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gunzz
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just to get punched in the face by the bloody nub

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/sword-attacker-sliced-off-victims-left-hand-1686405.html

A MAN who had just had his hand severed with a samurai sword punched his attacker in the face with the stump, a court heard yesterday.

Charles Russell (28), of Whitechapel Road, Dublin 15 was remanded in custody pending sentence after pleading guilty to intentionally or recklessly causing Peter Rogers serious harm at The Deputy Mayor Pub, Meekstown on January 13, 2008.

His 31 previous convictions included road traffic and criminal damage offences.

Detective Garda Tony Gleeson told Dublin Circuit Criminal Court that Russell severed Mr Roger's hand at the wrist with his first swing of the sword and his hand fell to the ground.

He said that the victim did not notice that he had lost his hand, which, he said, must have been due to shock.

Mr Rogers (28) continued to struggle with Russell and at one stage punched the accused in the face with the stump of his arm.

Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers will never have full use of his left hand again.

He had suffered from depression, his relationship had since broken down, and he would never work in carpentry again, or play golf and football, which he had done before the assault.

Det Gda Gleeson said that both Russell and his co-accused had left the pub earlier that day and returned with the sword and a hammer before they both assaulted Mr Rogers.

Judge Katherine Delahunt said it was "an assault of a most serious nature" before she adjourned sentencing to later this week.

Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers had been in the pub with a number of friends that day when he heard someone shout, "there's the c**t" before he was struck from behind with a hammer. This blow came from Russell's co-accused and friend who was then wrestled away by bar staff. He has denied the charges and is due for trial later this year.

Russell then swung a samurai sword at Mr Rogers and continued to strike at him four or five times before staff dragged him away. He was restrained by the bar manager but managed to escape and fled the scene.

Det Gda Gleeson said that one customer picked up Mr Rogers' hand and placed it in ice in a black bag. The victim was taken to the Mater hospital where he underwent emergency surgery to re-attach his hand.

Russell was arrested the following March after gardai identified him from CCTV footage. He exercised his right to silence in the subsequent interview.

"He gave no convincing reason for the motivation behind the attack," Det Gda Gleeson said.

Insulting

Det Gda Gleeson agreed with defence counsel, that Russell's co-accused claimed that Mr Rogers had said something insulting to his girlfriend's mother which led to the attack.

He accepted that while Russell did not say anything in interview he consented to his blood being taken for DNA analysis and to standing in an identification parade.

Witness acknowledged that a medical report said that Mr Rogers had made some progress, although it was slow, but added that doctors had concluded that it is unlikely that the victim will ever make a full recovery.

Det Gda Gleeson agreed in re-examination that there was no evidence to support Russell's co-accused's version of events.

Russell's defence counsel said his client had developed a cocaine problem and had been taking drugs and drinking for four days prior to the assault.

He said that his friend had approached him and told him that Mr Rogers had insulted the woman but accepted that "none of this goes to excuse what happened" and said his client's reaction was not "even conceivably proportionate".

4/6/2009 5:17:42 PM

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4/6/2009 5:22:27 PM

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tl;dr

I'm Big Business and i approved this message.

[Edited on April 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM. Reason : this thread is useless without pics]

4/6/2009 5:23:17 PM

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4/6/2009 5:23:32 PM

gunzz
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punch out
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4/6/2009 5:25:55 PM

fleetwud
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Glass Joe #s?

4/6/2009 5:26:48 PM

TreeTwista10
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i'll bet after dude cut off the guy's hand he was like U MAD?

4/6/2009 5:32:26 PM

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After being told by the court that he was also going to be charged with assault for horrifically striking back at his attacker with his bloody stump, Mr. Roger's told the judge "You want to be next?" To which the judge replied, "court is now adjourned".

4/6/2009 5:32:50 PM

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"His 31 previous convictions included road traffic and criminal damage offences."


For fucks sake

4/6/2009 5:33:42 PM

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"He had suffered from depression, his relationship had since broken down, and he would never work in carpentry again, or play golf and football, which he had done before the assault."


Kind of a pussy

you could learn to do any of these with a modicum of profieciency with one hand

I'm assuming his football is soccer; would actually be easier with one hand, unless he was a goalie

less chance for a handball...unless they call a handball if he hit it with the stump, but that would just be mean

4/6/2009 5:36:47 PM

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assaulting someone with a samurai sword? really?

4/6/2009 5:58:15 PM

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ibt lol @ mr rogers

4/6/2009 7:46:40 PM

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^^ i saw an article on how england was having "problems" with samarai swords since they banned guns

4/6/2009 7:50:24 PM

gunzz
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they also have a knife task force now

4/7/2009 11:46:57 AM

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YOU'VE BEEN NUBBED UP SON!

4/7/2009 11:55:24 AM

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"he would never work in carpentry again, or play golf and football, which he had done before the assault."


I guess he must have been a goalie. otherwise this woudln't matter.

4/7/2009 11:58:11 AM

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Well, I'd say that by keeping up with the fight and punching the dude right in the face, the victim handled it quite well.

4/7/2009 12:02:54 PM

chocolatervh
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"lets give the fighters a hand for a beautiful match"

or atleast lets give him his back

4/7/2009 12:04:28 PM

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Well at least the guy might get to park in a handicapped spot from now on.

4/7/2009 12:05:59 PM

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lets just say his sign language training has been cut short

4/7/2009 12:11:08 PM

gunzz
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speaking of handicap
his golf game should get better

4/7/2009 12:13:11 PM

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So he was a carpenter right? Does that since he can't work at his job anymore, they are gonna be kinda shorthanded?

4/7/2009 12:13:37 PM

gunzz
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i wonder if this will hinder his game in getting digits

4/7/2009 12:15:24 PM

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4/7/2009 12:30:52 PM

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That's a really underhanded way of fighting.

4/7/2009 12:45:35 PM

chocolatervh
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there are a lot of backhanded comments going on in here

4/7/2009 1:22:51 PM

Wraith
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So I wonder how differently it would have ended up if the guy with the hammer wasn't there to lend a hand.

4/7/2009 2:00:31 PM

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punch out
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4/7/2009 2:04:02 PM

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Hope he doesn't have to take government handouts

4/7/2009 2:40:50 PM

gunzz
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""he would never work in carpentry again, or play golf and football, which he had done before the assault.""


he wasnt really a handyman anyways

4/7/2009 2:46:59 PM

chocolatervh
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most would have ran away and called the cops

he had a more hands on approach to his hands off situation.

4/7/2009 2:50:25 PM

Wraith
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Sounds like the reporters really had their hands full with this story.

4/7/2009 3:00:15 PM

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Maybe if he had handled the situation correctly

....damnit I cant think of a good one

4/7/2009 3:09:35 PM

chocolatervh
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keep the joke in the air supercalo..

this isn't the time for butterfingers

4/7/2009 3:10:58 PM

supercalo
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then his grasp on the following events would not have been so mishandled?

that took a while, sorry

4/7/2009 3:18:35 PM

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You gotta hand it to the guy... I mean hands down the biggest badass I've read about so far today. They should make the other guy wait on him hand and foot while he recovers, although independence is typically hand in hand with badassery.

[Edited on April 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM. Reason : e]

4/7/2009 3:19:18 PM

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Well there is no denying who committed this crime... he was caught red-handed.

4/7/2009 3:23:39 PM

supercalo
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Judging by the story, I sure wouldn't want to go fisticuffs with this guy either

4/7/2009 3:27:41 PM

Wraith
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Considering the situation at hand occurred in a pub, I'd say alcohol was probably involved. Violence and alcohol go hand-in-hand.

4/7/2009 3:30:01 PM

gunzz
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Quote :
"Judging by the story, I sure wouldn't want to go fisticuffs with this guy either"

winnar is y00

4/7/2009 3:37:22 PM

Wraith
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This thread is really starting to get out of hand.

4/7/2009 3:39:10 PM

supercalo
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^ srsly, this thread needs to get a grip

4/7/2009 3:42:40 PM

gunzz
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well you guys are posting hand over fist

4/7/2009 3:43:21 PM

Wraith
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This thread is going to hell in a handbasket.

4/7/2009 3:44:58 PM

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Bad Form Peter

4/7/2009 3:48:11 PM

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