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wolfpackgrrr
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Chick I know has an abusive boyfriend she's been with for 6 years now. I don't get that sort of thing at all.

3/24/2009 12:35:59 AM

ambrosia1231
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I vaguely remember a thread aobut her.

As to the why: lots of reasons. With maybe one or two roots among them all.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/24/2009 12:36:21 AM

wawebste
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tough love

3/24/2009 12:36:32 AM

BigHitSunday
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cuz he beats up the guts real good

3/24/2009 12:37:37 AM

JeffreyBSG
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because they're ugly, maybe, and prefer beaten and dating to unbeaten and single

3/24/2009 12:38:31 AM

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cause women have horrible taste in men

3/24/2009 12:38:55 AM

sawahash
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Cause she knows she did wrong and deserved that jazz throw through the window.

3/24/2009 12:38:58 AM

Amsterdam718
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you have to beat chicks early in the relationship. i kid i kid.

3/24/2009 12:39:20 AM

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One phrase: penile cervical stimulation.

Biggest thing I can think of is LOW SELF ESTEEM. They don't think they can find someone better. They are afraid of being alone. Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

3/24/2009 12:39:37 AM

wolfpackgrrr
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Yeah, she seems like the type to have really low self-esteem.

One thing I think is kind of sad/funny is not only does he knock her around, he forces her to eat a vegetarian diet

3/24/2009 12:41:29 AM

LunaK
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^^ i'll agree with the second part of that

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 12:42 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2009 12:42:00 AM

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come on...self esteem is the obviously stereotypical answer

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 12:43 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2009 12:42:49 AM

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Because for them they probably are convinced that they are in love, and they deserve it. Also the unknown of breaking up and being alone might seem scarier than staying with someone you know.

3/24/2009 12:42:58 AM

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probably because they're all stupid whores

and no offense to the ladies who aren't stupid whores who don't like to get their faces bashed in by some doucheass

3/24/2009 12:43:41 AM

aph319
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because nice guys finish last

3/24/2009 1:32:20 AM

ThePeter
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"Biggest thing I can think of is LOW SELF ESTEEM. They don't think they can find someone better. "


One of my friends is this. She basically can't stand her long distance relationship but doesn't believe she'll find anyone better, plus she hates her body image when she absolutely doesn't need to.

3/24/2009 1:36:59 AM

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3/24/2009 1:40:40 AM

BigHitSunday
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this thread needs a punchline

3/24/2009 1:46:31 AM

aph319
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buh dum psh

3/24/2009 1:48:37 AM

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Fuck you relative URIs

3/24/2009 1:54:38 AM

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3/24/2009 1:54:40 AM

Wolfood98
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Guys hit girls b/c their big pussies themselves who would not dare raise their hand to another man, so they take out their mental and penile inadequacies on their so called love interest.


Yeah-aka fucking douche bags who played 'Magic' while they were in middle school and now that they're grownups they take out their inferiority on women who think they deserve it....its sad really....


God forbid a dude ever hit my daughter and I find out about it, believe me their punk ass wont have to worry about me calling the cops...nah..that's a situation where the law is taken in ones own hands.

3/24/2009 2:07:28 AM

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yall need to read the hip hop generation to truly understand this

3/24/2009 2:12:45 AM

aph319
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"Guys hit girls b/c their big pussies"

3/24/2009 2:36:43 AM

aph319
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"douche bags who played 'Magic' while they were in middle school"


I can bet you a shit ton of money you have this wrong. Nerds who played magic in middle school (aka me ) are about a billion times less likely to hit someone than a jock with aggressive behavior.

LEAVE US CCG PLAYERS ALONE

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 2:44 AM. Reason : dizzouble post]

3/24/2009 2:41:37 AM

GrumpyGOP
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OK, here's the answer as simplest as I can give it:

Basic mammal biology tends towards more aggressive males. Yeah, there are exceptions with certain species, but the trend holds overall.

Aggressive males can fend off competition -- for females, for food, for territory, whatever.

Females whose reproductive priorities are more simplistic will tend towards that sort of behavior. A man who will hit a woman is, in the unconscious evolutionary theory, more likely to hit threatening people.

When you're not in reproductive mode, you realize that these males are what we who are in intelligence mode call "douchebags." They are to primitive to function properly in civilized life, and either their behavior should be destroyed, or they should be. Frankly, I couldn't give two shits how that works out, but that's just me.

Your friend is falling into a primitive pattern. Most likely they could, with the appropriate information, be rescued from that ancient mode of thought. Unfortunately, it's unlikely that the superior mode of thinking can be presented to them in a manner that they can receive and truly understand.

3/24/2009 2:50:26 AM

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"why do women stay with men who beat them?"
#1 answer:
cause [some] women have horrible taste in men; aka because nice guys finish last.
cause [some] women have horrible taste in men; aka because nice guys finish last.
cause [some] women have horrible taste in men; aka because nice guys finish last.
cause [some] women have horrible taste in men; aka because nice guys finish last.
Or as GrumpyGOP put it: "Females whose reproductive priorities are more simplistic will tend towards that sort of behavior. A man who will hit a woman is, in the unconscious evolutionary theory, more likely to hit threatening people." Although, while evolutionary human nature doesn't excuse this behavior (not that he said it did,) it at least makes it seem forgivable or not entirely the fault of the men and women engaging in it. I reject that -- we have evolved, and it's time we stop using the distant past to justify harms in the present. I know it sounds harsh and wrong, but in general, women in abusive relationships deserve what they get, for not leaving the relationship. We don't excuse men from their violent acts because it's a subconscious remnant of their evolution, so why excuse women for voluntarily staying around the violence?. Reverting to unconscious evolutionary habits is no excuse, for both men and women. Besides, if the reason these women tolerate the beating is because they value having a man who can and will beat people up, (presumably other men she doesn't like,) then what the fuck is that shit??!?! That's no defense – that's not an excuse! That's like having a dog just so it can fight. Non-consensual fighting is 100% wrong. Period. Women who want to be with, (and go on to have children with,) violent macho douchebag losers ARE THE REASON WE STILL HAVE SO MANY GODDAMN VIOLENT MACHO DOUCHEBAG LOSERS.

Tolerance of or consent to patriarchy is the same as support for and advocacy of patriarchy.

Attention women: Only marry, date and/or fuck men with absolutely no (non-consensual or non-legitimate-self-defense,) physical violence in their past. Problem solved.

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"They are afraid of being alone."
I really hope it's not that. And even if this does play a small role, it's likely because many of these women have already decided to forever exclude non-violent "nice guys" as potential mates. They like to sleep with fire, but then complain when they get burned.

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"Because for them they probably are convinced that they are in love, and they deserve it."
Like GrumpyGOP pointed out, these types of women do tend to actually fall in "love" with violent macho douchebags, and this is clearly the problem. However, I'm not sure that these women consciously think that they deserve the abuse, but rather they may think that such abuse "proves" that their man is "devoted" to them. It's almost like a form of mental illness -- these women need help -- it is NOT ok to fall in love with an abusive macho douche. Ladies: You will not change him into a better man. He is a violent criminal. Leave him. Call the cops. Don't look back.

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"Guys hit girls b/c their big pussies themselves who would not dare raise their hand to another man, so they take out their mental and penile inadequacies on their so called love interest."
I'm sure this happens as well. This is really just the same situation as I've already described, with the exception that the men aren't really macho fighters, but only pretending to be.

Wolfood98:
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"Yeah-aka fucking douche bags who played 'Magic' while they were in middle school and now that they're grownups they take out their inferiority on women who think they deserve it....its sad really...."
aph319:
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"I can bet you a shit ton of money you have this wrong. Nerds who played magic in middle school (aka me ) are about a billion times less likely to hit someone than a jock with aggressive behavior."
I agree 100000000000000000%. Why the fuck did you identify the EXACT OPPOSITE group from which macho wife-beating douches come? Seriously. Explain yourself. Plus, you called them douchebags..... Do you even know what a douchebag is??? A nerd is not a douchebag. Not even fucking close. What the fuck are you thinking?

Wolfood98:
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"God forbid a dude ever hit my daughter and I find out about it, believe me their punk ass wont have to worry about me calling the cops...nah..that's a situation where the law is taken in ones own hands."
SO TUFF!
You are stupid and wrong. Beating up someone who beat up your daughter makes you NO BETTER THAN THEM. PERIOD. PERIOD. MOTHERFUCKING PERIOD. VIOLENCE IS NOT THE FUCKING ANSWER, YOU CHEST-BEATING SHIT-STAIN.

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"Most likely they could, with the appropriate information, be rescued from that ancient mode of thought. Unfortunately, it's unlikely that the superior mode of thinking can be presented to them in a manner that they can receive and truly understand."
Sad, but true.

3/24/2009 7:35:12 AM

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they always come back.

3/24/2009 7:50:13 AM

mcfluffle
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"he beats me cause he loves me"

3/24/2009 7:51:06 AM

LRlilDaddy
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"cuz he beats up the guts real good"


i like

3/24/2009 7:59:17 AM

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THE HIGH ALMIGHTY KNIGHT WILLY NILLY HATH COMETH FORTH TO BESTOW THY HOLY WORD UPON US.

3/24/2009 7:59:33 AM

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"cuz he beats up the guts real good"


^hahahahaha, but Willy knows all and must address us all!

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 8:01 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2009 8:00:35 AM

Willy Nilly
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lol

3/24/2009 8:06:40 AM

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3/24/2009 9:01:05 AM

slaptit
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Why does she stay with an abusive boyfriend???

....bitch be havin' Daddy Issues

someone argue with me

3/24/2009 9:07:14 AM

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""Yeah-aka fucking douche bags who played 'Magic' while they were in middle school and now that they're grownups they take out their inferiority on women who think they deserve it....its sad really....""


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"A nerd is not a douchebag. Not even fucking close. What the fuck are you thinking?"


If you are going to sling around insults, at least try to understand the basic definitions. Douchebags are the guys that most women, like you, go for when they are in college. Mainly because they dress preppy, say and do cliche things, and have no real identity, not unlike their significant others. They are walking and talking mutating commericalized robots with no spine or self-respect. Sound familiar? Women are vain creatures, and men that join them in their voyage of vanity lack dignity and change their self-image with the changing of the wind, and as a result become your next boyfriend.

Women stay with men who beat them in order to maintain the social status they have gained from the relationship. They justify abuse by calling in love, which is really a veil for their own self-esteem issues that launched them into a false partnership from the start. It's all very complex, but it boils down to women would leave these types of relationships if they focused more on the individual and less on public perception. Women cling to status, vanity, image, and perception. If they did not, they would be much happier people.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM. Reason : -]

3/24/2009 9:27:40 AM

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Women are supposed to be tough human beings. I mean, they push other human beings out of their vaginas. But once you punch one in the face... then it's run home to mommy.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 9:36 AM. Reason : just kidding of course. hitting girls is lame]

3/24/2009 9:35:45 AM

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whos the chica?

3/24/2009 9:53:25 AM

Willy Nilly
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^^^
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"Douchebags are the guys that most women, like you, go for when they are in college."
Um... Who are you talking to?

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM. Reason : ]

3/24/2009 9:54:11 AM

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one/both of them have Herpes

3/24/2009 10:14:08 AM

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willy nilly with the huge post no one reads

3/24/2009 10:16:58 AM

Stimwalt
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Not you willy, wolfpackgrrr.

3/24/2009 10:52:23 AM

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Wolfood98:
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"God forbid a dude ever hit my daughter and I find out about it, believe me their punk ass wont have to worry about me calling the cops...nah..that's a situation where the law is taken in ones own hands."


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"You are stupid and wrong. Beating up someone who beat up your daughter makes you NO BETTER THAN THEM. PERIOD. PERIOD. MOTHERFUCKING PERIOD. VIOLENCE IS NOT THE FUCKING ANSWER, YOU CHEST-BEATING SHIT-STAIN."


I think beating up someone who hits your daughter is the proper solution, but let's face it, when you're 50-60 years old you're not going to be beating up shit unless the person is equally old or crippled somehow.

That's why you have sons and nephews.

3/24/2009 12:08:21 PM

aph319
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Alabama Man! He's quick, he's strong, he's active!

3/24/2009 12:46:21 PM

poopface
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most of the time women stay with men that are abusive because they have beer guts the size of their man's

3/24/2009 12:50:46 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20Oz9Yr_So

(please to embed)

3/24/2009 12:52:18 PM

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There are a lot of reasons. Just general low self-esteem. Depression, mental illness, etc... Lack of means. Genuine and legitimate fear for their life. Pressure from family, etc...to stay. Love.

Physical abuse is really bad because it poses an immediate threat to your well-being, but emotional and verbal abuse shouldn't be overlooked. They all tend to go hand-in-hand, except in the case of abusive women who tend to rely largely on the emotional and verbal abuse. I think it's hilarious that when men finally snap and hit their abusive women, the men get labelled as the abusers.

I have violent outbursts, but I've gotten really good at hitting things, not people. The only problem is these urges only come along like once every few years so I don't really get a chance to practice handling them properly (I hit too many things and scare people).

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2009 1:06:40 PM

BigHitSunday
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^ i beat the hell outta her, but she loved to suck dat dick

3/24/2009 1:07:24 PM

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Most likely the person is embarrassed to admit they've been beat to anyone, so they just suck it up and stay, or they feel so strongly about being alone that they refuse to leave out of fear of being lonely.

3/24/2009 1:13:19 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^It's true!!!

^Wrong! It's all about dat dick!

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 1:14 PM. Reason : AHA]

3/24/2009 1:13:41 PM

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