conference.
First off there is no doubt we have to have...
NC State South Carolina Utah (haven't won a title in the Pac-12 yet)
Then...
Iowa State (last won the Big 8 in basketball in the mid-90s, last football title MVC co-champs 1912) Ole Miss (finally won a basketball title for the first time since 1982) Vanderbilt (outside of recent success in basketball not much else) Baylor (last title was 1994 SWC co-conference football championship) Minnesota (does their basketball title in the 90s even count in the record books?) Army (last won the CIC Trophy in 1996, currently on an 11 game losing streak to Navy in football) Next we can add whoever is the worst performing team in the Ivy League Then add the worst performing HBCU school Then we can top it off with Idaho since they are a I-A independent in football who is currently 1-10, and got destroyed by FSU today.
We can call ourselves the Little 12.
The sad part is that if this league really did exist this season, we wouldn't be favored to win it in basketball, or football. 11/24/2013 2:31:24 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Lets take a look at the unsuper conference standings from a basketball point of view...
NC State-Pretty much been walked all over on Tobacco Road and hasn't beat a ranked team all season. We also lost to NCCU.
#15 Iowa State-6 wins vs ranked teams and beat Iowa and Northern Iowa.
Ole Miss-17-11 (8-7) they have a win vs Mississippi State
Vanderbilt-15-12 (7-8) They beat Missouri who beat NC State and have a win vs Tennessee
Baylor-18-10 (6-9) They have a win over #3 Kentucky
Minnesota-18-11 (7-9) wins vs #11 Ohio Sate, #9 Wisconsin, and #20 Iowa
Army-13-15 (9-8) Lost to Air Force, beat Citadel, went 1-1 vs Navy
South Carolina-10-18 (3-12) Haven't beat a ranked team and lost to Clemson
Utah-18-9 (7-8) They beat BYU
I guess that means the current standings are...
1) Iowa State 2) Minnesota 3) Baylor 4) Ole Miss 5) Vanderbilt 6) Utah 7) NC State 7) Army 8) South Carolina
NC State is better than Army, but Army is tied in the standing with them because Army has a win vs Navy and a winning record in conference. At least they have that to brag about.
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 12:56 AM. Reason : .] 2/27/2014 12:50:13 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, didn't Ole Miss win the SEC last season?
Yep, Conference tournament champions 1981, 2013
Dude, didn't Vanderbilt win the SEC the season before last?
Yep, Conference tournament champions 1927, 1952, 2012
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 1:05 AM. Reason : ]
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 1:05 AM. Reason : Also see you've acknowledged it 2 posts up, my bad] 2/27/2014 1:04:03 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^You're right, but when forming a conference you have to invite more than 3 teams. I'm pretty sure that you have to have 7+ teams for it to be considered a conference. Because of recent success I guess Ole Miss and Vanderbilt are the powerhouses of the league. 2/27/2014 1:20:51 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
And when you toss in Idaho, Grambling State (3-20 and swept by Southern), and Columbia (went 0-10 in football) it looks like we actually move up in the standings.
1) Iowa State 2) Minnesota 3) Baylor 4) Ole Miss 5) Vanderbilt 6) Utah 7) NC State 8) Columbia 17-10 (6-4) beat Army and Idaho 9) Army 10) Idaho 12-16 (5-8) Lost to Boise State but beat Idaho State 11) South Carolina 12) Grambling State 3-20 (2-12) 2/27/2014 2:10:00 AM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
I would also add making a BCS bowl or Final Four to a list of acceptable accomplishments.
Utah did this in FB. Minnesota did it with Clem Haskins (though it got repealed I guess).
Also certain ISU won a Big 12 title with Marcus Fizer/Larry Eustachy.
Wait, nvm, you're going by some new stupid criteria now...
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 2:14 PM. Reason : I don't get what's being done now] 2/27/2014 2:13:06 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^ Why isnt Tennessee on the list, have they won anything of note? 2/27/2014 2:28:25 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
98 national title. 2/27/2014 3:07:01 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
They won a couple of SEC titles and a National Championship in that time. I would think that was common knowledge?
Oh wait, you still think that I'm some Tennessee fan whose nuts you ride or something. Do I have to send you my Facebook or something?
Do you just not read the substance of my posts? I used to be Luigi. I've told you that like 3 times now. Why do you think I'm a Tennessee fan? Link to a post.
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM. Reason : E] 2/27/2014 3:08:00 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^I agree, but losing in the final still equals no national title. Utah lost. The list is of schools who play in power conferences who have no titles in the power conferences since 1987. 2/27/2014 3:51:52 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
I thought you'd moved past that and gone on to making up some fictitious loser conference in which we play against Grambling.
Omg we are so bad let's move to the MEAC
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 4:18 PM. Reason : Also Baylor won the Big XII this year] 2/27/2014 4:16:30 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah that is a fictitious conference and we're pretty much the only school that hasn't beat a ranked team, or our rival. Some have done worse though.
[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 5:38 PM. Reason : .] 2/27/2014 5:37:28 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Just for fun...
2013 Unsuper Conference Football Standings
1) Baylor: Big 12 Champion 2) South Carolina: 11-2 won a bowl and beat Clemson 3) Ole Miss: 8-5 and won a bowl, lost to Mississippi State, but beat #6 LSU, and Vanderbilt 4) Vanderbilt: 9-4 won a bowl, beat Tennessee, and #15 Georgia 5) Minnesota: 8-5 Lost a bowl game to Syracuse 6) Utah: 5-7 beat Utah State and BYU 7) Iowa State: 3-9 Lost to Iowa and Northern Iowa, but won 2 conference games 8) NC State: 3-9 and lost to WF, Duke, UNC, and ECU, 0-8 in the ACC 9) Army: 3-9 Had 2 wins vs I-A teams, lost to Air force and to Navy for the 11th time in a row 10) Idaho: 1-11 They got blown out in every game and didn't even play Boise State 11) Grambling State: 1-11 and lost to rival Southern 12) Columbia: 0-10 on the season 2/28/2014 1:37:53 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Iowa State alert 3/15/2014 8:53:23 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
why's Ole Miss on the list? they won the SEC tournament last year....and the tournament champ is all that matters
/sarsasm 3/15/2014 8:59:40 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
oh you so sarsastic 3/15/2014 9:25:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148389 Posts user info edit post |
^^It is in the ACC. Do you still not know that? 3/15/2014 10:00:52 PM |
Kickstand All American 11572 Posts user info edit post |
This is so sad as a NC State fan.
Iowa State may not have won the regular season, but they can boast about winning their conference tournament. 3/16/2014 12:16:26 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
The sadder thing is that it will be really sweet when we finally win that conference title, only for it to be a flash in the pan, like Wake or BC's ACC FB title .We'll promptly be back to being State.
All that pent up frustration/heartbreak and yet our enjoyment will be all but a fleeting moment. I guess Phd students can relate to it
[Edited on March 16, 2014 at 1:24 AM. Reason : ] 3/16/2014 1:22:38 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^^They have won three since the late 90s now. I wish we could do that.
[Edited on March 16, 2014 at 12:50 PM. Reason : .] 3/16/2014 12:49:43 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^^Or just never even get that flash in the pan.
I'll take a flash in the pan. 3/16/2014 3:17:31 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Mid Season Unsuper Conference Common Sense Misery Rankings
Utah 16-3 (6-1) Ranked 11, beat rival BYU, beat #8 Wichita State Baylor 15-5 (3-4) beat South Carolina and has wins over 2 ranked teams, is currently #20. Iowa State 15-4 (5-2)Lost to Baylor, beat rivals Iowa and Drake, Beat 4 ranked teams including Kansas, lost to South Carolina. Is ranked #15. Ole Miss 13-7 (4-3) Beat Cincinnati, #12 Creighton, #19 Arkansas, rival MSU, lost to Kentucky in OT. South Carolina 10-9 (1-6), beat Clemson, Beat Iowa State, Lost to Ole Miss NC State 13-9 (4-5) They beat Duke and Wake Forest, but have flopped in all of their other big games. Army 14-6 (5-4) Beat Air Force and VMI, but lost to Navy. Beat Southern California. Columbia 9-7 (1-1) and have a 10 point loss to Kentucky. Minnesota 13-9 (2-7) Nothing stands out Vanderbilt 11-9 (1-6) nothing awesome stands out on their schedule. Idaho 8-10 (3-4) Lost to Boise State, but beat Idaho State. Grambling State 2-15 (0-7) lost to rival Southern
See it could be worse! 1/29/2015 10:37:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148389 Posts user info edit post |
Wake Forest was a big game? 1/29/2015 11:40:53 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27802 Posts user info edit post |
Lol wake ] 1/29/2015 11:57:22 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^Well at least we started 1-0 and beat another in state school. 1/29/2015 11:57:34 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Unsuper Conference Basketball Final Standings
Iowa State (25-9, 12-6): Won some big games, beat some rivals, Big XII Tournament Champions Utah (26-9, 13-5): Beat #8 Wichita State, beat rival BYU, finished second in the Pac-12, lost in the Sweet 16 NC State (22-14, 10-8): Won some big games, beat some rivals, lost in the Sweet 16 Baylor (24-10, 11-7): Beat some rivals and ranked teams, lost in the NCAA Second Round Ole Miss (21-13,11-7): Split with South Carolina, beat some ranked teams, swept rival MSU, almost beat Kentucky, lost in the NCAA Second Round. Vanderbilt (21-14, 9-9): Finished 1-2 vs Tennessee, beat South Carolina and Ole Miss, lost in the NIT quarterfinals South Carolina (17-16, 6-12): Beat Clemson, split with Ole Miss, lost in SEC Quarterfinals Minnesota (18-15, 6-12): Winning at Michigan State in OT is their one achievement Army (15-15, 6-12): Beat Air Force, beat VMI, went 0-3 vs Navy who handed them a season ending loss in the conference tournament first round Idaho (13-17, 8-10): Split with Idaho State Columbia (13-15, 5-9): Lost by 10 to Kentucky Grambling State (2-27, 0-18) Lost twice to rival Southern
[Edited on March 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .] 3/28/2015 2:21:28 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25493 Posts user info edit post |
Grambling State was 2-27? Guess it's more like Grumbling State then on account of all the fans grumbling about the poor results. 3/28/2015 3:18:58 PM |
alfredough All American 1121 Posts user info edit post |
If Iowa State won their conference championship, shouldn't they be removed from this list? 3/28/2015 7:56:00 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
no, because it's the regular season that matters, not the conference tournament 3/28/2015 8:44:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148389 Posts user info edit post |
not in the ACC (in which Iowa State is not a team obviously) 3/28/2015 9:22:45 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Iowa State should be removed. They won a conference trophy. That is more than State has done in like 30 years. 3/28/2015 9:40:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148389 Posts user info edit post |
Iowa State won the regular season in 2000 and 2001. Hell, the won the Big XII tourney LAST year as well as this year (as well as in 2000 and 1996). They shouldn't have been on the list in the first place. 3/28/2015 9:47:39 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^Well when forming this fictional unsuper conference I had to take into account football and basketball. Iowa State is the perfect football team for this league. Their list of football championships consists of...
1911 Missouri Valley Conference Co-champions 1912 Missouri Valley Conference Co-champions 3/29/2015 12:47:14 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
this thread just got really confusing 3/29/2015 12:53:21 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather be consistently mediocre throughout than have long periods of being LastInACC and winning it once in 20 years. 3/29/2015 1:03:38 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^^Not really. My fictitious league is made up of teams that have achieved little to nothing in football, basketball, or both. I think the NCAA requires a minimum of 7 teams in a league to gain an automatic bid to NCAA tournaments. I started this thread in 2009. At that time NC State, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Ole Miss, DePaul (basketball), and Marquette (Basketball) were all in power conferences and Utah wasn't. Since then Marquette and DePaul have left the power conferences (Big East isn't the same), Utah joined a power conference, and Vanderbilt and Ole Miss have won a basketball title. We just need some of those schools still in there to have a league.
[Edited on March 29, 2015 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .] 3/29/2015 1:13:21 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
it's confusing because Iowa State actually has achieved quite a bit since '09
including two titles 3/29/2015 3:02:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148389 Posts user info edit post |
and Baylor has a couple Big XII titles in football 3/29/2015 3:05:57 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
doeren will solve this problem next year 3/29/2015 3:10:39 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
damn. Art Briles makes $4.2M / year
all that for having never won a conference title 3/29/2015 3:17:51 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I mean fuck the abortion that is the new Big East but calling it a non-power Bball conference is borderline retarded.. 3/29/2015 6:02:03 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
It's definitely arguable, that conference lives off name alone as we've seen in the tournament 3/29/2015 6:43:42 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think we're going to win a title in either sport next year, but this is the first time I can remember in the last 10 years being completely confident that we will make the postseason in both sports.
I also think NJIT should be in the unsuper conference if you're willing to include schools with no football team. The men's team had a streak of 54 straight losses (longest by any school ever). This has been a pretty good season and they are in the CIT semi-final tonight, but nothing erases the losses from 2007-2009.
[Edited on March 30, 2015 at 1:43 PM. Reason : -] 3/30/2015 1:35:47 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean fuck the abortion that is the new Big East but calling it a non-power Bball conference is borderline retarded.." |
The Big East is not a power conference anymore. They play I-AA football and over the past decade have lost West Virginia, Syracuse, UConn, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Miami, and Pitt. Then they added some teams from some non-power conferences for basketball.3/30/2015 8:34:14 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
Found it.
Where are we at on this. Can someone update 1/5/2016 12:47:32 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Utah won a national title in football. 1/5/2016 1:06:10 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
NC State DePaul South Carolina South Florida 1/5/2016 1:09:21 PM |