137K, 2 owner, auto. Dude says the mechanical shit on it are is fine. Was backed into in a parking lot a few years ago.

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Pic is in my gallery since i can never get things to show up in here.

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4/6/2009 10:53:54 AM

$1000 if it's na.
$1700 if it's turbo.

4/6/2009 11:02:50 AM

It's an auto, ~150hp? and 137k miles? Burgendy? I'd be looking at something else (ie: 924). But that's just me. If, and that's a big if, I had to get it, I probably would offer no more than $1,500. I only know about Mk IV supras, so my imput is probably irrelavant. Do you need an automatic?

^ meh, what he said. $1k.



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4/6/2009 11:05:06 AM

mechanical shit on it are is fine.

4/6/2009 11:10:00 AM

i would not buy it unless you hear it on a 100% cold start. Those motors are notorious for rod knock, and the early stages are only detectable under a cold start.

4/6/2009 11:11:26 AM

1200 if its na
1000 if its turbo.

those cars are so fragile

4/6/2009 11:12:05 AM

7M-GE...shit on that. Rod city, here we come. Not bad engines, but they really do need some doctoring in the crank area if you're gonna even think about spinning them hard.

Not bad cars, but as far as Toyotas go, they're relative hunks of shit.

2JZ-GE is a MUCH better engine.

4/6/2009 11:12:15 AM

i'm gonna go for $800. he said it runs strong, but he needs to get rid of it. his asking was a few hundred above 1500, but said he could probably come down considerably.

my preference isn't an auto, but i think i could get it cheap. it is a nontubo, nontarga...both things that i would love.

i thought the 7M was a good engine?

i'm also worried about the shitty economy. i haven't owned a car in a year and a half, and personally, i think i could almost do without. i wonder about the car's ability to resale if i needed to the cash out of it. i figure since it's a supra, it would go fairly easy, and i could always get out what i had in it.



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4/6/2009 11:32:50 AM

7M is a good engine, but is not known for bearing reliability, especially if subjected to high rpms on a regular basis. I really need to consult an oiling system diagram and look at the crank up close to be able to give an in-depth discussion on reasons why...

^Not so on resale. 800 isn't a steal by any means if the car's in less than good condition. You MIGHT get what you put into it, but have you considered that the current seller is willing to come down considerably?

If you've got an extra 800 bux with which to wipe your ass (and a little moneys for any old car repairs you undoubtedly encounter)...then go for it. Otherwise, go buy a RWD Corolla GTS

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4/6/2009 11:35:55 AM

well...it's an auto. if it was a manual, i would get into the high rpms. i don't even know what kind of mileage i'm gonna be puttin on the thing.

4/6/2009 11:37:58 AM

i always thought the 7M was a nice looking setup, and the 2J wasn't much different, just a larger displacement.

4/6/2009 11:39:14 AM

Buying a high mileage used auto is a crapshoot, even if it's an Aisin AW-4.

4/6/2009 11:39:51 AM

Quote :

"i always thought the 7M was a nice looking setup, and the 2J wasn't much different, just a larger displacement."

Every 7M failure I've seen has been bottom end bearing failure, or unintended block ventillation as a result of a snapped rod as a result of bottom end bearing failure.

2J is a much improved engine, and is the same displacement as the 7M.

4/6/2009 11:42:45 AM

what if it's an awesome roll?

i lowball the hell out of people when i'm bartering. i probably shouldn't be spending the money as i don't work, but i'm tired of walking. and it's a SUPRA. I've always wanted one.

and the dude's got a lollipop on it. i want to steal the damn thing for $700.

4/6/2009 11:45:33 AM

is the 7M the same as the 1JZ?

4/6/2009 11:46:29 AM

well if the guy is half way smart and is askin just over 1500 for it, hes not going a penny under 1500.

i hate, absolutely hate people that say oh ill just low ball them, thinking they know what they are doing, and over them just something stupid as shit as an offer, just like any little kid would do.

if this guy is dumb then he might do it,

if he knows what it is and needs the money he might take 1200

good luck

also look out for it pushing a headgasket

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4/6/2009 11:50:40 AM

Ask arghx about truly stealing one.

A car that old is going to be not necessarily a money pit, but will not be the cheapest thing to maintain. Brake parts alone are not very cheap.

No...all 7M engines are 3.0L, and have an 83mm bore x 91mm stroke.

the 1JZ is either 2.0L or 2.5L, I can't remember. I know you can get the JDM 1JZ-GTE in 2.0 form.
Its internals spec at 86mm bore x something like 71 or 72mm stroke.

2JZ has 86mm bore, 86mm stroke. Not as much inertial mass as the 7M-GE.

4/6/2009 11:52:42 AM

added an engine pic.

well the car's an 88, is cosmetically in need of a lil' TLC, and he needs the money.

4/6/2009 11:54:04 AM

i c.

and i DO want to avoid being childish about my offer. this is the first car i've ever bought for myself.

4/6/2009 11:55:39 AM

If I had something listed for $1800 and you offered me $700 I'd just laugh at you.

4/6/2009 11:58:21 AM

I hate to sound like a complete prick...but I'm going to go ahead and offer my advice at the expense of sounding like a complete prick.

Go buy something much more reliable and simple...and cheaper to maintain. It won't be as sexy, but in my opinion, '88 Supra in shitty cosmetic condition spells one thing to me: dumbass who bought a piece of shit thinking it's sooo cool, and not knowing that he/she bought nothing more than a turd that the general public thinks is a turd because it looks like a turd and car afficionados think that the car is a turd because it's just an old, has-been late '80s to early '90s boat anchor of a sports car that has most likely not been taken care of like it should be and therefore falls into the "automotive turd" category.

4/6/2009 12:03:02 PM

^you read my mind. I'll add to that that whenever I see an mk3 supra turbo, I think "dude didnt have enough $$ for an MK4"

it is a rare occurrence when I see an mk3 supra and think "hey, that is bad ass"

because 99% of them look like the one pictured in the OP

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4/6/2009 12:04:50 PM

honestly i dont know how much you have to spend, but get a mustang or a camaro. they have everything you are looking for but easier to work on if it breaks down,

4/6/2009 12:07:22 PM

^^^haha.

corollas don't sit like ricers.

gud advice. but in my opinion, one cheap piece of shit is as good as another. that is says honda, toyota, or nissan is all that matters.

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4/6/2009 12:08:23 PM

You've obviously not ever owned anything with Toyota's 3E(E) engine.

4/6/2009 12:09:49 PM

^^^i would think an i6 waaay easier to deal with than v8

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4/6/2009 12:10:03 PM

i owned a 93 4runner that blew the head gasket three times before it finally went under. it was a bad year. and that shit cost me 900 each time around.

but if the car makes it 137K without anything more than a tuneup, it's a good motor.

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4/6/2009 12:11:24 PM

I owned a nonturbo Mark III, manual transmission. The best things about that car were the uber-adjustable driver seat, and how fun it was to get the back end out. It's very controllable when the rear tires break loose partly because it's such a heavy pig.

Eventually I had rod knock and sold it to Carmax for $250.

The fuel economy is shitty. It got about 17mpg, as good as my damn rotary engine. The 1JZ is a far superior motor but was never available in the US market, and swaps are difficult because of model year wiring differences and insufficiently available wiring diagrams.

4/6/2009 12:14:35 PM

yeah. i don't think u can find a better car to swap out on. i like the mkiii bodystyle a lil' more than the iv. but with a 2jz and a 6 sp. ---that would be nice.

4/6/2009 12:16:52 PM

Quote :

"^^^i would think an i6 waaay easier to deal with than v8 "

all the wires and vaccum lines, and let alone the cost of retarded sensors you will need to replace, is mind boggling on those cars, there is twice as much shit to go wrong with an I6 over any v8.

the dependablity(sp) is much greater on the v8 as well, unless you are talking jeep I6 of course ,but we arent

4/6/2009 12:19:43 PM

If you want a Supra, go find a 1st gen.

4/6/2009 6:47:38 PM

^ are you talking bout the celica supras? i like those cars with loovers on them. dont know why

4/6/2009 8:08:05 PM

i'll sell you my 3000gt vr4. far superior to the poopra. pm me if you're interested.

4/6/2009 8:17:54 PM

http://tinyurl.com/ct44ae

4/6/2009 8:20:46 PM

^^thats an even bigger nightmare to work on

4/6/2009 11:19:20 PM

alright, dude said it needed a $200 power steering hose, and a $400 oil something hose. i believe him that the engine and trans are solid, but shit, man. that's expensive.

4/7/2009 11:21:57 AM

^^^^you like loovers cause u used to watch inspector gadget.

4/7/2009 11:24:02 AM

haha i thought there was a connection there

you might can find someone on
supraforums.com

getting rid of those hoses cause they are making there cars race cars . i said it wouldnt be cheap

4/7/2009 11:29:16 AM

mitsubishi is shit in my opinion.

with the exception of those new lancers. those things look THE SHIT.

4/7/2009 11:29:39 AM

DSMs are great if you just drive them and dont drive em like race cars, ive seen those cars go 150k without any problems.

4/7/2009 11:50:20 AM

Quote :

"alright, dude said it needed a $200 power steering hose, and a $400 oil something hose. i believe him that the engine and trans are solid, but shit, man. that's expensive. "

junkyard?


either way, pass on that hunk of shit.

4/7/2009 11:50:49 AM

OP, Not to sound like a prick, but why believe him? What incentive/security is he offering that he is telling the truth? I mean, this car is old. It could have some history that he isn't telling that you might not find out until it's too late. Does he have up to date records/history on the car? Receipts? Anything? Don't just taking his "word" just because you want to believe him, that's naive. He's got nothing to lose if he lies and says it's in "great shape" engine/transmission wise.


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4/7/2009 12:00:37 PM

Not to mention that most people don't know there is a problem until they're left stranded on the side of the road. "Runs great" means different things to different people.

4/7/2009 12:39:45 PM

he said a mechanic looked at it. the guy sounded pretty damn square to me, and was pretty forthcoming about the car's problems. but i might be passing it on cause i don't want to deal with the extra cost of fixing it, esp. since it's not a targa or a 5 spd. OR a turbo. i didn't realize that a turbo would boost the hp by 30 - 40 mph.

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4/7/2009 1:03:45 PM

Quote :

"boost the hp by 30 - 40 mph"

o rly

4/7/2009 1:11:45 PM

soo.. how much of a difference did you think a turbo could make?

i mean.. my turbo can more than triple my hp compared to the non-turbo engine that's why people are crazy over them.

4/7/2009 3:22:46 PM

Quote :

"i owned a 93 4runner that blew the head gasket three times before it finally went under. it was a bad year. and that shit cost me 900 each time around."

you realize toyota was fixing those for free, right..?

4/8/2009 2:08:22 AM

$5

4/8/2009 12:26:51 PM

foot long

4/8/2009 12:34:03 PM

user name

4/8/2009 12:41:26 PM