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NyM410
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Ok no official. No stars. Just a thread.

#1 overall: Louisville
#2: UNC
#3: Pittsburgh
#4/5: Memphis/UConn
#6 second: Duke

There are your top six overall teams. I think UConn probably deserves the fourth #1 given their entire body of work and who they beat/lost to, but Memphis gets a lot of dome from people for playing in such an utterly atrocious conference.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM. Reason : x]

3/15/2009 2:04:21 PM

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i hope UCONN is the #2 seed in UNC's bracket

3/15/2009 2:05:49 PM

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Fuck Memphis

3/15/2009 2:07:57 PM

NyM410
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"i hope UCONN is the #2 seed in UNC's bracket"


That's pretty much impossible if they use the S-curve.

3/15/2009 2:09:21 PM

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"Ok no official. No stars. Just a thread."


good luck

3/15/2009 2:10:36 PM

jordanfromnj
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How does Louisville get the top overall seed, because they played the easiest schedule in the big east or because they beat a worn out Syracuse team.

3/15/2009 2:11:44 PM

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those poor fucking selection squad bastards

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"Though the brackets only feature the seed numbers 1-16 in each region, the committee assembles an S-curve of teams seeded from 1-64. In theory, the teams 1-4 on the seed list will all be #1 seeds (the #1 "seed line"), 5-8 will be #2 seeds (the #2 seed line), and so on; however, bracketing rules often lead to some deviation from this. The S-curve is most important for keeping each region balanced; ideally, each region will be equally strong. For example, the committee will try to ensure that the number 1 team on the seed list, the national #1 seed, will be in the same region as the weakest #2 seed. The committee tries to ensure that the top four seeds in each region are comparable to the top four teams in every other region. For example, if one region has the best #1 seed (#1 overall), the weakest #2 seed (#8 overall), the best #3 seed (#9 overall), and the weakest #4 seed (#16 overall), its seeds add up to 34, the ideal number. But if a region has the best team for every given seed, its seeds would add up to 28, and a region with the weakest team in every seed would add up to 40, making the two regions very unbalanced. It is extremely unusual that an at large bid can be lower than a #12 seed, but it has occurred, most recently with Bradley and Air Force being 13 seeds in the 2006 Tournament. While the seeds are almost never perfectly balanced throughout the four regions, the committee strives to ensure that they differ from each other by only a few points. The process is identical for the women's tournament, with the exception that seeding occurs to 64."


TOO MUCH COUNTING

3/15/2009 2:12:15 PM

NyM410
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If there is a God that MSU win just put Boston College OUT.

3/15/2009 3:22:26 PM

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Memphis is not worthy of a #1 seed.

Oklahoma, Duke, and UConn are all better cases.

3/15/2009 3:25:38 PM

NyM410
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I'd also like to say that Patty Mills and SMC should absolutely be in the field...

3/15/2009 3:41:40 PM

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It'll be hilarious if ESPN bracketology holds true and Radford becomes the first 16 seed to knock of a 1 seed (UNC).

3/15/2009 4:26:22 PM

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ready for this show to get started

3/15/2009 5:52:20 PM

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love this time of year

3/15/2009 5:55:44 PM

dweedle
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its gonna be weird for me because i will be at the phoenix airport on thursday night...usually i have been planted in front of my own TV the first weekend

3/15/2009 5:57:03 PM

NyM410
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And away we go...

V that was a fairly obvious choice...

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM. Reason : x]

3/15/2009 6:00:38 PM

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REALLY?!? Louisville is the #1 overall!?! ooook.

3/15/2009 6:01:17 PM

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Louisville?? wow

3/15/2009 6:01:23 PM

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Didn't pitt lose every time they were faced with a big challenge down the stretch?

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3/15/2009 6:02:40 PM

NyM410
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They got it right!!

plz Duke as our #2!

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM. Reason : x]

3/15/2009 6:02:59 PM

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Pitt is #2 overall, then UNC #3 and UConn #4. slurp slurp Big East

3/15/2009 6:03:11 PM

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now we get to hear about memphis disrespect until they lose in the elite eight

3/15/2009 6:05:12 PM

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im surprised that people are surprised that Louisville is the overall #1

im glad Memphis isn't a #1 but I'm surprised UConn got it over them

3/15/2009 6:05:26 PM

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I don't see how they went with Pitt over UNC

3/15/2009 6:05:32 PM

NyM410
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Pitt had more top quality wins than did UNC.

They also lost the same amount of losses.

3/15/2009 6:06:11 PM

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yes yes motherfuckers

3/15/2009 6:07:03 PM

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"I don't see how they went with Pitt over UNC

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how??

^^ yes.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM. Reason : ^]

3/15/2009 6:07:48 PM

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i guess it's tough to pick seeds (and fill out brackets) this year b/c every team has obvious flaws. seems like this is going to be a total crapshoot bracket.

3/15/2009 6:07:49 PM

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Pitt got manhandled in the opening game of their conference tourney

3/15/2009 6:07:51 PM

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"I don't see how they went with Pitt over UNC"


Pitt was behind UNC before the conference tourneys and then jumped us after they lost in the quarters. They moved ahead of UNC only because of questions about Lawson's toe.

Also, I bet Duke is #2 in the East with Pitt.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:24 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2009 6:09:28 PM

NyM410
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So what?

They don't look at one game, they look at all the games. Pitt has a better overall resume.

3/15/2009 6:09:38 PM

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hahaha, fuck Memphis

3/15/2009 6:09:59 PM

TreeTwista10
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pitt played a tougher schedule in a better conference

3/15/2009 6:10:21 PM

Dammit100
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oh good... my boys get to be part of a famed 8/9 game; then get to be worked be UL. fuck.

3/15/2009 6:11:06 PM

stowaway
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Fuck Arizona

3/15/2009 6:11:11 PM

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Arizona as a 12... just sounds weird

Wake is a tough 4

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM. Reason : d]

3/15/2009 6:11:16 PM

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'zona? WTF?

3/15/2009 6:11:19 PM

NyM410
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Arizona?

Wow...

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM. Reason : louisville gets a dream bracket...]

3/15/2009 6:11:29 PM

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uh oh....well at least Creighton/St. Mary's/Penn St et. al. don't have to watch the rest of the show

3/15/2009 6:12:07 PM

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I hate that conf. champs have to play in the play-in game.

3/15/2009 6:12:32 PM

Dammit100
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i'm sure Arizona's consecutive tourney streak has NOOOOTHING to do with them getting in.

3/15/2009 6:12:55 PM

khcadwal
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wahooo n dakota state

3/15/2009 6:13:16 PM

goalielax
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i'm sorry, but there is just no fucking way zona deserves this bid

3/15/2009 6:15:04 PM

dweedle
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how bout let's see who ends up left out before rawring all over the place

3/15/2009 6:15:55 PM

NyM410
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I like how Louisville gets a road game in the second round if tOSU wins...

** I really hope my hometown team of Saint Mary's gets in, but its unlikely at this point...

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:16 PM. Reason : x]

3/15/2009 6:15:56 PM

NyM410
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UTC first 16 seed ever to win!

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:18 PM. Reason : nice easy path to the Elite 8 for UConn should they play well...]

3/15/2009 6:17:49 PM

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Marquette's losing to USU. mark it down

3/15/2009 6:21:05 PM

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haha, they need to make a new rule that only allows teams lower than a 14 seed get a camera on them during the selection show

3/15/2009 6:21:11 PM

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^^I agree, no James hurts this team.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:22 PM. Reason : beat me to it]

3/15/2009 6:21:17 PM

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Maryland a 10??

Weren't they a 12 the year they won the acc tourney to get in?

3/15/2009 6:21:36 PM

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UNC #1 and Duke #2 in the same region?

3/15/2009 6:22:15 PM

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